Religion reduces deviance..and that is why the left hates religion.

[koshergrl]

“Religion, independent of social
class, reduces deviance.”

"For example, consider the latest research of David B. Larson, the medical research scientist who pioneered the development of research on public health outcomes (physical health, mental health, addictions) that led to new training programs at Harvard and three dozen other medical schools.

"With criminologist Byron Johnson, Larson has reviewed some 400 juvenile delinquency studies published between 1980 and 1997. They report that “the better the study design and measurement methodology, the greater the likelihood the research will produce statistically significant and beneficial results associated with ‘the faith factor.’”

"In other words, the more scientific the study, the more optimistic are its
findings about the extent to which “religion reduces deviance.”


And heaven knows, we can't have this:

"...a 1996 synopsis of faith factor research, Patrick Fagan of the Heritage Foundation summarized studies
suggesting that religion enhances family stability (the family that prays together is indeed more likely to stay together), improves health, reduces adolescent sexual activities and teenage pregnancies, cuts alcohol and drug abuse, and reinforces other measures of “social stability.”

http://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817998721_153.pdf

 

[Moonglow]

 

[NYcarbineer]

What was the 'deviancy' rate among devout Muslim families in America, compared to other religions?

 

[koshergrl]

No clue. You will note the OP uses the term "religion".

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, the more guilt propaganda the better...

 

[NYcarbineer]

No clue. You will note the OP uses the term "religion".

So Islam might very well be the best religion to reduce deviancy? Maybe Judaism comes in second. lol

 

[koshergrl]

Yes, I'm sure they were specifically referencing Islam in those studies. Cuz Muslims go to *church* and participate in *church* activities.

 

[Moonglow]

The Bible has many references to sex ed....It's not a prudish document...

 

[Freemason9]

“Religion, independent of social
class, reduces deviance.”

"For example, consider the latest research of David B. Larson, the medical research scientist who pioneered the development of research on public health outcomes (physical health, mental health, addictions) that led to new training programs at Harvard and three dozen other medical schools.

"With criminologist Byron Johnson, Larson has reviewed some 400 juvenile delinquency studies published between 1980 and 1997. They report that “the better the study design and measurement methodology, the greater the likelihood the research will produce statistically significant and beneficial results associated with ‘the faith factor.’”

"In other words, the more scientific the study, the more optimistic are its
findings about the extent to which “religion reduces deviance.”


And heaven knows, we can't have this:

"...a 1996 synopsis of faith factor research, Patrick Fagan of the Heritage Foundation summarized studies
suggesting that religion enhances family stability (the family that prays together is indeed more likely to stay together), improves health, reduces adolescent sexual activities and teenage pregnancies, cuts alcohol and drug abuse, and reinforces other measures of “social stability.”

"Better" does NOT equal "more scientific." The premise is flawed from the beginning.

 

[koshergrl]

Who said it did? Not me.

Meanwhile:

"The black church has a unique and uniquely powerful youth and community outreach tradition. The black church’s historic role in
providing education, social services, and a safe gathering place prefigured its historic role in the civil rights movement.

"There are eight major historically black Christian churches: African Methodist Episcopal, African Methodist Episcopal Zion, Christian Meth-
odist Episcopal, Church of God in Christ, National Baptist Convention of America, National Baptist Convention, USA, National Missionary Baptist Convention, and the Progressive National Baptist Convention. There are also scores of independent or quasi-independent black churches and at least nine certified religious training programs operated by accredited seminaries that are directed toward ministry in black churches and black faith communities. Together, the eight major black denominations alone encompass some 65,000 churches and about 20 million members."

I don't think we're talking about Islam here.

http://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817998721_153.pdf

 

[g5000]

Yes, I'm sure they were specifically referencing Islam in those studies. Cuz Muslims go to *church* and participate in *church* activities.

The do "pray together". Your OP says nothing about "church".

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The OP fails as a post hoc fallacy.

 

[g5000]

A new study in the academic journal Theoretical Criminology (hat tip to the Vancouver Sun) suggests that, far from causing offenders to repent of their sins, religious instruction might actually encourage crime. The authors surveyed 48 “hardcore street offenders” in and around Atlanta, in hopes of determining what effect, if any, religion has on their behavior. While the vast majority of those surveyed (45 out of 48 people) claimed to be religious, the authors found that the interviewees “seemed to go out of their way to reconcile their belief in God with their serious predatory offending. They frequently employed elaborate and creative rationalizations in the process and actively exploit religious doctrine to justify their crimes.”

Faith-based prison programs New study suggests religion may help criminals justify their crimes.

 

[koshergrl]

The source of the OP is a document called "Supporting Black Churches".

And CC doesn't even know what he just said there.

 

[koshergrl]

A new study in the academic journal Theoretical Criminology (hat tip to the Vancouver Sun) suggests that, far from causing offenders to repent of their sins, religious instruction might actually encourage crime. The authors surveyed 48 “hardcore street offenders” in and around Atlanta, in hopes of determining what effect, if any, religion has on their behavior. While the vast majority of those surveyed (45 out of 48 people) claimed to be religious, the authors found that the interviewees “seemed to go out of their way to reconcile their belief in God with their serious predatory offending. They frequently employed elaborate and creative rationalizations in the process and actively exploit religious doctrine to justify their crimes.”

Faith-based prison programs New study suggests religion may help criminals justify their crimes.

Slate's crime blog.

You funny.

 

[g5000]

It makes sense that if people have a reason to come together as a community at least once a week, they are going to feel more connected to the community, and thus act more responsibly as a member of that community.

 

[g5000]

A new study in the academic journal Theoretical Criminology (hat tip to the Vancouver Sun) suggests that, far from causing offenders to repent of their sins, religious instruction might actually encourage crime. The authors surveyed 48 “hardcore street offenders” in and around Atlanta, in hopes of determining what effect, if any, religion has on their behavior. While the vast majority of those surveyed (45 out of 48 people) claimed to be religious, the authors found that the interviewees “seemed to go out of their way to reconcile their belief in God with their serious predatory offending. They frequently employed elaborate and creative rationalizations in the process and actively exploit religious doctrine to justify their crimes.”

Faith-based prison programs New study suggests religion may help criminals justify their crimes.

Slate's crime blog.

You funny.

I think it is important to look at all angles of the issue.

You should also know I served as a volunteer in jails and prisons for over ten years.

 

[rdean]

Funny. I thought religion was what deviants hid behind.

 

[koshergrl]

A new study in the academic journal Theoretical Criminology (hat tip to the Vancouver Sun) suggests that, far from causing offenders to repent of their sins, religious instruction might actually encourage crime. The authors surveyed 48 “hardcore street offenders” in and around Atlanta, in hopes of determining what effect, if any, religion has on their behavior. While the vast majority of those surveyed (45 out of 48 people) claimed to be religious, the authors found that the interviewees “seemed to go out of their way to reconcile their belief in God with their serious predatory offending. They frequently employed elaborate and creative rationalizations in the process and actively exploit religious doctrine to justify their crimes.”

Faith-based prison programs New study suggests religion may help criminals justify their crimes.

Slate's crime blog.

You funny.

I think it is important to look at all angles of the issue.

You should also know I served as a volunteer in jails and prisons for over ten years.

Why should I know that? I worked in juvenile detention, in residential treatment, and in county jail for years as well. Also was program manager for group homes responsible for the supervision and oversight of predatory sex offenders.

The material I've read says that churches provide the greatest outreach to inner city neighborhoods, and are a huge resource in those communities.

 

[hazlnut]

Yeah, right...