Republicans can’t seem to accurately define what socialism is

[francoHFW]

About two years ago I checked, and found about 170 types of socialism. I wonder if that list has grown? The one that Republicans love and pretend is the only type, is Marx's Scientific Socialism, and the USSR dropped that type almost as soon as a the Revolution had ended.

Catholic charities and donations should take care of the poor. Hand outs from government are wrong

Doesn't work, dries up when actually needed.

 

[BlackSand]

35 years of GOP Pander to the rich tax rates and policy have gotten us to this point. They blocked everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA and maybe that too.

Any legislation the Republicans or Democrats in Washington DC have provided you with in the last 70 years is a steaming pile of horse shit used to pander to one special interest or another.

You fucking deserve the pile of crap in your lap ... You asked for it.

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[Missouri_Mike]

Communism is a dictatorship where all business and industry is owned by the government. DUH!!!!! The GOP has the stupidest voters in the modern world. Okay brainwashed functional stupid...

All of which started with democratic socialism. They all had to expand to communism. They ran out of other peoples money.

Absolute b*******. The Soviet Union communist China had been absolutely corrupt capitalist messes. No country has gone to Communism without a violent Revolution. You're a brainwashed idiot.

So they were succesful countries until they became communist? And by your own admission they had to become communist by violent revolution. I have to agree. Communism never is introduced to any country without massive death. You have to have a lot of slaves in communism, and many need to die in order to support this system and eliminate anyone that thinks outside the socialist/communist box. We all know your favored system of government means there has to be a violent revolution. Many die, all get to live in further poverty than they were promised. All socialist/communist countries promise the poor the life of a rich person to get the votes. They never deliver that.

 

[jc456]

Dude, there is no way we’re going near your hell!

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Without rich there’ is no middle class!

 

[francoHFW]

Stay in your idiot GOP propaganda bubble then, brainwashed functional moron. Hardly a surprise when you're brainwashed and ignorant.

Dude, there is no way we’re going near your hell!

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

What is the definition of fair share?

More. Say 50% over 600000, 60% over a million. The only sure thing is more than what they pay now.

 

[Thinker101]

Dude, there is no way we’re going near your hell!

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

 

[Billy000]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

DERP

The control of the means of production by the state or central authority.

You are a dumb one, Comrade.

Uh no. You are deliberately lying because you looked up the definition. You know it actually says ownership by the citizens.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You didn't answer shit. The question was what is the difference between Hitler and Stalin. Be specific. The inane sweeping shit means shit

Theres quite a few differences but to keep it simple, mainly in who they hated/blamed. Stalin hated the wealthy and hitler hated the Jews.

Izatrite?


“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” – Gregor Strasser - OberFuhrer of the Gerrman National Socialist Workers Party, #2 to Adolf Hitler.


{. The theme was that the country’s values were being undermined by ‘rootless cosmopolitans.’ There was a particularly vicious assault on [Jewish] theater critics, eventually described as ‘an anti-party group.’ When their Russianized names or pseudonyms were given, the original Jewish name was printed in brackets, and papers asked how anyone so named could understand Russian culture. Meanwhile unpublicized arrests [of Jews], especially of writers in Yiddish, continued, and there was a general growth of public anti-Jewish pressure. Among those arrested at the end of 1948 was Polina Molotov.} - Stalin's Anti-Semitism

Hmmm, not exactly as you described this....

You do realize that you can be anti capitalist and socially conservative at the same time, right? Hitler's socialism is not the socialism of friggin' Denmark. Obviously.

Are you anti capitalist? I'm thinking maybe when your paycheck arrives you may be pro-capitalist because you didn't give half of your pay to people that didn't work

Mario Cuomo said Reagan made blaming the poor acceptable. Enjoy hell. More of your money goes to subsidizing the rich and giant corporations, Dupe.

The only person dumber than Mario Cuomo was a spurt from his balls and that is his kid.

 

[jc456]

About two years ago I checked, and found about 170 types of socialism. I wonder if that list has grown? The one that Republicans love and pretend is the only type, is Marx's Scientific Socialism, and the USSR dropped that type almost as soon as a the Revolution had ended.

Catholic charities and donations should take care of the poor. Hand outs from government are wrong

Doesn't work, dries up when actually needed.

No, no it doesn’t. No rich no money no money no life government doesn’t make money they only spend it without rich no government money then they can’t spend

 

[Missouri_Mike]

And you still bitch and whine like a little girl ...
You also have a very hard time understanding that we don't have to fit your fucked up vision of the way things really are.


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Stay in your idiot GOP propaganda bubble then, brainwashed functional moron. Hardly a surprise when you're brainwashed and ignorant.

Dude, there is no way we’re going near your hell!

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

How do you tax the rich and get a middle class? This seems to be the selling point of you left wing idiots but everywhere it's tried the middle class becomes the poor class.

 

[francoHFW]

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

Every other modern country does it, Dupe. And there are plenty of rich people in Germany and Sweden and France and Canada and Australia and Japan... Just not as obscene LOL.

 

[Thinker101]

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

Every other modern country does it, Dupe. And there are plenty of rich people in Germany and Sweden and France and Canada and Australia and Japan... Just not as obscene LOL.

Good thing you have the freedom to move to one of those countries.

 

[francoHFW]

Stay in your idiot GOP propaganda bubble then, brainwashed functional moron. Hardly a surprise when you're brainwashed and ignorant.

Dude, there is no way we’re going near your hell!

Yep, Fair wages, cheap education and Healthcare, good vacations paid parental leave would be just terrible horrible, Super Dupe.

Just for the heck of it, how do all these things get paid for?

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

How do you tax the rich and get a middle class? This seems to be the selling point of you left wing idiots but everywhere it's tried the middle class becomes the poor class.

That's what we have here now... Our inequality is the worst of all the successful countries, and our upward Mobility is also the worst now after 35 years of GOP Pander to the rich and screw everybody else. Open your eyes. also are median income is lower than anywhere else. It's a disgrace.

 

[regent]

The truth of the matter is that it is a very broad term. It’s something that’s always been apart of the framework of this country yet Repubs like to pretend it is the antithesis of the Founding Father’s philosophy. Republicans have a hard time even defining the term in their OWN WORDS. That alone tells you they lack a basic understanding of the word.

Citation needed. It looks to me like you're considering infrastructure as Socialist, despite that being totally false, and debunked by me the last time we discussed it.

There’s really no need to cite anything. Any program funded by tax payers is socialism. You will figure that out if you look up the actual definition. Our defense budget, for example, is the biggest socialist institution in the world. Lol and of course our infrastructure is socialist. It’s funded by tax payers.

There's not a modern country in the world that doesn't practice socialism in one form or other. Socialism bails out the capitalists pretty often... 1932, 2008. There will probably be another one before Trump finishes his term.

Socialism did not bail us out in 1932. In fact, it made the problem ten times worse.

Hoover tried socialism during his term with the RFC, The RFC loaned money to producers of various types if merchandise; merchandise that stores already could not sell, FDR put money into the rebuilding of America and feeding the hungry, and most importantly putting people to work.

 

[francoHFW]

By taxing the rich their fair share and having a healthy middle class d u h.

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

Every other modern country does it, Dupe. And there are plenty of rich people in Germany and Sweden and France and Canada and Australia and Japan... Just not as obscene LOL.

Good thing you have the freedom to move to one of those countries.

No you don't. I owned a bar in Spain and couldn't do it thing unless I married a Spanish woman...

 

[Thinker101]

Taxing the rich their fair share pays for all that?

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

Every other modern country does it, Dupe. And there are plenty of rich people in Germany and Sweden and France and Canada and Australia and Japan... Just not as obscene LOL.

Good thing you have the freedom to move to one of those countries.

No you don't. I owned a bar in Spain and couldn't do it thing unless I married a Spanish woman...

So what's the problem, you hate Spanish women or just women in general?

 

[francoHFW]

Slowly but surely. And a healthy middle class and working class helps too.

Hate to burst your bubble but if the rich pay "their fair share", which would have to be damn high to pay for all your freebies, kinda discourages most from wanting to be rich.

Every other modern country does it, Dupe. And there are plenty of rich people in Germany and Sweden and France and Canada and Australia and Japan... Just not as obscene LOL.

Good thing you have the freedom to move to one of those countries.

No you don't. I owned a bar in Spain and couldn't do it thing unless I married a Spanish woman...

So what's the problem, you hate Spanish women or just women in general?

I was hanging around with English women and English expats in general I didn't know any Spanish women. At the time England was in the common market but all the English women were illegal too.

 

[francoHFW]

35 years of GOP Pander to the rich tax rates and policy have gotten us to this point. They blocked everything Clinton and Obama wanted to do except ACA and maybe that too.

Any legislation the Republicans or Democrats in Washington DC have provided you with in the last 70 years is a steaming pile of horse shit used to pander to one special interest or another.

You fucking deserve the pile of crap in your lap ... You asked for it.

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So Medicare and Medicaid and civil rights unemployment insurance and welfare etc etc are all for special interests right LOL? All from Democrats. Raising the minimum wage Etc it just goes on and on. Free and cheap health care for many? You're ridiculous. as are all independents and Republicans....

 

[Billy000]

It's an oppressive economic construct that forcibly confiscates the property of some to give to others who didn't earn it. It's immoral and unethical and hardly surprising that you support it.

The very basic definition of the word has nothing to do with this. Socialism’s definition isn’t about authoritarianism.

But for it to sort of work socialism has to adopt authoritarian methods.

You aren’t wrong, but that is the nature of any government’s success.

 

[impuretrash]

Are you anti capitalist? I'm thinking maybe when your paycheck arrives you may be pro-capitalist because you didn't give half of your pay to people that didn't work

Why would you make that assumption? No, I'm not anti-capitalist. I'm no economist but of all the systems, capitalism is the one that makes the most sense to me. That doesn't mean I think it's perfect and incorruptible. Politics is a lot more complicated and nuanced than some people seem to believe.