Remembering why the Bill of Rights was not part of Constitution and why the income...

[EdwardBaiamonte]

tax was unconstitutional:

1) Many of our Founders were afraid that if government got the right to protect free speech, for example, they would instead eliminate it.

Such was the fear of liberal government.

2) the income tax was ruled unconstitutional because it was a direct tax, i.e., a direct tax on a person's income that could not be avoided, whereas before taxes had been on transactions that one could much more easily avoid by simply not making a particular transaction.

Such was the disdain for what liberal government could do with our money versus what we could do with our own hard earned money.

where do you get this stuff?

and ultimately, who cares?

we all should care as we see how far from basic American philosophy we have strayed becuase liberals simply lack the IQ to understand how freedom works. Lets not forget that patriotism essentially means wanting to make liberals illegal as the Constitution intended. Is patriotism so bad given that America rose to become the world's moral policeman and savior as a result of America's freedom philosophy?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

There is no god. Anything having to do with god is absolute bullshit. Human beings make the decisions.

God or not, until god actually reveals himself to declare otherwise in these matters, god absolutely is not a factor in anything in the human realm. So, whether there exists a god or not, there certainly is no god when it comes to these matters, because he chooses not to reveal himself.

Maybe he just likes being mysterious.

well, the law of gravity did not reveal itself for millions of years but we still obeyed the law and did not walk off cliffs during the period of our ignorance!

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Benjamin Franklin was in agreement with Thomas Jefferson in downplaying protection of "property" as a goal of government. It is noted that Franklin found property to be a "creature of society" and thus, he believed that it should be taxed as a way to finance civil society.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and even yahoo-simple answers and questions addresses this one: Why was Thomas Jeffersons phrase. "Life, liberty, and the persuit of property" Changed to Happiness? - Yahoo! Answers

An English translation of Jean Jacques Burlamaqui's Principles of Natural and Politic Law prepared in 1763 extolled the "noble pursuit" of "true and solid happiness" in the opening chapter discussing natural rights.[18] Historian Jack Rakove posits Burlamaqui as the inspiration for Jefferson's phrase.

Dante likes Jack

Just received another copy of: Original Meanings: Politics And Ideas In The Making Of The Constitution: by Jack Rakove
I've long been a drifter, and later/recently a brief stint as a nomad. Holding on to material belongings was given up long ago. So it's a treat to get a new copy.

And I will be posting in this tread, yet again.

D

 

[Dante Reawakened]

You actually needed a class on "context"? What did they call it, Socialism 101?

The context that you wish to ignore is that the founders firmly believed that the individual states would govern the people, care for their needs, and adjudicate their grievances. The federal government was necessary to bind these individual, soverign states together, provide collective defense, and deal with foreigners. The tasks assigned to the federal government were clearly defined in the Constitution, and all other tasks were left to the individual states and/or the people themselves.

The first attacks on these founding principles took place in 1913, with passage of two major amendments. Creation of the income tax, and direct election of senators.

We have been slowly going downhill since.

Hmm...