Remember The Democrat Lie About 11 Million Illegals....

[PinktheFloyd88]

1. "Nearly 2 million people illegally cross border this year"

That's insane, wow.

NEW MEXICO (KRQE) – Almost two million people entered the U.S. illegally in the last year, ending on September 30. Border Patrol says people who are repeatedly crossing the border are skewing those numbers. They account for about 900,000 of those encounters. Border Patrol says the amount of crossings dipped slightly from August to September of this year.


Oh, okay nevermind. So really it's like 1 million.

 

[PoliticalChic]

LefTard Logic:
”I’m too scared and stupid to use common sense and connect the dots…until the census bureau ’confirms’ a number I’ll sit nicely on that 11 million figure because it’s warm and fuzzy for me….I won’t believe any other number, I’ll just play stupid.”

And we both know there will never be the required proof.

One reason:Once the Left is forced to admit that the bogus "11 million illegal aliens" live in this nation....
...with the real number over 50 million....then the number voting is easy to understand.

And, Democrats make it easy:
"The biggest misconception about the problem of non-citizen voting is that illegal aliens are "undocumented." That's nonsense. Some experts believe that up to 75% of illegals who work in America have fraudulent Social Security cards. Fake licenses, birth certificates, and green cards are incredibly common. The fake ID industry is worth more than $2 billion."
Report: As Many as 5.7 Million Non-Citizens Voted in 2008 Election

How many soc security numbers do you need?

The obvious answer is .....one.

Why would you need more than one.

Which leads to a serious question that follows this headline:

1. "Illegal immigrants cited in theft of 39 million Social Security "
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-se0 crets/illegal-immigrants-cited-in-theft-of-39-million-social-security-numbers





2. One of the many lies that the Democrats/Liberals spew about illegals is that there are only 11 million of 'em who have been allowed, enticed, accepted into this nation.

"... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.

Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?




3. There is a serious reason for the Democrat reliance on the illegal aliens.....they vote, and they vote Democrat.
Hillary Clinton aide Jennifer Palmieri inadvertently admitted same:

"A secret strategy memo from the Left’s most influential think tank warns that Democrats face electoral oblivion unless they immediately double-down on their support for the young illegal immigrants known as the DREAMers.

DREAMers are a “critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” according to the memo dated Jan. 8.

“If Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond,” the memo states. “In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.”
Democrats Must Embrace DREAMers or Face Doom, Says Secret Left-Wing Memo




4. No wonder Hussein Obama told illegals to go and vote in the 2016 election.















5. On several occasions I have provided evidence that there are somewhere between 50 and 80 million illegals currently living in the United States.



After all.....would 11 millions illegals need to steal 39 million social security numbers?


6.” Two dozen more charged in voter fraud probe, many non-citizen foreign nationals: North Carolina federal attorneys

The defendants hailed from 15 countries, including Honduras, France, Yemen, Iraq, Nigeria, and Canada. The first charges were filed in September 2019, and arrests have been as recent as this month.

"The charges include making false claims of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote, naturalization fraud, and fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents as it relates to the registration to vote, and false statements in immigration proceedings," the statement from the U.S. attorney's office for eastern North Carolina reads, adding that there are no charges of conspiracy.”

Two dozen more charged in voter fraud probe, many non-citizen foreign nationals: North Carolina federal attorneys



7.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "Nearly 2 million people illegally cross border this year"

That's insane, wow.

NEW MEXICO (KRQE) – Almost two million people entered the U.S. illegally in the last year, ending on September 30. Border Patrol says people who are repeatedly crossing the border are skewing those numbers. They account for about 900,000 of those encounters. Border Patrol says the amount of crossings dipped slightly from August to September of this year.


Oh, okay nevermind. So really it's like 1 million.

Insane is believing anything the Democrats say......after this:


There are sooooo very many lies on which the Left's politics and promises are built.
One can take his pick....that there is systemic racism, the election was fair, illegals don't vote, gun control is aimed at criminals, CRT isn't taught in government school, welfare stops starvation, the Democrat's flipped and the Republicans became the party of racism, Nazis were rightwing, Liberals founded this nation, Hillary is the smartest woman in the country and Bill Clinton ever had a budget surplus, women have a right to kill their unborn, women get paid less for the same job.....and "1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college."



Democrats lie about everything….on what basis would any of their fabricated data be considered valid???
Here the prism through which every Democrat pronouncement should be viewed: First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, “HandsUpDon’tShoot,”Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the Kavanaugh hoax, the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....and “More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son."



Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie. How stupid must one be to keep believing what they say?
...and, and that ‘armed insurrection’ that never occurred, and AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol. And, of course the 275 Democrat inspired riots were ‘mostly peaceful.’

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. They lie about everything.......yet Democrat voters are, ready to swallow the next lie.

And that the Wuhan Red Death did not come from a Chinese Communist lab that got its funding via Dr. Fauci, and its purpose was to remove Trump….

FakeStories: Three years of Russian Collusion stories; altering documents at the DoJ and FBI to railroad political opponents; the state media burying the Hunter Biden Scandal what with Joe getting 10% of the bribes; stories about Kavanaugh rape parties, and Covington Catholic School; Carter Page working for Russia when he was actually working for the CIA….where were those ‘fact checkers’? The great lie that there was an ‘insurrection’ January 6th. The lie that it was Republicans who wanted to defund the police. The lie that Critical Race Theory wasn’t being taught. The lie that 600,000 died from the Wuhan Red Death.
What should you do when they lied to you at least these 30 times already???????????

Democrats claimed it was Republicans who demanded defunding the police, AOC claimed ten people were killed Jan6th, Ilhan Omar blames the police for crime, they claimed that CRT wasn’t being taught in government school, men can become pregnant, and MAGA fans attacked Jussie Smollett, inflation due to Putin and the invasion…

• Brett Kavanaugh — Serial Rapist
• President Michael Avenatti
• The Covington KKKids Hoax
• Hands Up, Don’t Shoot
• George Zimmerman
• Mostly Peaceful Black Lives Matter Riots
• The Russia Collusion Hoax
• Antifa Stormed the Beaches on D-Day
• Cuomo (D-NY): King of Coronavirus Competence
• The Clearing of Lafayette Square Hoax
• The Lab Leak Theory Has Been Debunked Hoax
• The Russians Are Behind Hunter’s Laptop Hoax
• The Russian Bounty Hoax
• The Capitol Police Officer Killed with a Fire Extinguisher Hoax
• The Very Fine People Hoax
• Men Can Magically Transform into Women
• And on and on and on…

…what is the point of watching any corporate media outlet? All they do is lie. Even if you are an NPR wine mom, you do not want to be serially lied to.
The era of corporate media influence is ending thanks to the over the top bias, and that should be good for the future. Americans are rebelling against these exposed frauds, and 2022 should be a turning point."
Mark Simone 710

“… I would like to call attention to the principle of jurisprudence “Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus” (False in one thing, false in all). Although written in Latin, it’s English common law from the early 17th century, stating that “a witness who testifies falsely about one matter is not credible to testify about any matter.”

Durham Reveals Democrats Behaving Like KGB; Is More Coming?​

Commentary John Durham, the man chosen by former Attorney General William Barr as special counsel to unearth possible ...

www.theepochtimes.com




How many did you believe???


All of 'em, huh?



Insane.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It shouldn't be such a big deal to simply provide a clear and direct source for the specific numbers being referenced.

I did.

 

[Unkotare]

.....….I won’t believe any other number, I’ll just play stupid.”

What would be stupid is just buying whatever number some yahoo on the internet pulled out of his ass. Factual claims require factual evidence. No proof, no truth.

 

[Unkotare]

Seems we have just proven that you don't read too well.

...

"We" have not. Let's go, a simple and direct link.

 

[Lisa558]

Until recently single women with children were forced to dabble in the workforce to qualify for the unEarned Income Tax Credit that gives them more money back than was taken out for the payroll tax

so they do a few hours a week at something easy

but no more than they absolutely have to

Even worse……the “earned” income tax credit was so generous under Biden last year that women who HAD been working quit because they didn’t need the money!

 

[BrokeLoser]

What would be stupid is just buying whatever number some yahoo on the internet pulled out of his ass. Factual claims require factual evidence. No proof, no truth.

What number do you want to believe and why do you want to believe it?
Remember, we are talking about “UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS”

 

[Unkotare]

I did.

You did not. If you think you did, post it again just to prove me wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

What number do you want to believe and why do you want to believe it?
Remember, we are talking about “UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS”

In other words, you can't prove it. Then stop insisting on some number you pulled out of your ass.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"We" have not. Let's go, a simple and direct link.

You are free to believe the lies.


What more is there to say?

 

[Unkotare]

You are free to believe the lies.


What more is there to say?

There is to say where, specifically, you got that specific number.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is to say where, specifically, you got that specific number.

Explained and documented.

 

[Unkotare]

Explained and documented.

Nope. If you can't just say so, but stop insisting on a figure you cannot prove.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nope. If you can't just say so, but stop insisting on a figure you cannot prove.

"Est., 11 million illegals."



Based on your accepting that bogus 'estimate,' you may continue to be RealDumb.



1. That answer moves you firmly into the category of 'moron.'

Case in point: while millions of illegal aliens filter into the country year after year, the very same figure...."11 million illegal aliens live in the country"....neither changes nor is questioned.



2. "... no number has been given greater certitude and less investigation than that. Not even the number of planets in our solar system has enjoyed such constancy and acceptance.



Imagine the reaction if the media reported daily that this 20 million cohort, supplemented by chain migration and family reunification mandates, would swell to 40 million or 50 million in a decade." How Many Illegal Immigrants Live in the US?





There are between 50 million and 80 million illegal aliens living in this country.







3. James H. Walsh, formerly an Associate General Counsel of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in the United States Department of Justice, writes



"... the U.S. Census Bureau routinely undercounts and then adjusts upward total census numbers of Hispanics and other foreign nationals residing in the United States––counting only, of course, those willing to be counted. For the year 2000, the Census Bureau reported a total U.S. population count of “about 275 million” men, women, and children.



When the states and local governments challenged that number as an undercount, the total was corrected upward to 281.4 million, with no clear count of illegal aliens. The Hispanic 2000 census count was 32.8 million, but on re-count the Census Bureau adjusted this number upward to 35.3 million, a 13 percent increase."

How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research



Increased the totals by 13%!!!

Now....hold on tight....this is gonna involve mathematics, so I may lose you here:



Soooo....if we apply that same 'adjustment' to the fabled 11 million....over a decade of so....we have almost 40 million.









But wait!!!

There's more!



4. Another way to arrive at the numbers of illegals in the country is to base it on the number of apprehensions and escapes.



"The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 million a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.





Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.



He concludes that:



My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports.









5. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States."

How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research



....and that number is over a decade old!!!!!!



Gettin' nervous?





6. But other Border Patrol agents estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven......which would give a total of nearly 80 million illegals occupying our country.



The number of illegals would be at least.....at least.....60-80 million at this time.....permanently residing right here is this country.





Hence...even a tiny fraction of them voting would be 3-6 million votes.

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Judging by the amount of time and effort that the Democrats spend advancing the aims and claims of illegal aliens....one can begin to see what a huge constituency they make up for the Democrat Party.



" Democrats had extensive get-out-the-vote campaigns in areas heavily populated by illegal aliens. As far back as 2008, Obama made sure that those who wanted to vote knew it was safe, announcing that election records would not be cross-checked with immigration databases.

... the Obama White House supported a court injunction that kept Kansas, Alabama and Georgia from requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote. The message was sent, loud and clear: If you're a noncitizen or here illegally, don't be afraid. You're free to vote. No one will stop you."

Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way

We don't know the exact number of illegal votes. No one does. But the data that are available suggest that the number of illegal votes was substantial.

www.investors.com

 

[Unkotare]

"Est., 11 million illegals."



Based on your accepting that bogus 'estimate,' ......

I didn't say anything about that number, I asked you prove your number. You haven't. If you can't, just say so. No big deal.

 

[Stashman]

There is no Democrat Party in power in the US.

You are right they are Marxist.

 

[Stashman]

Most people on welfare do work.

About a Third of Families Who Received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program Benefits Had Two or More People Working

Most families who received Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits had at least one worker and about a third included two or more workers.

www.census.gov

What someone says on a census is not fact. No one verifies anything on it. Now that's a FACT.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I didn't say anything about that number, I asked you prove your number. You haven't. If you can't, just say so. No big deal.

Hahaha….So what’s the number that you want to believe to hold on to those warm and fuzzies?
You poor teachers…you don’t know how to use the law of total probability….You can’t use your own head to gather information…you can’t take such information and arrive at a plausible hypothesis….You only know what you find in textbooks, ‘the curriculum’.
Sad, these are the myopic thinking programmed loons mentoring Americas children.

 

[Unkotare]

….So what’s the number that you want to believe .....

I don't "want" to believe any particular number. Whatever is, is. However, if anyone wants to insist on any number, they need to provide proof. Simple logic.