Republican Senators send a letter to Iran. Wow. Damn!

Well let's see.......

Beheading people, nope.
Burning people up....nope.
Stoning women.....nope.
BLowing innocent people all to hell....nope.

Nope, I'm good.
And you're a fuckin' liar!

Do you know what happens to someone's head when they're struck by a missile from a Predator drone? Do you know how badly bodies were burned in Fallujah when we hit them with a little Willie Peat? Innocent people were blown all to hell in Gaza, you didn't mind that?

So yeah, you are responsible.
 
Well let's see.......

Beheading people, nope.
Burning people up....nope.
Stoning women.....nope.
BLowing innocent people all to hell....nope.

Nope, I'm good.
And you're a fuckin' liar!

Do you know what happens to someone's head when they're struck by a missile from a Predator drone? Do you know how badly bodies were burned in Fallujah when we hit them with a little Willie Peat? Innocent people were blown all to hell in Gaza, you didn't mind that?

So yeah, you are responsible.

I don't give a shit what happens to a bunch of illiterate Radical Islamists, they've earned everything they've gotten.

(shrugs) If you feel that strongly pussy boy go help them.
No?

I didn't think so.
 
It's not a problem for you. You'd like to see it. You're on the same page with the mullahs. Maybe you should convert?

Yes, when you go live next to people who WANT TO KILL YOU for STEALING THEIR LAND, you really don't get a lot of sypmathy from me.
Same ole stealing land BS, as usual from those who would rather see Israel driven into the sea and destroyed............Doesn't hold any water with me, nor the truth................as the Jews have as much right to these lands as the arabs do.......................

And if they really wanted to attack those that stole their land they should look to Jordan who took control of most of the original Mandate. Upon the creation of Israel Jordan occupied the disputed areas, as did Egypt during the War even though Israel eventually Won the War.............

It was Jordan and Egypt that set up the Ghettos and didn't officially claim the land for themselves as their National boundaries...............Most of Israel, 60%, was desert.............and not really claimed by any............Not to mention that the Jews were driven as refugees out of Arab lands shortly before the war started........There were more Jews in Jerusalum at that time than arabs............roughly 800,000 Jews were driven from their homes. People like you are never interested in that side of the story.............

In the 2 Wars to follow.........Israel defeated Syria and Egypt both times eventually taking the land by force in the War..............YET THEY GAVE IT BACK...........Only to be forced to go back in to these zones because of repeated attacks from these areas............

Under agreements in these areas, Israel leaves on several occasions only to be attacked from these positions again. With the exception of the Golan heights because they refused to give up these defensive positions...........

Your ignorance of History, and total backing of the LIE of Stolen land is typical of those who would like the slaughter of the Jews................Just as Hitler did...............Just as the Grand Mufti did............as his arab forces helped the SLAUGHTER OF ETHNIC minorities in Bosnia during WWII.
 
Hello? Best you pay ATTENTION to what is happening!

again, can't get worked up because the Persians have a bomb.
I can, because they can't be trusted with the bomb as they are a country that openly supports Terrorism.........who via proxy attack Israel every day...........who assisted their proxy troops to KILL AMERICANS in both Iraq and Afghanistan during these Wars..............of which one is still ongoing.............

We are cutting a deal................WITH a country that SENDS OR MEN AND WOMEN HOME IN BOXES..................

THAT'S BS.
 
I don't give a shit what happens to a bunch of illiterate Radical Islamists, they've earned everything they've gotten.

(shrugs) If you feel that strongly pussy boy go help them.
No?

I didn't think so.
You call them illiterate, yet speak of "them", like they are one entity, with one mind set and one goal. When it comes to being illiterate, there is no better example than you hayseed-dickboy-inbred-rednecks walking around in your wife-beaters.

 
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that SENDS OR MEN AND WOMEN HOME IN BOXES..................

Do you have any reliable confirmed reports of such a claim?
I've seen that data from the Commanding Generals of the Wars and lower commanders saying the same.........whether under Obama the CIA or CENTCOM have officially reported it would need to be dug for.............

But I've seen enough over time to believe it..............as they do it to Israel all the time.
 
CONGRESSIONAL REPORT..............

http://www.defense.gov/pubs/pdfs/Petraeus-Testimony20070910.pdf

In the past six months we have also targeted Shia militia extremists, capturing a number of senior leaders and fighters, as well as the deputy commander of Lebanese Hezbollah Department 2800, the organization created to support the training, arming, funding, and, in some cases, direction of the militia extremists by the Iranian Republican Guard Corps’ Qods Force. These elements have assassinated and kidnapped Iraqi governmental leaders, killed and wounded our soldiers with advanced explosive devices provided by Iran, and indiscriminately rocketed civilians in the International Zone and elsewhere. It is increasingly apparent to both Coalition and Iraqi leaders that Iran, through the use of the Qods Force, seeks to turn the Iraqi Special Groups into a Hezbollah-like force to serve its interests and fight a proxy war against the Iraqi state and coalition forces in Iraq.
 
As I've already stated..............we are cutting a Fing Deal with a country that has helped send our MEN HOME IN BODY BAGS............................

It is BS.
 
Has anyone mentioned in this thread that the LETTER was never sent to Iran, but simply posted on the Senator's website?
Haven't seen that information posted...................

It's not really an issue though...........as the Senators knew Iran would see it....................

They wanted Iran to know their stance..................and I have no problem with it...........we are trying to cut a deal with a country that will never honor it anyway...................and a country that has assisted those in combat with our military..............and in direct combat with Quds forces throughout the War.
 
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"Iranian military advisors rubbed shoulders with U.S. military personnel in the Northern Alliance areas. Tehran even said it would give sanctuary for distressed U.S. military personnel inside its territory. It also allowed the United States to transport humanitarian goods to Afghanistan through Iranian land. Iran reportedly suggested the best targets for U.S. bombers.

"U.S. and Iranian envoys worked together at the conference--the most fruitful encounter between the two since the 1979 revolution. Both wanted Afghanistan free of the Taliban and al Qaeda. " See PBS Link below:

It's too bad what Bush did to that relationship:

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I've seen that data...

Good for you. Let's see the data.

The overall history of Iranian involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan does explain why Bush allied the US military operation in Iraq with the Quds Force trained militias that came into Iraq in 2003 along with the guy holding hands with Bush in this photo :


Home > News & Policies > December 2006

President Bush Meets with His Eminence Abdul-Aziz Al-Hakim, Leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq
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President George W. Bush welcomes Sayyed Abdul-Aziz Al-Hakim, Leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, to the White House Monday, Dec. 4, 2006. Said the President, "I appreciate so very much His Eminence's commitment to a unity government. I assured him the United States supports his work and the work of the Prime Minister to unify the country." White House photo by Eric Draper

President Bush Meets with His Eminence Abdul-Aziz Al-Hakim Leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq

That' is who brought Iran trained Badr a Militia into Iraq.

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Iran and the Taliban

Amid the chaos, the Taliban, an obscure group of young Pushtun religious students, rose to power. Their ideology was a strange combination of Wahhabism and Deobandism. Iran was astonishingly slow to recognize the Taliban's dazzling rise and the pivotal support provided by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. In 1995, Herat fell to the Taliban, and a year later, they overthrew President Rabbani--a major defeat for Iran and a clear victory for Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Iran, unlike Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, refused to recognize the Taliban, and sought to return Rabbani to power. It participated in the U.N. "Six Plus Two" talks on Afghanistan's future, but Iran's strategic investment was to generously support the Northern Alliance made up of Tajiks, Uzbeks and Shiite fighters. India and Russia supported the alliance, but Iran was its principle source of military assistance.

Broken relations

Iranian support for the Northern Alliance, the Taliban's most formidable rival, created serious animosity between Tehran and Kabul. They severed diplomatic relations in 1997. Iran accused the Taliban of being "narco-terrorists," whose antediluvian ideology and draconian laws made Afghanistan a huge prison. Iran's relations with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia also deteriorated.

Iran provided key support for the Northern Alliance when the Taliban tried to capture its interim capital at Mazar-e Sharif. The Taliban initially was pushed back. But with Pakistani support, the Taliban ultimately prevailed, killing more than 2,000 people. They also kidnapped and killed eight Iranian diplomats and one journalist, which led Iran and Afghanistan dangerously close to war. Tehran massed some 200,000 troops on its eastern border, but the threat only made the Taliban more belligerent. They raided Iran's cultural center in Mazar-e Sharif and set its library ablaze. Thereafter, Tehran increased support for the Northern Alliance while the Taliban ruled most of Afghanistan.

Washington's gift

After al Qaeda's 9/11 attacks, Iran was the recipient of an unintended strategic gift from Washington. The Taliban, who had developed a symbiotic relationship with al Qaeda, were forcefully removed from power after the United States provided air power and intelligence for the Northern Alliance, Iran's ally. Iranian military advisors rubbed shoulders with U.S. military personnel in the Northern Alliance areas. Tehran even said it would give sanctuary for distressed U.S. military personnel inside its territory. It also allowed the United States to transport humanitarian goods to Afghanistan through Iranian land. Iran reportedly suggested the best targets for U.S. bombers.

Iran also participated in the U.S.-sponsored Bonn Conference in December 2001. U.S. and Iranian envoys worked together at the conference--the most fruitful encounter between the two since the 1979 revolution. Both wanted Afghanistan free of the Taliban and al Qaeda. Iran favored the return of President Rabbani, but it agreed to support U.S.-backed Hamid Karzai. The tactical cooperation between the United States and Iran continued, even as they were competing for greater influence in a new Afghanistan. Iranian cooperation with the United States ended in 2002, after President George Bush cited Iran as a member of the "axis of evil."

Iran and the new Afghanistan

Iran has four major goals in Afghanistan:

* To collaborate with Karzai without abandoning supports for other Afghan allies

* To invest in Afghan reconstruction to create a "sphere of influence" and a security zone in the Herat region

* To avoid direct confrontation with the United States, while pressuring Kabul to distance itself from the United States and insure that Afghanistan is not used to attack Iran


Read more: Iran Primer Iran and Afghanistan - Tehran Bureau FRONTLINE PBS


With regard to Iraq do you consider this to be clear cut data or propaganda?

. Iran’s leaders took two lessons from the Iran-Iraq War. The first was that Iran was surrounded by enemies, near and far. To the regime, the invasion was not so much an Iraqi plot as a Western one. American officials were aware of Saddam’s preparations to invade Iran in 1980, and they later provided him with targeting information used in chemical-weapons attacks; the weapons themselves were built with the help of Western European firms. The memory of these attacks is an especially bitter one. “Do you know how many people are still suffering from the effects of chemical weapons?” Mehdi Khalaji, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said. “Thousands of former soldiers. They believe these were Western weapons given to Saddam.” In 1987, during a battle with the Iraqi Army, a division under Suleimani’s command was attacked by artillery shells containing chemical weapons. More than a hundred of his men suffered the effects.

The Shadow Commander - The New Yorker
 
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I don't give a shit what happens to a bunch of illiterate Radical Islamists, they've earned everything they've gotten.

(shrugs) If you feel that strongly pussy boy go help them.
No?

I didn't think so.
You call them illiterate, yet speak of "them", like they are one entity, with one mind set and one goal. When it comes to being illiterate, there is no better example than you hayseed-dickboy-inbred-rednecks walking around in your wife-beaters.

Too funny kid.

Radical Islam IS a"them".

Did you actually PAY for your education?

Whatever they charged you was too much.
 
Hello? Best you pay ATTENTION to what is happening!

again, can't get worked up because the Persians have a bomb.
I can, because they can't be trusted with the bomb as they are a country that openly supports Terrorism.........who via proxy attack Israel every day...........who assisted their proxy troops to KILL AMERICANS in both Iraq and Afghanistan during these Wars..............of which one is still ongoing.............

We are cutting a deal................WITH a country that SENDS OR MEN AND WOMEN HOME IN BOXES..................

THAT'S BS.

Joe actually wants Iran to have two bombs. One for Tel Aviv, one for Salt Lake City. He's liberal you know, you can tell from his tolerance
 
Republicans Warn Iran -- and Obama -- That Deal Won t Last - Bloomberg View

A group of 47 Republican senators has written an open letter to Iran's leaders warning them that any nuclear deal they sign with President Barack Obama's administration won’t last after Obama leaves office.
Organized by freshman Senator Tom Cotton and signed by the chamber's entire party leadership as well as potential 2016 presidential contenders Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, the letter is meant not just to discourage the Iranian regime from signing a deal but also to pressure the White House into giving Congress some authority over the process.

“It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system … Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement,” the senators wrote. “The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.”

Arms-control advocates and supporters of the negotiations argue that the next president and the next Congress will have a hard time changing or canceling any Iran deal -- -- which is reportedly near done -- especially if it is working reasonably well.

Well, this is new, even in the world of the GOP batshit-crazy. This really does one-up it all. It's also kind of funny that there is a constitutional error in what the Senators wrote to the government of Iran. The Senate does NOT ratify treaties. That is even indicated directly on their Senate website. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification” . It's a fine point, almost splitting hairs, but worth noting.

So, Republicans hate this Democratic President so much that they are even willing to pen a letter to someone they consider an enemy of ours.


Back to the Bloomberg link:

It's stunning. And it's a rebuke on an international stage that doesn't really have a precedent. Imagine Democrats micro-managing the START talks in the 80s by sending an open letter to Gorbachev? It just wouldn't have been viewed as an acceptable political move while the talks were still happening.

The only conclusion we can make is that the GOP is not the loyal opposition, it is a severly disloyal opposition and deserves to be treated with disdain and contempt for such unamerican behavior. The GOP simply hates America, it's that simple.


This differs from Obama going directly to the Iranian people HOW?????
 
Same ole stealing land BS, as usual from those who would rather see Israel driven into the sea and destroyed............Doesn't hold any water with me, nor the truth................as the Jews have as much right to these lands as the arabs do.......................

And if they really wanted to attack those that stole their land they should look to Jordan who took control of most of the original Mandate. Upon the creation of Israel Jordan occupied the disputed areas, as did Egypt during the War even though Israel eventually Won the War.............

It was Jordan and Egypt that set up the Ghettos and didn't officially claim the land for themselves as their National boundaries...............Most of Israel, 60%, was desert

Yup, the usual Zionist myths. We made a desert bloom, there was no one living there until we got there, the usual horseshit. them Arabs are just attacking us because they are mean old anti-Semites.
 

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