Republicans Err To Block HEROES Act Entirely

[protectionist]

I sense that Trump and the Republicans might be making a serious mistake regarding the new Democrat plan (the HEROES Act) to stimulate the economy, and help economic victims of the coronavirus national emergency.

Republicans have been dismissing the legislation, which is due to be voted on in the House tomorrow, saying that it is "aspirational", a "recipe for a prolonged recession.”, and "dead on arrival in the Senate". I haven't read the 1815 page monstrosity of this bill, and sure, it's loaded with Democrat pork, and things unacceptable to Republicans, and probably most Americans. I shudder to think what is in the immigration section of the bill, but Republicans need to be wary here, and not be so totally dismissive.

Democrats are playing a shrewd game with the HEROES Act. It is more than just a $3 Trillion legislation. It is a 2020 election year ploy, that if Republican's don't watch out, could cost them the presidential election, and even the Senate as well in November.

A few things should be carefully noted about this bill >>>

1. Democrats are unlikely to be insistent about everything in the bill. The $3 Trillion price tag, and all the stuff packed into the bill are probably just a starting point for NEGOTIATION. Like if you sell a car, and you want $6,000 for it, you ask for $7,000, and then let the buyer talk you down to what you want.

2. Many Americans are still in dire need of the $1200 stimulus checks that are part of the bill.

3. In November, many VOTERS will be irritated if Republicans are the ones they will see as the killers of the bill, and reason why they didn't get another needed $1200 check. Not what Trump and Republicans facing re-election want. This isn't what you give your political opponents on a silver platter.

4. The $3 trillion, whittled down to $1.5 or so, is a lot of spending, but so will be the spending in the stores (aka the economy) that will result from it, giving a big, needed boost to businesses, and the economy.

5. The coronavirus pandemic has not reached its final stages, or anything near that. In just the last few days, US deaths increased from 75,000 to more than 82,000, and still much more needs to be done, Reopening the economy right now (the Republicans' primary solution) is highly desired, but it might just be too soon.

Pelosi defends $3T price tag of coronavirus relief bill

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday defended the $3 trillion price tag of the latest coronavirus relief bill, saying that “the American people are worth it.”

www.foxnews.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Remember, when Trump was canceling flight from China, Nancy was ordering souvenir Impeachment pens.

 

[candycorn]

There is a lot of aid to states.

It will be interesting to see which Red State governors object to aid when the blob signs off on it. I'm guessing none of them will.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Odd that Nancy held off delivering the Articles of Impeachment until 4 days AFTER the first Obama funded Wuhan flu death.

 

[protectionist]

Remember, when Trump was canceling flight from China, Nancy was ordering souvenir Impeachment pens.

And I'll guess she was ordering them from her pals in China.

 

[protectionist]

There is a lot of aid to states.

It will be interesting to see which Red State governors object to aid when the blob signs off on it. I'm guessing none of them will.

Republicans aren't objecting to "aid". They're objecting to a lot of wrong kind of aid, that Democrats are filling the bill with. The thing is, a lot of that is just dispensibles, Democrats use as bargaining chips. Republicans should be smart enough to see that, and not fall into a rather obvious political trap, in an election year.

I guess also that Red State governors won't object to aid (the right kind), and they shouldn't.

 

[wamose]

Calling this travesty the Heros Act is like calling China the peoples republic of China. The names are propaganda and have nothing to do with reality.

 

[protectionist]

Calling this travesty the Heros Act is like calling China the peoples republic of China. The names are propaganda and have nothing to do with reality.

The whole bill is a stretch of reality, and is designed to call Republicans in for negotiations. If they don't and just reject it entirely, Nancy Pelosi will have an early Christmas gift, she probably never would have expected.

 

[JoeB131]

Remember, when Trump was canceling flight from China, Nancy was ordering souvenir Impeachment pens.

And a lot of Republicans are wishing they signed on to impeachment right now, given how badly Trump is failing at the Covid response.

 

[wamose]

Calling this travesty the Heros Act is like calling China the peoples republic of China. The names are propaganda and have nothing to do with reality.

The whole bill is a stretch of reality, and is designed to call Republicans in for negotiations. If they don't and just reject it entirely, Nancy Pelosi will have an early Christmas gift, she probably never would have expected.

I know you're right and that's exactly what pisses me off. Having to accept what will be bad for our country because it's politically expedient is what makes politics such an evil profession. It would be nice if responsibility and integrity were put back into politics but that profession has been perverted so much that good, honest people with good intentions are not welcome.

 

[Dekster]

I sense that Trump and the Republicans might be making a serious mistake regarding the new Democrat plan (the HEROES Act) to stimulate the economy, and help economic victims of the coronavirus national emergency.

Republicans have been dismissing the legislation, which is due to be voted on in the House tomorrow, saying that it is "aspirational", a "recipe for a prolonged recession.”, and "dead on arrival in the Senate". I haven't read the 1815 page monstrosity of this bill, and sure, it's loaded with Democrat pork, and things unacceptable to Republicans, and probably most Americans. I shudder to think what is in the immigration section of the bill, but Republicans need to be wary here, and not be so totally dismissive.

Democrats are playing a shrewd game with the HEROES Act. It is more than just a $3 Trillion legislation. It is a 2020 election year ploy, that if Republican's don't watch out, could cost them the presidential election, and even the Senate as well in November.

A few things should be carefully noted about this bill >>>

1. Democrats are unlikely to be insistent about everything in the bill. The $3 Trillion price tag, and all the stuff packed into the bill are probably just a starting point for NEGOTIATION. Like if you sell a car, and you want $6,000 for it, you ask for $7,000, and then let the buyer talk you down to what you want.

2. Many Americans are still in dire need of the $1200 stimulus checks that are part of the bill.

3. In November, many VOTERS will be irritated if Republicans are the ones they will see as the killers of the bill, and reason why they didn't get another needed $1200 check. Not what Trump and Republicans facing re-election want. This isn't what you give your political opponents on a silver platter.

4. The $3 trillion, whittled down to $1.5 or so, is a lot of spending, but so will be the spending in the stores (aka the economy) that will result from it, giving a big, needed boost to businesses, and the economy.

5. The coronavirus pandemic has not reached its final stages, or anything near that. In just the last few days, US deaths increased from 75,000 to more than 82,000, and still much more needs to be done, Reopening the economy right now (the Republicans' primary solution) is highly desired, but it might just be too soon.

Pelosi defends $3T price tag of coronavirus relief bill

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday defended the $3 trillion price tag of the latest coronavirus relief bill, saying that “the American people are worth it.”

www.foxnews.com

Trump should introduce a counter-bill that gives everybody a $1201.00 check and funds a border wall.

 

[sparky]

I don't think i've ever witnessed a better example of trickle down economics in these stimulus bills , RR must be rollin' in his grave!!! ~S~

 

[beautress]

I sense that Trump and the Republicans might be making a serious mistake regarding the new Democrat plan (the HEROES Act) to stimulate the economy, and help economic victims of the coronavirus national emergency.

Republicans have been dismissing the legislation, which is due to be voted on in the House tomorrow, saying that it is "aspirational", a "recipe for a prolonged recession.”, and "dead on arrival in the Senate". I haven't read the 1815 page monstrosity of this bill, and sure, it's loaded with Democrat pork, and things unacceptable to Republicans, and probably most Americans. I shudder to think what is in the immigration section of the bill, but Republicans need to be wary here, and not be so totally dismissive.

Democrats are playing a shrewd game with the HEROES Act. It is more than just a $3 Trillion legislation. It is a 2020 election year ploy, that if Republican's don't watch out, could cost them the presidential election, and even the Senate as well in November.

A few things should be carefully noted about this bill >>>

1. Democrats are unlikely to be insistent about everything in the bill. The $3 Trillion price tag, and all the stuff packed into the bill are probably just a starting point for NEGOTIATION. Like if you sell a car, and you want $6,000 for it, you ask for $7,000, and then let the buyer talk you down to what you want.

2. Many Americans are still in dire need of the $1200 stimulus checks that are part of the bill.

3. In November, many VOTERS will be irritated if Republicans are the ones they will see as the killers of the bill, and reason why they didn't get another needed $1200 check. Not what Trump and Republicans facing re-election want. This isn't what you give your political opponents on a silver platter.

4. The $3 trillion, whittled down to $1.5 or so, is a lot of spending, but so will be the spending in the stores (aka the economy) that will result from it, giving a big, needed boost to businesses, and the economy.

5. The coronavirus pandemic has not reached its final stages, or anything near that. In just the last few days, US deaths increased from 75,000 to more than 82,000, and still much more needs to be done, Reopening the economy right now (the Republicans' primary solution) is highly desired, but it might just be too soon.

Pelosi defends $3T price tag of coronavirus relief bill

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday defended the $3 trillion price tag of the latest coronavirus relief bill, saying that “the American people are worth it.”

www.foxnews.com

We're worried that with Democrats in charge of the heros of this nation whom they have persecuted since the prime of Jane Fonda, that the Veterans Hospital, with nobody watching, will be worse, not better, and the moms and dads of young children won't be able to afford to vacation at the national parks of this nation that give peace and respite to Americans for generations in the summertime.

The Democrats have a way of throwing money at a huge problem and then leaving the scene with no followup. Republicans are the adults in the building who have to tame the spendthrifts back from hijacking the savings of young families and they who have expenses due to elderly parents and a growing family even the biggest burliest elephant in the world couldn't bear the weight of.

Edit: Oh, and one other thing: while Jane Fonda busied herself pissing all over the Vietnam Vets of my generation and kissing up to Ho Chi Minh the murderer of innocents, the Republicans were there trying to save the vets from the spitters in cities like San Francisco, now steaming with the poop of the homeless who are not given homes to live in by the greedy Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and the dowager Maxine Waters, who makes certain the money bags are open to Democrats and withheld from the insane homeless who peep and poop on other people's lawns like dogs because they don't have a place of their own to master and care for. With Democrats pushing like hell to eliminate private ownership, young people can't pay their bills much less buy the American dream home for to raise their children and entertain friends with no funds issued by the piggy state the Democrats would inflict on them if the Republicans didn't fight like hell to keep the freedoms our founders blessed this nation with in the form of freedom of speech, freedom of movement, and an opportunity to have wealth for hard work.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I sense that Trump and the Republicans might be making a serious mistake regarding the new Democrat plan (the HEROES Act) to stimulate the economy, and help economic victims of the coronavirus national emergency.

Republicans have been dismissing the legislation, which is due to be voted on in the House tomorrow, saying that it is "aspirational", a "recipe for a prolonged recession.”, and "dead on arrival in the Senate". I haven't read the 1815 page monstrosity of this bill, and sure, it's loaded with Democrat pork, and things unacceptable to Republicans, and probably most Americans. I shudder to think what is in the immigration section of the bill, but Republicans need to be wary here, and not be so totally dismissive.

Democrats are playing a shrewd game with the HEROES Act. It is more than just a $3 Trillion legislation. It is a 2020 election year ploy, that if Republican's don't watch out, could cost them the presidential election, and even the Senate as well in November.

A few things should be carefully noted about this bill >>>

1. Democrats are unlikely to be insistent about everything in the bill. The $3 Trillion price tag, and all the stuff packed into the bill are probably just a starting point for NEGOTIATION. Like if you sell a car, and you want $6,000 for it, you ask for $7,000, and then let the buyer talk you down to what you want.

2. Many Americans are still in dire need of the $1200 stimulus checks that are part of the bill.

3. In November, many VOTERS will be irritated if Republicans are the ones they will see as the killers of the bill, and reason why they didn't get another needed $1200 check. Not what Trump and Republicans facing re-election want. This isn't what you give your political opponents on a silver platter.

4. The $3 trillion, whittled down to $1.5 or so, is a lot of spending, but so will be the spending in the stores (aka the economy) that will result from it, giving a big, needed boost to businesses, and the economy.

5. The coronavirus pandemic has not reached its final stages, or anything near that. In just the last few days, US deaths increased from 75,000 to more than 82,000, and still much more needs to be done, Reopening the economy right now (the Republicans' primary solution) is highly desired, but it might just be too soon.

Pelosi defends $3T price tag of coronavirus relief bill

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday defended the $3 trillion price tag of the latest coronavirus relief bill, saying that “the American people are worth it.”

www.foxnews.com

The Democrats wrote the bill with the knowledge that it will fail. It's merely a conduit for messaging.

It makes no difference. People have already decided which way they're voting in November.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Remember, when Trump was canceling flight from China, Nancy was ordering souvenir Impeachment pens.

And a lot of Republicans are wishing they signed on to impeachment right now, given how badly Trump is failing at the Covid response.

Just how closely did Nancy coordinate with President Xi on the timing of delivering the impeachment articles

 

[JWBooth]

No bill at all is a better result than this bill.

 

[JWBooth]

I sense that Trump and the Republicans might be making a serious mistake regarding the new Democrat plan (the HEROES Act) to stimulate the economy, and help economic victims of the coronavirus national emergency.

Republicans have been dismissing the legislation, which is due to be voted on in the House tomorrow, saying that it is "aspirational", a "recipe for a prolonged recession.”, and "dead on arrival in the Senate". I haven't read the 1815 page monstrosity of this bill, and sure, it's loaded with Democrat pork, and things unacceptable to Republicans, and probably most Americans. I shudder to think what is in the immigration section of the bill, but Republicans need to be wary here, and not be so totally dismissive.

Democrats are playing a shrewd game with the HEROES Act. It is more than just a $3 Trillion legislation. It is a 2020 election year ploy, that if Republican's don't watch out, could cost them the presidential election, and even the Senate as well in November.

A few things should be carefully noted about this bill >>>

1. Democrats are unlikely to be insistent about everything in the bill. The $3 Trillion price tag, and all the stuff packed into the bill are probably just a starting point for NEGOTIATION. Like if you sell a car, and you want $6,000 for it, you ask for $7,000, and then let the buyer talk you down to what you want.

2. Many Americans are still in dire need of the $1200 stimulus checks that are part of the bill.

3. In November, many VOTERS will be irritated if Republicans are the ones they will see as the killers of the bill, and reason why they didn't get another needed $1200 check. Not what Trump and Republicans facing re-election want. This isn't what you give your political opponents on a silver platter.

4. The $3 trillion, whittled down to $1.5 or so, is a lot of spending, but so will be the spending in the stores (aka the economy) that will result from it, giving a big, needed boost to businesses, and the economy.

5. The coronavirus pandemic has not reached its final stages, or anything near that. In just the last few days, US deaths increased from 75,000 to more than 82,000, and still much more needs to be done, Reopening the economy right now (the Republicans' primary solution) is highly desired, but it might just be too soon.

Pelosi defends $3T price tag of coronavirus relief bill

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday defended the $3 trillion price tag of the latest coronavirus relief bill, saying that “the American people are worth it.”

www.foxnews.com

We're worried that with Democrats in charge of the heros of this nation whom they have persecuted since the prime of Jane Fonda, that the Veterans Hospital, with nobody watching, will be worse, not better, and the moms and dads of young children won't be able to afford to vacation at the national parks of this nation that give peace and respite to Americans for generations in the summertime.

The Democrats have a way of throwing money at a huge problem and then leaving the scene with no followup. Republicans are the adults in the building who have to tame the spendthrifts back from hijacking the savings of young families and they who have expenses due to elderly parents and a growing family even the biggest burliest elephant in the world couldn't bear the weight of.

Edit: Oh, and one other thing: while Jane Fonda busied herself pissing all over the Vietnam Vets of my generation and kissing up to Ho Chi Minh the murderer of innocents, the Republicans were there trying to save the vets from the spitters in cities like San Francisco, now steaming with the poop of the homeless who are not given homes to live in by the greedy Democrats like Nancy Pelosi and the dowager Maxine Waters, who makes certain the money bags are open to Democrats and withheld from the insane homeless who peep and poop on other people's lawns like dogs because they don't have a place of their own to master and care for. With Democrats pushing like hell to eliminate private ownership, young people can't pay their bills much less buy the American dream home for to raise their children and entertain friends with no funds issued by the piggy state the Democrats would inflict on them if the Republicans didn't fight like hell to keep the freedoms our founders blessed this nation with in the form of freedom of speech, freedom of movement, and an opportunity to have wealth for hard work.

WTF?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Remember, when Trump was canceling flight from China, Nancy was ordering souvenir Impeachment pens.

And a lot of Republicans are wishing they signed on to impeachment right now, given how badly Trump is failing at the Covid response.

Just how closely did Nancy coordinate with President Xi on the timing of delivering the impeachment articles

That was clever! Youz a funny guy,CF.

 

[Dragonlady]

There is a lot of aid to states.

It will be interesting to see which Red State governors object to aid when the blob signs off on it. I'm guessing none of them will.

Republicans aren't objecting to "aid". They're objecting to a lot of wrong kind of aid, that Democrats are filling the bill with. The thing is, a lot of that is just dispensibles, Democrats use as bargaining chips. Republicans should be smart enough to see that, and not fall into a rather obvious political trap, in an election year.

I guess also that Red State governors won't object to aid (the right kind), and they shouldn't.

Republicans object to any financial aid that doesn’t go to corporations.

 

[Desperado]

You do understand that this bill gives illegals the same rights as US citizens including the $1200 check? and that No one can be deported until after a cure is found? This is not a Hero's Bill but a Democratic wish list and should be called the Traitors Bill.