Report: Israel :*Amnesty International condemns Barak’s rejection of Syrian refugees

[Kondor3]

Will Israel Accept Syrian Refugees?

Seems unlikely. They've already got way too many Muslims in their midst to be safe. Plenty of room in Lebanon or Jordan or Turkey for those folk. And the last thing in the world that Israel is going to want to do is to flood the Golan Heights with Syrians, as a population-pressure sort of back-door sneaky way of taking back the Golan, which Israel needs in order to maintain a defensible and advantageous northeastern frontier border with Syria.

 

[Alfalfa]

Israel has spent 65 years running the injuns off the land, they're not about to let all that hard work go down the drain because there are a few problems on the reservations.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel has spent 65 years running the injuns off the land, their not about to let all that hard work go down the drain because there are a few problems on the reservations.

That is an accurate assessment.

 

[Roudy]

Will Israel Accept Syrian Refugees?

"The Israeli Druze community*is now pressuring the government*to accept Syrian Druze refugees."

Will Israel Accept Syrian Refugees? | World Affairs Journal

So Israel has a *Druze Community* and an *Arab Muslim Community* (number 1.8 million), with the exact same rights as other *Israeli Citizens* and with as much voice as the rest of the *Israeli Communities*. Unlike Palestinian Muslims and other neighboring Arab Muslims who regularly oppress and persecute their minority communities.

Bravo Israel, the only real democracy in the region.

 

[Roudy]

Israel has spent 65 years running the injuns off the land, their not about to let all that hard work go down the drain because there are a few problems on the reservations.

Wrong comparison. Arabs are the recent invaders. The land is Jewish ancestral homeland.

 

[proudveteran06]

So, when Israel gets a blockade they can go to war.

When Gaza gets a blockade they have to sit on their hands.

Tell us please why Egypt initiated the blockade? If the Palestinians acted like Civilized Human Beings instead of the Savages they are; if Rocket fire stopped ( It actually increased after Israeli withdrawal ) , and they weren't smuggling weapons the " blockade" would no longer exist . BTW. Israel will never " surrender" I guess that means more Palestinian kids will die . OK WITH ME !!

Israel imposes a Blockade on Gaza and that imposition of a Blockade is collective punishment on a civilian population and a war crime.

You seem really confused about what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some English lessons and educate yourself about the Truth of what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some comprehension courses and educate yourself . " Palestine" doesn't exist. If the Arabs had any respect for " International Law" they wouldn't have initiated the 67 War . If the Arabs had won Israel would not exist today. " Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence .

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tell us please why Egypt initiated the blockade? If the Palestinians acted like Civilized Human Beings instead of the Savages they are; if Rocket fire stopped ( It actually increased after Israeli withdrawal ) , and they weren't smuggling weapons the " blockade" would no longer exist . BTW. Israel will never " surrender" I guess that means more Palestinian kids will die . OK WITH ME !!

Israel imposes a Blockade on Gaza and that imposition of a Blockade is collective punishment on a civilian population and a war crime.

You seem really confused about what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some English lessons and educate yourself about the Truth of what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some comprehension courses and educate yourself . " Palestine" doesn't exist. If the Arabs had any respect for " International Law" they wouldn't have initiated the 67 War . If the Arabs had won Israel would not exist today. " Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence .

What international law did the Palestinians violate?

"Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence.

Of course you have to say that. Israel is illegal from top to bottom. There is nothing legal about it.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Israel is illegal from top to bottom. There is nothing legal about it."

Maybe the Palestinians should have stood and fought, like the Jews did, rather than running, in 1948, and leaving it to their mercenary Arab neighbors to fight for them?

When you don't take a stand, and fight for your land, you lose it, forevermore, as spoils of war.

Concepts like 'Legal' and 'Fair' have very little to do with it, when you're part of a religious belief-system that has been persecuted for 2,000 years and when 6,000,000 of your kinfolk have just been slaughtered, without the world lifting so much as a finger to stop it, and you're desperate for even one single place in all the world to call home, and your own, and when you've got hundreds of thousands of Holocaust refugees waiting in camps for such a place to materialize.

The Jews learned the bitter lesson before re-birthing Israel, that they were still on their own in the modern world, despite all the high-sounding 'international law' happy horseshit, so they hardened their hearts, rediscovered a collective will and courage, and proceeded to act in the Old Way, and took back what once was theirs, against very long odds.

Thumbing their noses at the whiners and case-pleaders, and, because of what The West had put them through in the 1940s, The West is letting them get away with it - a free pass to circumvent various aspects of 'international law' for as long as it takes to complete the job of re-acquiring all of their old lands (river to sea), while The West looks the other way, as a long-term and unspoken (but very real) penance or mea culpa for the Holocaust.

The Israelis' bottom-line message in modern times seems to be:

Fair? Screw that. Legal? Screw that too. Where were 'Fair' and 'Legal' during the Holocaust? Where was the world while we were being slaughtered by the millions? Fuck that.

Never again. We have a land of our own now; one we used to own, thousands of years ago. Want the land back? Come and take it. If you can. If you dare. If not, piss off.

 

[Alfalfa]

"...Israel is illegal from top to bottom. There is nothing legal about it."

Maybe the Palestinians should have stood and fought, like the Jews did, rather than running, in 1948 and leaving it to their mercenary Arab neighbors to fight for them?

When you don't take a stand, and fight for your land, you lose it, forevermore, as spoils of war.

Concepts like 'Legal' and 'Fair' have very little to do with it, when you're part of a religious belief-system that has been persecuted for 2,000 years and when 6,000,000 of your kinfolk have just been slaughtered, without the world lifting so much as a finger to stop it, and you're desperate for even one single place in all the world to call home, and your own, and when you've got hundreds of thousands of Holocaust refugees waiting in camps for such a place to materialize.

The Jews learned the bitter lesson before re-birthing Israel, that they were still on their own in the modern world, despite all the high-sounding 'international law' happy horseshit, so they hardened their hearts, rediscovered a collective will and courage, and proceeded to act in the Old Way, and took back what once was theirs, against very long odds.

Thumbing their noses at the whiners and case-pleaders, and, because of what The West had put them through in the 1940s, The West is letting them get away with it - a free pass to circumvent various aspects of 'international law' for as long as it takes to complete the job of re-acquiring all of their old lands (river to sea), while The West looks the other way, as a long-term and unspoken (but very real) penance or mea culpa for the Holocaust.

The Israelis' bottom-line message in modern times seems to be:

Fair? Screw that. Legal? Screw that too. Where were 'Fair' and 'Legal' during the Holocaust? Where was the world while we were being slaughtered by the millions? Fuck that.

Never again. We have a land of our own now; one we used to own, thousands of years ago. Want the land back? Come and take it. If you can. If you dare. If not, piss off.

A sterling example of zionist hubris and arrogance...not to mention hasbara lies.

You ask why the palis didn't stand and fight, why didn't european jews stand and fight the nazis?

You say "without the world lifting so much as a finger to stop it"...weird, is hitler and the nazis still in power? I could have sworn millions of allied soldiers died defeating the nazis and liberating the camps.

This is the thanks one gets from jews. Every dead british, american and russian WWII soldier spits on you.

 

[Sunni Man]

"Remember the Holocaust" the illogical fall back position of the fascist Israeli juden when confronted with their crimes against humanity. ....

 

[Alfalfa]

"Remember the Holocaust" the illogical fall back position of the fascist Israeli juden when confronted with their crimes against humanity. ....

Doesn't one good crime against humanity deserve another?

 

[Kondor3]

"...A sterling example of zionist hubris and arrogance...not to mention hasbara lies..."

Yeppers. Hubris and arrogance. Convenient, when that aligns with the actual state of affairs in the Real World, isn't it? Much more fun that way.

But I don't see any lies within that op-ed piece. Feel free to point them out. I'd be genuinely interested to see what you perceive as 'lies' in that very modest narrative.

As to 'hasbara' - hell, I had to look that up when I first encountered the term, on this very board system, some months ago. I thought somebody had misspelled 'Hasbro' - you know, the American toy and game manufacturer.

And then it learned that, generically used, the term simply meant 'Explanation', or, in this context, 'Israeli-favorable information and propaganda'.

OK... it's 'Hasbara'... coming from a lapsed Catholic... so what? Big friggin' deal.

We have a label for pro-Palestinian propaganda, too; it's called Camel Shit.

"...You ask why the palis didn't stand and fight, why didn't european jews stand and fight the nazis?"

Ummmmm... because they were too chickenshit to stand their ground, and paid for that cowardice and sheepish behavior by being slaughtered in their millions; at least until the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943?

The Jews sure learned a lesson about the consequences of cowardice and sheepish behaviors from all that, and put that lesson to very good use, only a few years later in 1948, didn't they?

The Palestinians were taught a much milder version of that same lesson which allowed almost all of them to survive, albeit as refugees who ran, and they and their children and grandchildren continue to pay for that cowardice of 1948, some 65 years later.

The Palestinians had a great many advantages with respect to conjuring-up and manifesting an armed resistance than the Jews of Europe never had, but that's another conversation, and I gave you the short, visceral, on-topic and in-character answer that my own earlier op-ed had triggered by causing you to ask that question.

 

[High_Gravity]

Report: Israel :*Amnesty International condemns Barak’s rejection of Syrian refugees

"The international human rights group Amnesty International has condemned the Israeli defence minister Ehud Barak’s statements that Israel will act to prevent a “flood” of refugees into the Golan Heights.They urged Israel to afford protection to refugees entering the occupied Golan Heights and to prevent their forced return."

Amnesty International condemns Barak?s rejection of Syrian refugees - Report: Israel - RFI


Here is the Truth exposed by Amnesty International!

Israel refuses to aid Syrian refugees .

Were those refugees smuggling sperm?

 

[Kondor3]

"Remember the Holocaust" the illogical fall back position of the fascist Israeli juden when confronted with their crimes against humanity. ....

I can see why they play that card; because it's very Real to them; in memory and in policy and practice. And isn't it amazing how well and how long that poker-hand has continued to work for them, and how well it will continue to work for them, until they have completed the recapture of their spiritual and ancestral homeland? I can certainly understand how this vexes The Opposition but it's how the Israelis play poker, and it works very well. Because it's true. Oh, if only you had a better poker-hand yourselves, eh?!!! Sounds like playing-card envy! Don't like the way the game's going? Fold.

 

[Sunni Man]

"Remember the Holocaust" the illogical fall back position of the fascist Israeli juden when confronted with their crimes against humanity. ....

I can see why they play that card; because it's very Real to them; in memory and in policy and practice. And isn't it amazing how well and how long that poker-hand has continued to work well for them, and how well it will continue to work well for them, until they have completed the recapture of their spiritual and ancestral homeland? I can certainly understand how this vexes The Opposition but it's how the Israelis play poker, and it works very well.

But the game isn't over and the zionists will lose it all in the end. ....

 

[High_Gravity]

Israel imposes a Blockade on Gaza and that imposition of a Blockade is collective punishment on a civilian population and a war crime.

You seem really confused about what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some English lessons and educate yourself about the Truth of what is happening today in Palestine.

Do us all a favor, take some comprehension courses and educate yourself . " Palestine" doesn't exist. If the Arabs had any respect for " International Law" they wouldn't have initiated the 67 War . If the Arabs had won Israel would not exist today. " Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence .

What international law did the Palestinians violate?

"Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence.

Of course you have to say that. Israel is illegal from top to bottom. There is nothing legal about it.

How does a country become "legal"?

 

[Kondor3]

But the game isn't over and the zionists will lose it all in the end.

So you keep saying.

Wake me up when we get close.

 

[Kondor3]

"...How does a country become 'legal'?"

According the the Extreme Literalists amongst us, as of 1945, when the UN Charter was signed, the number of countries in the world and all borders were frozen forevermore, because War had suddenly been outlawed and land-acquisition through military conquest had suddenly been outlawed.

Mind you, scores of preexisting nations all around the world were entitled to keep what they already had in their possession because they had completed their own conquests BEFORE the 1945 Charter...

So anybody wanting to form a country and who needed to kick a little ass in order to pull it off - AFTER the 1945 Charter went into effect - was S(hit)-O(ut)-of-L(uck), including the Jews.

Given that the Jews had just had 6,000,000 of their own slaughtered, during a period in time when the world didn't lift a finger to stop it, and when 'international law' of the time was about as useful in saving the Jews as a roll of toilet paper, well...

The Jews decided to do what most folks would probably do after experiencing large-scale genocide efforts against them - taking their Fate and Survival into the own hands, and carving out a place for themselves in the world - challengers be damned.

When your choices are 'Survival' or 'Legality', well... Survival wins-out every time, as it must.

Any man who calls himself a man - any people who can call themselves a people - would probably have behaved in a largely similar fashion, after experiencing such a trauma.

And they're being allowed to complete the process, because The West figured they deserved a break for once, and figured they'ed earned enough latitude to finish the job.

That 'being allowed' includes The West looking the other way , with respect to Legalities, until the Jews have completed their recapture of their old lands; from river to sea.

Or so it seems to this observer.

 

[toastman]

"Remember the Holocaust" the illogical fall back position of the fascist Israeli juden when confronted with their crimes against humanity. ....

I can see why they play that card; because it's very Real to them; in memory and in policy and practice. And isn't it amazing how well and how long that poker-hand has continued to work well for them, and how well it will continue to work well for them, until they have completed the recapture of their spiritual and ancestral homeland? I can certainly understand how this vexes The Opposition but it's how the Israelis play poker, and it works very well.

But the game isn't over and the zionists will lose it all in the end. ....

Of course they will

Another sad Muslim who can't handle the fact that Israel exists

 

[toastman]

Do us all a favor, take some comprehension courses and educate yourself . " Palestine" doesn't exist. If the Arabs had any respect for " International Law" they wouldn't have initiated the 67 War . If the Arabs had won Israel would not exist today. " Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence .

What international law did the Palestinians violate?

"Intrrnational Law" doesn't apply to Israel's existence.

Of course you have to say that. Israel is illegal from top to bottom. There is nothing legal about it.

How does a country become "legal"?

Don't bother with Tinmore. He's got to be the most misinformed poster here concerning Israel. He just makes stuff up as he goes along