Remembering Barbarossa

[rightwinger]

President Roosevelt certainly did. The way he kissed Stalin's bolshevik behind is documented at Yalta.

Instead of demanding Stalin close the Gulags and have free elections, FDR just kept quiet about human rights. Quite a contrast with President Reagan who on this date in history in another year, demanded that Bloody Gorby "tear down this wall"

FDR got Stalin to defeat the Nazis for us
Pretty shrewd

 

[Zincwarrior]

How was either leader or nation liberal?

In MAGA world Nazis were socialists.

 

[Stryder50]

The Russians and Great Britain already had an alliance before the US entered the war. Polyspit yet again blesses us with her redundant anti-American rhetorical propaganda to drive a wedge between Americans, she thrives on seeing the US in flames and in turmoil. Her buds in the literary industry are also anti-American agitators who's jobs it is to see us in turmoil also.
The reason why fascism was not an evil name is people like the Bush family were doing business with Nazi Germany and the Koch family did business with the Soviets.

UK only "allied" with USSR after June 22, 1941 attack by Germany.
Churchill's motivation was to have Russia draw as much Germany attention and resources away from UK as possible.
Note they were only allied six months before the Pearl Harbor attack on USA.
Most international corps. traded across lines, with both sides. Standard Oil is a classic example, of many.

 

[Stryder50]

In MAGA world Nazis were socialists.

"Nazis" = National Socialist German Workers Party = NSDAP
USSR = International Socialists

 

[Stryder50]

Liberalism is synonymous with Progressive
Libertarian is synonymous with being a selfish asshole

Classic "liberalism", per-twentith century would be partial progressive.
Socialism of twentieth century co-opted those two terms. However their "progressive" is really regressive = strong state over weak citizens.
Libertarian is synonymous with more self-determination, less state dominance.
Regressive, pseudo-liberal, Leftists are synonymous with "selfish asshole" since they want to steal from productive rather than provide for themselves.

 

[gipper]

I'm NOT surprised you either didn't, or withheld such.

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[Zincwarrior]

"Nazis" = National Socialist German Workers Party = NSDAP
USSR = International Socialists

PRC - you really think they are a Republic?

 

[Stryder50]

PRC - you really think they are a Republic?

See #45 above.
Classic of fascists, statists, socialists, & communists to abuse and misuse terms to deflect what they really are.
USSR = Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Similar with AntiFa, claim to be "anti-fascist" yet you classic fascist thuggery to advance their bully political agenda.

 

[rightwinger]

Libertarian is synonymous with more self-determination, less state dominance.

Libertarian is synonymous with……I got mine, screw everyone else

 

[Stryder50]

Libertarian is synonymous with……I got mine, screw everyone else

No!
You have a right to what you earn, but others don't have a right to take it for themselves.
Charity is not compulsory.
Taxes are compulsory, but are not charity, despite the lies of parasitic leftists and regressives.

 

[rightwinger]

No!
You have a right to what you earn, but others don't have a right to take it for themselves.
Charity is not compulsory.
Taxes are compulsory, but are not charity, despite the lies of parasitic leftists and regressives.

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society

Libertarians believe in every man for themselves and dismiss the value of living in a society.

I got mine, screw everyone else

 

[Zincwarrior]

See #45 above.
Classic of fascists, statists, socialists, & communists to abuse and misuse terms to deflect what they really are.
USSR = Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Similar with AntiFa, claim to be "anti-fascist" yet you classic fascist thuggery to advance their bully political agenda.

Other than socialist in the name, the Fascist had no ties whatsoever to socialism.

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

"By the late 1920s, however, with the German economy in free fall, Hitler had enlisted support from wealthy industrialists who sought to pursue avowedly anti-socialist policies. Otto Strasser soon recognized that the Nazis were neither a party of socialists nor a party of workers, and in 1930 he broke away to form the anti-capitalist Schwarze Front (Black Front). Gregor remained the head of the left wing of the Nazi Party, but the lot for the ideological soul of the party had been cast.


Hitler allied himself with leaders of German conservative and nationalist movements, and in January 1933 German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor. Hitler’s Third Reich had been born, and it was entirely fascist in character. Within two months Hitler achieved full dictatorial power through the Enabling Act. In April 1933 communists, socialists, democrats, and Jews were purged from the German civil service, and trade unions were outlawed the following month. That July Hitler banned all political parties other than his own, and prominent members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party were arrested and imprisoned in concentration camps. Lest there be any remaining questions about the political character of the Nazi revolution, Hitler ordered the murder of Gregor Strasser, an act that was carried out on June 30, 1934, during the Night of the Long Knives. Any remaining traces of socialist thought in the Nazi Party had been extinguished."

 

[Robert W]

1. Every day, and in so very many ways, government school lies to its captive audience, often by omission.
They may or may not tell of significant historic events......but even when they do, they leave out context and pertinent details.


This day, June 22, or 1941, two Leftist, Socialist regimes fought.......and should have been encouraged to fight to the death......both of their deaths.


2. Operation Barbarossa was the code name for the Axis invasion of the Soviet Union, which started on Sunday, 22 June 1941, during World War II. The operation put into action Nazi Germany's ideological goal of conquering the western Soviet Union so as to repopulate it with Germans. Wikipedia


3.
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The two were allies until this date, with Stalin providing the materials Germany lacked, for Hitler's Blitzkrieg.
Common parade of German Wehrmacht and Soviet Red Army on September 23, 1939 in Brest, Eastern Poland at the end of the Poland Campaign. In the center is Major General Heinz Guderian; and on the right is Brigadier General Semyon Krivoshein.


4. Franklin Roosevelt faced a difficult decision.....he didn't know which of his 'pals' to support.

It came down to this:
" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48


FDR made a terrible mistake: he turned over American foreign policy to Stalin.


5. Hanson Baldwin, military critic of the New York Times, declares in his book, "Great Mistakes of the War:" 'There is no doubt whatsoever that it would have been to the interest of Britain, the United States, and the world to have allowed and indeed to have encouraged-the world's two great dictatorships to fight each other to a frazzle.'
Baldwin writes that the United States put itself "in the role-at times a disgraceful role-of fearful suppliant and propitiating ally, anxious at nearly any cost to keep Russia fighting. In retrospect, how stupid!"

Most Americans never heard of FDR. Sounds strange but he was president over 90 years back. FDR was a pal of Stalin. FDR motivated Americans to like Communism. My grandfather is an example.

 

[Robert W]

Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society

Libertarians believe in every man for themselves and dismiss the value of living in a society.

I got mine, screw everyone else

When income taxes were created, Government decided to take only about 5 percent from the rich. It is ridiculous what they steal now.

 

[surada]

Political Chic is still upset the Nazis lost.
Frau Braun is still angry that FDR did not support her beloved Adolph

Funny that Nazis wanted to colonize Western Russia. Sounds like Zionist ambitions in Palestine.

 

[surada]

FDR was elected in 1932 and under his leadership or lack of it the bank recession turned into the "Great Depression" that lasted for his first two terms. The Brits were shocked that the FDR administration had no idea of the military buildup in Germany or Japan for that matter. The FDR foreign policy was non existent and the sick old dude apparently had no vision for the world if and when WW2 ended. Enemies became friends and friends became enemies and the legacy of FDR's failed foreign policy was the Iron Curtain.

Hitler was never elected. Hitler became Chancellor on 30 January 1933 when the German President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Hitler as the Chancellor at the head of a coalition government.

 

[surada]

"Nazis" = National Socialist German Workers Party = NSDAP
USSR = International Socialists

Hitler split with the socialists in 1926. In 1933 he purged them from the German government and put them in Dachau.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler split with the socialists in 1926. In 1933 he purged them from the German government and put them in Dachau.

Of course that is nonsense. Hitler, Nazis, Bolsheviks, Communists, Democrats, all share the same blood line. All originate from the droppings of Karl Marx.

Often overlooked is that Islamists joined that ilk.


"...there is a picture of the grand mufti of Palestine, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, reviewing an honor guard of the Muslim division of the Waffen SS that fought the Serbs and antifascist partisans. The display includes a cable to Hajj Amin from Heinrich Himmler, dated November 2, 1943: “The National Socialist Party has inscribed on its flag ‘the extermination of world Jewry.’ Our party sympathizes with the fight of the Arabs, especially the Arabs of Palestine, against the foreign Jew.” There is also a quote from a broadcast the mufti gave over Berlin radio on March 1, 1944: “Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This is the command of God, history and religion.”
http://www.city-journal.org/2010/eon1021ss.html

Sol Stern

The Intellectuals Keep Flying

The New York Review of Books seeks to discredit Paul Berman.

21 October 2010

 

[PoliticalChic]

frau eva P C is a piece of crap, and we all know it.

Churchill and FDR worked with Stalin to the betterment for their own countries, as did Stalin for his.

If Hitler had won, the eventual nationalist uprisings in Europe would have tore the continent apart.

"torn," you imbecile, not "tore."

I bet most have noticed that Democrat/Bolshevik supporters are uneducated.

 

[surada]

Of course that is nonsense. Hitler, Nazis, Bolsheviks, Communists, Democrats, all share the same blood line. All originate from the droppings of Karl Marx.

Often overlooked is that Islamists joined that ilk.


"...there is a picture of the grand mufti of Palestine, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, reviewing an honor guard of the Muslim division of the Waffen SS that fought the Serbs and antifascist partisans. The display includes a cable to Hajj Amin from Heinrich Himmler, dated November 2, 1943: “The National Socialist Party has inscribed on its flag ‘the extermination of world Jewry.’ Our party sympathizes with the fight of the Arabs, especially the Arabs of Palestine, against the foreign Jew.” There is also a quote from a broadcast the mufti gave over Berlin radio on March 1, 1944: “Arabs, rise as one man and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This is the command of God, history and religion.”
http://www.city-journal.org/2010/eon1021ss.html

Sol Stern

The Intellectuals Keep Flying

The New York Review of Books seeks to discredit Paul Berman.

21 October 2010

You're really ignorant. Fascist is hard right conservative...