Remember when Trump was attacking NATO? Thank your lucky stars he was fired.

[The Original Tree]

What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia (Published 2022)

Brussels is proud to be providing military aid, but Moscow may see it as a dangerous intervention.

www.nytimes.com

Dumb ass he told NATO to increase their military spending. Now you know why!

Germany just announced they are increasing it by 2%.

You should be thanking Trump, but you are most likely. Russian Whore paid to tell lies.

sucks to be you.

 

[BlindBoo]

Wrong, our most dependable allies were the people we wrongly attacked, like Saddam and the Taliban.

Hahaha. You know the day they gave Saddam his NooseNap was a great day for humanity. Too bad they didn't hang him in 1980.

 

[Rigby5]

Trump attacked Europe's LACK of commitment to NATO and said they needed to pay their fair share. Your partisan skew is noted. Putin isn;t going to stop with Ukraine either. Europe knows that. Hence the response. Go be a Russian troll elsewhere.

It is stupid to send weapons to the Ukraine.
They are the violators for stealing oil and abusing ethnic Russians, so can't win.
The more weapons they get, the more destruction of the Ukraine and the more dead Ukrainians.
Putin originally was just intent on the Donetsk and Crimea, but the longer this takes, the more the Ukraine will owe Russia for their troubles.

 

[Flash]

The Ukraine is not our ally, and is one of the worst dictatorships in Europe.

They also helped to make the Joe Poataohead family rich but that doesn't excuse the fact that Putin invaded the country.

Of course that nice little multi million dollar payoff from the Mayor of Moscow to Hunter Biden didn't hurt either, did it?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I highly doubt that Putin would have bothered Ukraine if Trump had not left the WH, NATO was so busy sorting out the internal ranking. In fact, no one notices that the US is not the Alpha dog now. The UK is. You need to thx who is in the WH now.

The UK alpha dog....

 

[Rigby5]

Hahaha. You know the day they gave Saddam his NooseNap was a great day for humanity. Too bad they didn't hang him in 1980.

Saddam was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq.
He raised the nutrition, education, and health care levels above any other Mideast country.
The claim he abused or gassed Kurds is a lie.
The reality is it was the Iranians who went through Halabja and was using cyanide.
Saddam never had cyanide, and only had mustard gas.

 

[Rigby5]

They also helped to make the Joe Poataohead family rich but that doesn't excuse the fact that Putin invaded the country.

Of course that nice little multi million dollar payoff from the Mayor of Moscow to Hunter Biden didn't hurt either, did it?

But the fact the Ukraine abused ethnic Russians, stole oil, and tried to join NATO, does justify the invasion.

 

[WEATHER53]

Trump told NATO to carry their own weight and pay their bills. Hardly an attack. Fake thread title hiding behind “opinion” . We know responsibility shirking liberals find Honoring financial responsibility abhorrent .
But. NATO did what they should which is why they are strong enough right now to create an effective push backs distasteful

 

[jc456]

So, no link then?

Still you got nothing. I see that didn't make you happy.

 

[jc456]

Only stupid uneducated low information TDS afflicted Moon Bats would characterize getting other NATO members to pay their fair share as "attacking NATO". LOL!

If Trump was President now Putin wouldn't have the courage to invade the Ukraine. Too bad we have this weak and stupid shithead for President now.

can't make up their kind of stupid can you?

 

[bripat9643]

What a clusterfuck our response to this invasion would be if Putin's BFF was still in Washington. The world breathes a sigh of relief, along with educated and sensible Americans.



BRUSSELS — The Dutch are sending rocket launchers for air defense. The Estonians are sending Javelin antitank missiles. The Poles and the Latvians are sending Stinger surface-to-air missiles. The Czechs are sending machine guns, sniper rifles, pistols and ammunition.

Even formerly neutral countries like Sweden and Finland are sending weapons. And Germany, long allergic to sending weapons into conflict zones, is sending Stingers as well as other shoulder-launched rockets.

In all, about 20 countries — most members of NATO and the European Union, but not all — are funneling arms into Ukraine to fight off Russian invaders and arm an insurgency, if the war comes to that.

At the same time, NATO is moving military equipment and as many as 22,000 more troops into member states bordering Russia and Belarus, to reassure them and enhance deterrence.


The Russian invasion of Ukraine has brought European countries together as never before, minds concentrated by the larger threat to European security presented by the Russia of President Vladimir V. Putin.

“European security and defense has evolved more in the last six days than in the last two decades,” Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Union’s executive arm, asserted in a speech to the European Parliament on Tuesday. Brussels has moved to “Europeanize” the efforts of member states to aid Ukraine with weapons and money and put down a marker for the bloc as a significant military actor.


But whether European weaponry will continue to reach the Ukrainian battlefield in time to make a difference is far from certain. However proud Brussels is of its effort, it is a strategy that risks encouraging a wider war and possible retaliation from Mr. Putin. The rush of lethal military aid into Ukraine from Poland, a member of NATO, aims, after all, to kill Russian soldiers.

Mr. Putin already sees NATO as committed to threaten or even destroy Russia through its support for Ukraine, as he has repeated in his recent speeches, even as he has raised the nuclear alert of his own forces to warn Europe and the United States of the risks of interference.

NATO Countries Pour Weapons Into Ukraine, Risking Conflict With Russia (Published 2022)

Brussels is proud to be providing military aid, but Moscow may see it as a dangerous intervention.

www.nytimes.com

So every time prog douchebags ATTACKED the president, they were guilty of treason?

 

[jc456]

He and Putin aren't big fans, that's for sure.

Now Trump has to play "pretend".

so you don't care about Ukrainians either, got it.

 

[jc456]

Yes. Putin may end up going to war with the entirety of Europe (and us) when a NATO country shoots down one of their planes.

What is NATO doing? Not being attacked.....because they are a NATO country. Most of the resources and economic punishment is coming from NATO countries.

you be a lover of bullies, we know.

 

[jc456]

So every time prog douchebags ATTACKED the president, they were guilty of treason?

their words.

 

[bripat9643]

can't make up their kind of stupid can you?

They are using two different meanings of the word "attack" as if they were the same thing. To criticize, or "attack" is one thing. To lob bombs and missiles, is another. They take an example of the former and apply the later meaning to it.

True scum.

 

[Astrostar]

Hey stupid, the whole russia collusion thing has been proven to be a scam perpetrated by the Demoncrats. It's Biden that welcomed payoffs from Russia. And Biden that decided to let them overrun the Ukraine just like Obummer let them overrun Crimea. Trump is the only president that they feared. THEY DIDN'T OVER RUN ANY OTHER COUNTRY WHILE TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE.
Asking NATO to do their fair share was a good thing. Stop being a stupid American. We have way too many of those...

We do have too many; they are known as the Trump Cult. Bigly!!!

 

[HappyJoy]

Still you got nothing. I see that didn't make you happy.

I asked for a link to your claim and you didn't provide one.

 

[HappyJoy]

you be a lover of bullies, we know.

Poor Pooty.

 

[BlindBoo]

Saddam was the best thing that ever happened to Iraq.
He raised the nutrition, education, and health care levels above any other Mideast country.

BS all those things happened before he took control. He oversaw the destruction of all that had been accomplished by the Ba'ath Party

The claim he abused or gassed Kurds is a lie.

When our

An article from March 1998 by Kendal Nezan Baghdad's refusal to allow UN experts to inspect the presidential sites on which chemical and biological weapons were allegedly hidden was taken to justify a new bombing campaign on Iraq last month.

www.institutkurde.org

 

[jknowgood]

What? No way are the GOP going to believe that bit of History. Nor will they believe he wanted all troop to withdraw from Germany.

John McEntee, one of Donald Trump's most-favored aides, handed retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor a piece of paper with a few notes scribbled on it. He explained: "This is what the president wants you to do."

1. Get us out of Afghanistan.

2. Get us out of Iraq and Syria.

3. Complete the withdrawal from Germany.

4. Get us out of Africa.

It was Nov. 9, 2020 — days after Trump lost his re-election bid, 10 weeks before the end of his presidency and just moments after Macgregor was offered a post as senior adviser to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.

As head of the powerful Presidential Personnel Office, McEntee had Trump's ear. Even so, Macgregor was astonished. He told McEntee he doubted they could do all of these things before Jan. 20.

"Then do as much as you can," McEntee replied.

In Macgregor's opinion, Miller probably couldn't act on his own authority to execute a total withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan because he was serving in an acting capacity. If this was for real, Macgregor told McEntee, then it was going to need an order from the president.

The one-page memo was delivered by courier to Christopher Miller's office two days later, on the afternoon of Nov. 11.

Off the Rails: Trump’s failed 11th-hour military withdrawal campaign

A behind-the-scenes look at former President Trump’s unprecedented clash with the Pentagon.

www.axios.com

I place that next to the Russian collusion file.