Remember when the left cried because Trump had the unmitigated gall to take a call from Taiwan?

[Theowl32]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

 

[Ricky LIbtardo]

The fake outrage over Taiwan is absolutely libtarded. Obama sells them $2 Billion of military arms and our snowflakes go batshit crazy over a phone call. Truly libtarded.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

What do libs want to do, bomb Russia?

 

[ABikerSailor]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

 

[westwall]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

Yeah? So? China needs a wakeup call. This was it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

 

[Theowl32]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

What do libs want to do, bomb Russia?

You tell me what they want. Oh right. Hillary as president.

Cause according to them Trump lies about stuff.

And they want hillary as president.

Meanwhile they cry cause Trump "provoked" china (the paragon of human rights) and all they do is constantly provoke putin for all of the things china does to us.

Get it? I doubt it. Meanwhile the giant provoking of China was taking a call. Oh, and Russia is not fucking us on trade. China sure the fuck is.

Get it? I doubt it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

So what? The US has been selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taiwan to defend itself if attacked by China and that is certainly de facto recognition that Taiwan is a separate country. After eight years of Obama's lack of a foreign policy, Democrats seemed shocked that Trump has one. Why is this? Trump announced during his campaign that he intended to do some tough negotiating with China, and this is to let them know, there is a new sheriff in town who won't be a pushover.

 

[Theowl32]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

Trust this. The left strongly desire the obliteration of America if they don't get their way.

What is it they stand for? Well, really one thing. The obliteration of the American white capitalist Christian male.

Trust that.

 

[ABikerSailor]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

So what? The US has been selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taiwan to defend itself if attacked by China and that is certainly de facto recognition that Taiwan is a separate country. After eight years of Obama's lack of a foreign policy, Democrats seemed shocked that Trump has one. Why is this? Trump announced during his campaign that he intended to do some tough negotiating with China, and this is to let them know, there is a new sheriff in town who won't be a pushover.

You are right. Obama DID sell weapons to Taiwan, and China was pissed. The sale back in 2015 was the first sale in 4 years, and it was comprised of mostly defensive weapons that were all outdated technology from the 70s and 80s. And, it's something that has been done across the past six administrations.

Here.................read up on it................

U.S. sells $1.83B of weapons to Taiwan over Chinese ire - CNNPolitics.com

And, it is consistent with the treaty we have with Taiwan. Every now and again, we assess their defensive requirements and then do a sale to them. Jr. did it, Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and Obama has done it.

However...............none of them have ever officially referred to Taiwan's government.

 

[Tresha91203]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

He didn't call Taiwan. He accepted a phone call from a foreign national. Why are we kissing China's butt, anyway? Do they have any history of caring about American interests?

Why is it OK to dialogue with Cuba and Iran, but Taiwan is forever taboo? Is Taiwan worse than Cuba or Iran regarding American interests? I can't imagine how, personally.

 

[BluesLegend]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

Trust this. The left strongly desire the obliteration of America if they don't get their way.

What is it they stand for? Well, really one thing. The obliteration of the American white capitalist Christian male.

Trust that.

You forgot their public enemy #1 fossil fuels and the corporations who make billions off them.

 

[ABikerSailor]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

He didn't call Taiwan. He accepted a phone call from a foreign national. Why are we kissing China's butt, anyway? Do they have any history of caring about American interests?

Why is it OK to dialogue with Cuba and Iran, but Taiwan is forever taboo? Is Taiwan worse than Cuba or Iran regarding American interests? I can't imagine how, personally.

Yeah, he did accept the call. And, if he had kept quiet about it instead of bragging about it on Twitter, there would be no problem. BUT, because he did refer to her as president, and so did Pence when they were asked about it, that constituted official recognition of Taiwan, which is against what we agreed to with China. We violated their agreement with us when he did that.

If he'd been called when he wasn't president elect, it wouldn't qualify as official recognition, but because he is president elect, it kinda does.

And.............in our dealings with Iran, it's done via diplomatic channels, but we don't have an agreement with other countries concerning them like we do with China and Taiwan, and Cuba talks didn't happen until AFTER a lengthy period of diplomatic negotiation.

 

[Theowl32]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

Trust this. The left strongly desire the obliteration of America if they don't get their way.

What is it they stand for? Well, really one thing. The obliteration of the American white capitalist Christian male.

Trust that.

You forgot their public enemy #1 fossil fuels and the corporations who make billions off them.

Actually the love fossil fuels and ALL of the products they use made from fossil fuels.

They just know many white Christian capitalist males make money from it. Therefore, like everything else, they feign outrage in their pathetic hypocritical selective manner.

The scary thing about the gaggle of fucking losers, is they convince themselves how much they care and hate icky oil.

Let them try to live without these...

 

[BluesLegend]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

Trust this. The left strongly desire the obliteration of America if they don't get their way.

What is it they stand for? Well, really one thing. The obliteration of the American white capitalist Christian male.

Trust that.

You forgot their public enemy #1 fossil fuels and the corporations who make billions off them.

Actually the love fossil fuels and ALL of the products they use made from fossil fuels.

They just know many white Christian capitalist males make money from it. Therefore, like everything else, they feign outrage in their pathetic hypocritical selective manner.

The scary thing about the gaggle of fucking losers, is they convince themselves how much they care and hate icky oil.

Let them try to live without these...

To be clear, what they hate is that private corporations are making all the money on a resource they feel belongs to the people and government should reap the profits from. In other socialist countries the government owns all the fossil fuels and profits.

 

[Theowl32]

Saying how it is going to risk a war with China?

Meanwhile, they continually beat the actual war drum against Putin.

What is their claim? That Putin spied on us with cyber attacks and Putin did bad things to Crimea and did bad things to isis, and has a bad record on human rights.

Meanwhile, how has china treated Taiwan? Tibet? What is China's record on human rights? How about the planet? Ever see how the Chinese attacks us on the cyber networks every fucking day?

Nothing in this world is more disgusting than a fucking liberal. Nothing.

That's what I have been saying. They are butthurt so they blame a nuclear power and threaten war, unreal.

Trust this. The left strongly desire the obliteration of America if they don't get their way.

What is it they stand for? Well, really one thing. The obliteration of the American white capitalist Christian male.

Trust that.

You forgot their public enemy #1 fossil fuels and the corporations who make billions off them.

Actually the love fossil fuels and ALL of the products they use made from fossil fuels.

They just know many white Christian capitalist males make money from it. Therefore, like everything else, they feign outrage in their pathetic hypocritical selective manner.

The scary thing about the gaggle of fucking losers, is they convince themselves how much they care and hate icky oil.

Let them try to live without these...

To be clear, what they hate is that private corporations are making all the money on a resource they feel belongs to the people and government should reap the profits from. In other socialist countries the government owns all the fossil fuels and profits.

They somehow don't hate the Arabs that make billions from it and build lavish palaces etc.

They are brown.


Like I said, there is only really one thing they stand for or selectively show outrage about.

White American (automatically Christians and descendants of slave owners) capitalists making money from it.

 

[Tresha91203]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

He didn't call Taiwan. He accepted a phone call from a foreign national. Why are we kissing China's butt, anyway? Do they have any history of caring about American interests?

Why is it OK to dialogue with Cuba and Iran, but Taiwan is forever taboo? Is Taiwan worse than Cuba or Iran regarding American interests? I can't imagine how, personally.

Yeah, he did accept the call. And, if he had kept quiet about it instead of bragging about it on Twitter, there would be no problem. BUT, because he did refer to her as president, and so did Pence when they were asked about it, that constituted official recognition of Taiwan, which is against what we agreed to with China. We violated their agreement with us when he did that.

If he'd been called when he wasn't president elect, it wouldn't qualify as official recognition, but because he is president elect, it kinda does.

And.............in our dealings with Iran, it's done via diplomatic channels, but we don't have an agreement with other countries concerning them like we do with China and Taiwan, and Cuba talks didn't happen until AFTER a lengthy period of diplomatic negotiation.

I see relations with Cuba and Iran as much more dangerous than relations with Taiwan. The current administration has no problem changing the status quo, even abandoning our promise to Crimea and our sound policy of not negotiating with terrorists. I have a major problem with hypocrisy, personally, so admit it may be more personal.

I don't care about Taiwan or China, honestly. I am peeved about the hypocrisy. I find myself in this position often lately: not liking Trump but pointing out that the "opposition" did much the same, so why the sudden outrage? I am floored at times over America's selective outrage is all.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

So what? The US has been selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taiwan to defend itself if attacked by China and that is certainly de facto recognition that Taiwan is a separate country. After eight years of Obama's lack of a foreign policy, Democrats seemed shocked that Trump has one. Why is this? Trump announced during his campaign that he intended to do some tough negotiating with China, and this is to let them know, there is a new sheriff in town who won't be a pushover.

You are right. Obama DID sell weapons to Taiwan, and China was pissed. The sale back in 2015 was the first sale in 4 years, and it was comprised of mostly defensive weapons that were all outdated technology from the 70s and 80s. And, it's something that has been done across the past six administrations.

Here.................read up on it................

U.S. sells $1.83B of weapons to Taiwan over Chinese ire - CNNPolitics.com

And, it is consistent with the treaty we have with Taiwan. Every now and again, we assess their defensive requirements and then do a sale to them. Jr. did it, Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and Obama has done it.

However...............none of them have ever officially referred to Taiwan's government.

lol If they never did business with the government, who signed the contracts and the checks. It is true that every administration has given de facto recognition to Taiwan as an independent nation while at the same time holding to the official position that it is part of China. That's the kind of thing crazy people do.

Before 1971, most of the world recognized the government of Taiwan (ROC) as the legitimate government of all of China and Taiwan held the China seat at the UN. However, Mao Zedong's government refused to open diplomatic relations with any country that recognized the ROC, so the US, wanting to open diplomatic relations with the PRC bowed to Mao's demands helping to strip Taiwan of its seat at the UN and opposing its membership in any international organization except as a non state actor.

So the US abandoned an ally of many years in order to open diplomatic relations with an enemy, something we should not be proud of, and since then while maintaining the fiction that Taiwan is not an independent nation we deal with it as if it were. Trump's acceptance of the Taiwanese president's phone call, is disturbing to some people because it shows how absurd our foreign policy has been and exposes a shameful period in our past.

 

[Theowl32]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

So what? The US has been selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taiwan to defend itself if attacked by China and that is certainly de facto recognition that Taiwan is a separate country. After eight years of Obama's lack of a foreign policy, Democrats seemed shocked that Trump has one. Why is this? Trump announced during his campaign that he intended to do some tough negotiating with China, and this is to let them know, there is a new sheriff in town who won't be a pushover.

You are right. Obama DID sell weapons to Taiwan, and China was pissed. The sale back in 2015 was the first sale in 4 years, and it was comprised of mostly defensive weapons that were all outdated technology from the 70s and 80s. And, it's something that has been done across the past six administrations.

Here.................read up on it................

U.S. sells $1.83B of weapons to Taiwan over Chinese ire - CNNPolitics.com

And, it is consistent with the treaty we have with Taiwan. Every now and again, we assess their defensive requirements and then do a sale to them. Jr. did it, Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and Obama has done it.

However...............none of them have ever officially referred to Taiwan's government.

lol If they never did business with the government, who signed the contracts and the checks. It is true that every administration has given de facto recognition to Taiwan as an independent nation while at the same time holding to the official position that it is part of China. That's the kind of thing crazy people do.

Before 1971, most of the world recognized the government of Taiwan (ROC) as the legitimate government of all of China and Taiwan held the China seat at the UN. However, Mao Zedong's government refused to open diplomatic relations with any country that recognized the ROC, so the US, wanting to open diplomatic relations with the PRC bowed to Mao's demands helping to strip Taiwan of its seat at the UN and opposing its membership in any international organization except as a non state actor.

So the US abandoned an ally of many years in order to open diplomatic relations with an enemy, something we should not be proud of, and since then while maintaining the fiction that Taiwan is not an independent nation we deal with it as if it were. Trump's acceptance of the Taiwanese president's phone call, is disturbing to some people because it shows how absurd our foreign policy has been and exposes a shameful period in our past.

In this case it illustrates the absurd toad like squirming hypocritical minds of the American hating left wing assholes in this country.

Then again, everything illustrates that. This is just one of MANY things.

 

[ABikerSailor]

It wasn't so much that he took a phone call, it was the fact that he recognized the president of Taiwan as a president, and so did Pence when he called her the president of Taiwan.

It wasn't the phone call, it was officially recognizing Taiwan as a separate government from China, which goes against the "One China" policy put into place by Nixon, repealed by Carter, and reinstated under Reagan.

And before you go saying that he's not president yet, you have to remember he is president elect and because of that is no longer a regular citizen, and anything he does or says will be taken as the official views and policy of this country.

So what? The US has been selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to Taiwan to defend itself if attacked by China and that is certainly de facto recognition that Taiwan is a separate country. After eight years of Obama's lack of a foreign policy, Democrats seemed shocked that Trump has one. Why is this? Trump announced during his campaign that he intended to do some tough negotiating with China, and this is to let them know, there is a new sheriff in town who won't be a pushover.

You are right. Obama DID sell weapons to Taiwan, and China was pissed. The sale back in 2015 was the first sale in 4 years, and it was comprised of mostly defensive weapons that were all outdated technology from the 70s and 80s. And, it's something that has been done across the past six administrations.

Here.................read up on it................

U.S. sells $1.83B of weapons to Taiwan over Chinese ire - CNNPolitics.com

And, it is consistent with the treaty we have with Taiwan. Every now and again, we assess their defensive requirements and then do a sale to them. Jr. did it, Reagan did it, Clinton did it, and Obama has done it.

However...............none of them have ever officially referred to Taiwan's government.

lol If they never did business with the government, who signed the contracts and the checks. It is true that every administration has given de facto recognition to Taiwan as an independent nation while at the same time holding to the official position that it is part of China. That's the kind of thing crazy people do.

Before 1971, most of the world recognized the government of Taiwan (ROC) as the legitimate government of all of China and Taiwan held the China seat at the UN. However, Mao Zedong's government refused to open diplomatic relations with any country that recognized the ROC, so the US, wanting to open diplomatic relations with the PRC bowed to Mao's demands helping to strip Taiwan of its seat at the UN and opposing its membership in any international organization except as a non state actor.

So the US abandoned an ally of many years in order to open diplomatic relations with an enemy, something we should not be proud of, and since then while maintaining the fiction that Taiwan is not an independent nation we deal with it as if it were. Trump's acceptance of the Taiwanese president's phone call, is disturbing to some people because it shows how absurd our foreign policy has been and exposes a shameful period in our past.

Hey, I didn't write the policy, Nixon and Reagan did. I'm just showing you why it was such a gaffe and why he's catching flack for it. Changing 30 years of US policy before you're president is kinda pushing it.