Rep. Ryan (R) sells Repub voters down the river

[Dot Com]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

 

[Stephanie]

that must be organismic for you slaves to the Democrats. that's why they crap all over you all too. they know they can

 

[Dot Com]

deflect much Tubby..... errr.....Stephie? Care to address the topic?

 

[The Rabbi]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

 

[bendog]

Well, if Harry honors his promise to not gum up appropriations bills, it may not be a bad compromise for the gop. The tea party had no leverage because McConnell said there would not be any shutdown. So, if push came to shove, the Senate would have passed a bill that funded govt through the elections, and probably without any poison pills that would keep Obama from signing it. So, Ryan's options were to not even bring up a bill that didn't have TP support in his caucus, and that would have shutdown the govt, which is not good for gop potus candidates, OR compromising.

However, I put up a link to Frum's long essay on "where goest the GOP" And he suggests that the gop may accept tax cuts for the rich in exchange for perpetually losing the WH, but maintaining power in the House
The Great Republican Revolt

 

[bendog]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

I'm surprised you're not putting out kindling by a stake with Ryan's name on it.

 

[The Rabbi]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

I'm surprised you're not putting out kindling by a stake with Ryan's name on it.

Im surprised you can still type in a straitjacket.

 

[bendog]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

I'm surprised you're not putting out kindling by a stake with Ryan's name on it.

Im surprised you can still type in a straitjacket.

you so clever. Moving to Israel soon?

 

[The Rabbi]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Fresh off a nearly $2 trillion government-funding and tax-cuts deal, both Ryan and Reid are sounding a rare note of cooperation in the midst of a highly partisan presidential election cycle.

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

I'm surprised you're not putting out kindling by a stake with Ryan's name on it.

Im surprised you can still type in a straitjacket.

you so clever. Moving to Israel soon?

Translation: Pwned again.
Now go fuck yourself and leave the adults to talk.

 

[PredFan]

Ryan most certainly sold the GOP down the river.

In so doing, he also sold the country down the river.

 

[bendog]

He made a deal w/ Sen Reid

Yahoo

Since you hate Ryan, and you hate the GOP, this news must make you feel terrific. So now do you think Ryan is one of the sane voices in the GOP?

I'm surprised you're not putting out kindling by a stake with Ryan's name on it.

Im surprised you can still type in a straitjacket.

you so clever. Moving to Israel soon?

Translation: Pwned again.
Now go fuck yourself and leave the adults to talk.

LOL. You can't even respond to the thread beyond a personal insult, and then insulted in return, you claim victory. How bibish fake rabbi.

 

[bendog]

Ryan most certainly sold the GOP down the river.

In so doing, he also sold the country down the river.

What was his option?

 

[PredFan]

Well, if Harry honors his promise to not gum up appropriations bills, it may not be a bad compromise for the gop. The tea party had no leverage because McConnell said there would not be any shutdown. So, if push came to shove, the Senate would have passed a bill that funded govt through the elections, and probably without any poison pills that would keep Obama from signing it. So, Ryan's options were to not even bring up a bill that didn't have TP support in his caucus, and that would have shutdown the govt, which is not good for gop potus candidates, OR compromising.

However, I put up a link to Frum's long essay on "where goest the GOP" And he suggests that the gop may accept tax cuts for the rich in exchange for perpetually losing the WH, but maintaining power in the House
The Great Republican Revolt

Here's the thing that you democrats can't understand. You believe that winning is all that matters. I'm sure that Ryan and the mainstream GOP also think that way. We conservatives don't think that way. We understand the economical damage that this budget bill will cause and we know you democrats aren't smart enough to understand but when a so called Republican does it we get pissed. He should know better. We like to do the right thing even if it costs us votes.

 

[PredFan]

Ryan most certainly sold the GOP down the river.

In so doing, he also sold the country down the river.

What was his option?

Shoot it down, make them do it over, fix it! Balance the budget. There were lots of options.

 

[bendog]

Well, if Harry honors his promise to not gum up appropriations bills, it may not be a bad compromise for the gop. The tea party had no leverage because McConnell said there would not be any shutdown. So, if push came to shove, the Senate would have passed a bill that funded govt through the elections, and probably without any poison pills that would keep Obama from signing it. So, Ryan's options were to not even bring up a bill that didn't have TP support in his caucus, and that would have shutdown the govt, which is not good for gop potus candidates, OR compromising.

However, I put up a link to Frum's long essay on "where goest the GOP" And he suggests that the gop may accept tax cuts for the rich in exchange for perpetually losing the WH, but maintaining power in the House
The Great Republican Revolt

Here's the thing that ypou denicrats can't understand. You believe that winning is all that matters. I'm sure that Ryan and the mainstream GOP also think that way. We conservatives don't think that way. We understand the economical damage that this budget bill will cause and we know you democrats aren't smart enough to understand but when a so called Republican does it we get pissed. He should know better. We like to do the right thing even if it costs us votes.

I'm not a dem, but when your response begins with a personal insult it generally reflects you are not a serious person. But, you never responded substantively, which is not surprising.

But what should Ryan have done, and what would have been the likely political, or budgetary outcomes?

 

[g5000]

BWA-HA-HA-HA! The rubes think Ryan sold us down the river. You mean you are just now noticing?

The GOP has been selling out for DECADES. It's what you tards demanded. Style over substance. Principles shminciples.

 

[bendog]

BWA-HA-HA-HA! The rubes think Ryan sold us down the river. You mean you are just now noticing?

The GOP has been selling out for DECADES. It's what you tards demanded. Style over substance. Principles shminciples.

Ah, but aren't the gop elite calling for the sellout as well .... if not even more than the DLC wing of the dems?

 

[bendog]

OK, I'll answer, but in doing so plagerize Frum's piece that I linked elsewhere.


Mend Obamacare rather than end it by squeezing providers not young workers. Cut taxes less at the top, and use the money to deliver more benefits to working families in the middle. Devise immigration policy to support wages, and avoid race and culture war. Worry more about regulations that artificially transfer wealth upward, and not so much regulate Wall St. Take infrastructure seriously (yes that means you Chris Christie). Take seriously issues nursing-home costs, and the anticompetitive practices that inflate college tuition. Care more about aligning government with their values of work and family than they care about cutting the size of government as an end in itself. Recognize that the gimmick of mobilizing the base with culture-war outrages stopped working at least a decade ago.

 

[bendog]

Fake Rabbi meme, when stumped, insult. When insulted in return, claim victory. So bibish.

 

[PredFan]

Well, if Harry honors his promise to not gum up appropriations bills, it may not be a bad compromise for the gop. The tea party had no leverage because McConnell said there would not be any shutdown. So, if push came to shove, the Senate would have passed a bill that funded govt through the elections, and probably without any poison pills that would keep Obama from signing it. So, Ryan's options were to not even bring up a bill that didn't have TP support in his caucus, and that would have shutdown the govt, which is not good for gop potus candidates, OR compromising.

However, I put up a link to Frum's long essay on "where goest the GOP" And he suggests that the gop may accept tax cuts for the rich in exchange for perpetually losing the WH, but maintaining power in the House
The Great Republican Revolt

Here's the thing that ypou denicrats can't understand. You believe that winning is all that matters. I'm sure that Ryan and the mainstream GOP also think that way. We conservatives don't think that way. We understand the economical damage that this budget bill will cause and we know you democrats aren't smart enough to understand but when a so called Republican does it we get pissed. He should know better. We like to do the right thing even if it costs us votes.

I'm not a dem, but when your response begins with a personal insult it generally reflects you are not a serious person. But, you never responded substantively, which is not surprising.

But what should Ryan have done, and what would have been the likely political, or budgetary outcomes?

Actually it was a typo that I corrected too late apparently. It was not an insult.