Republicans want the country to fail

[easyt65]

Do you think we should have a flat tax rate which shifts the burden of revenue to the masses rather than the people who have the most wealth?

If there is a flat tax of 10%, let's say, and basic items like food/clothing/etc - necessities are not taxed... If I am making $50,000 a year and someone millionaire is being taxed at the same rate, how is the millionaire NOT paying his fair share? No one said we would be paying the same amount. He WILL be paying far more than I will be.

If nothing else, many loopholes will be eliminated.
Thousands of pages meant to confuse citizens will be gone.
The govt will no longer be able to use the IRS as a weapon.

 

[Hedgology]

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

What do you mean by proportionately?

percentage of what they earn.....

No one pays taxes based on a percentage of what they earn. I'm not sure why you think this is abnormal… Everyone (assuming you're a rational thinking person) seeks to lower their effective tax rate…

Which give the lie to the specious claims by insanely wealthy liberals that they don't pay high enough taxes...

People pay what they owe, according to their taxable income. That is how it has always worked.

 

[easyt65]

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

Taxes are paid way before the money gets to the hand of the tax payer. There is a reason people are not allowed to be paid FIRST and then have to cut a check to the Govt - if people were actually allowed to see just how much they are being taxed / how much is being taken people would freak / revolt.

 

[TheCrusader]

so perhaps the right should stop giving tax breaks to corporations and the top 1%

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

So the rich just get EVEN richer? The economic pie is NOT infinite. You need to tax the rich to help increase consumption and wealth redistribution.

Otherwise the Rich just end up owning everything.

 

[martybegan]

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

not the predecessor of the recipient.

Dividends are the residual of income that has already been taxed as corporate income, distributed to the owners of the company, i.e. the shareholders. It would be like taxing a persons's billable hours when they added value to the company, THEN taxing them when the company paid them.

 

[martybegan]

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

So the rich just get EVEN richer? The economic pie is NOT infinite. You need to tax the rich to help increase consumption and wealth redistribution.

Otherwise the Rich just end up owning everything.

I thought the purpose of taxation is to fund the government?

So you ADMIT its a giant scheme to move money around to benefit progressives?

How refreshing.

 

[Siete]

cut taxes on the top 1%

create wealth redistribution.

rail about the dems creating wealth redistribution.


RW's crack me up ... especially when they lose general elections.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

not the predecessor of the recipient.

Dividends are the residual of income that has already been taxed as corporate income, distributed to the owners of the company, i.e. the shareholders. It would be like taxing a persons's billable hours when they added value to the company, THEN taxing them when the company paid them.

I doubt seriously that Jillian understands the concept of Retained Earnings.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

ISIS was allowed to foment and flourish as a result of obama's politically driven premature exit from Iraq.

Would you prefer that the US is still in Iraq being killed by the thousands and causing endless war? Is that YOUR policy position?

Of course not. And that wouldn't be the case nor was it the case at the time obama removed our military presence. We had the situation under control until obama blew it. All in the name of his righteous politics.
It hasn't been that long. You have a bad memory.

You really don't know what the fuck was coming if you think as long as the US kept soldiers in Iraq then Iraq would not have fallen back into chaos.

Iraq would not have fallen back into chaos had we kept our military presence here. The proof is that it did become chaotic after we withdrew.
Duh.

duh yourself..... we pulled our troops out when we did because that was the agreement entered into by baby bush.

There you go, making excuses for your hack. No agreement was absolute.
The prudent thing would be to listen to military advisors who would have undoubtedly suggested we remain indefinitely.
But your political whore obama had to impose his own agenda because he is a moronic narcissist.
He wasted all of that American sacrifice and is responsible for any American deaths incurred at the hands of ISIS.

 

[Londoner]

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

How expensive is it to run the patent system? How many corporations that fund the Republican Party enjoy patent protection from big government? How much taxpayer revenue goes to the military stabilization of Exxon's Mideast oil fields? How many government subsidies and bailouts go to the corporations who fund the Republican Party.

You owe it to yourself to look at who benefits most from the evil, confiscatory government.

The point of Talk Radio is to distract people from realizing who really owns government.

Do you know how many subsidies the supposedly overtaxed private sector receives? Do you know how much "free" government money was pumped into companies like Boeing? Or what about satellite technology, which came out of the Cold War Defense Budget? Do you understand the profits made possible by satellite technology? The free market has always been parasitic on the nanny state. This is why our most successful corporations build lobbying empires in Washington. This is why our most profitable corporations run to Uncle sucker for patent protection A.K.A government intervention.

Please turn off talk radio, which is funded by the biggest takers. The biggest offices of Koch Industries are in Washington, so they can suckle at the teat of the American taxpayer, giving them extra resources to fund your message system so as to distract you RE who really benefits from Big Government.

You've been lied to.

 

[easyt65]

'You need to tax the rich to help increase consumption and wealth redistribution.'

Spoken like a true Socialist!

Let's be honest...we do NOT need to raise taxes. I swear I will not vote for 1 more asshole who talks about spending ideas or raising taxes without mentioning cuts.
We HAVE enough money to run this government effectively and efficiently...IF the assholes in government weren't greedy, corrupt, and were fiscally instead of criminally fiscally responsible.

We have multiple redundant agencies that do the same thing that could be trimmed, combined or cut.

We have a fiscal policy for agencies that encourages them to spend ALL of their funds whether they need to or not because of the fear if they don't do so they will get less money the next year. (If you don't spend all you have then it's probably a good sign that you DON'T NEED as much money next year..).

We dole out BILLIONS to governments that are NOT our friends, who do not act in our best interest, and quite frankly who should not be getting money from us....

Last year Obama spend millions to train 6 Syrians - 5 who became ISIS and 1 killed by Putin fighting Obama's Proxy war against Assad.

Liberals passed the nearly $1 trillion dollar Stimulus bill, a massive B$ spending - not job creating - bill that contained over 7,000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) self-party-serving pieces of DNC-ONLY pork that funded such BULLSHIT spending projects as teaching ALCOHOLIC Chinese prostitutes how to drink more responsibly on duty, studying why a homosexual Argentenian male has a better sex life than a heterosexual male American, putting expensive storm windows on an abandoned Ranger Station, and million for the care/rent/up-keep of uninhabited, unused government buildings.

BILLIONS are reportedly wasted on fraud, waste, and abuse in existing programs like Welfare, Food Stamps, etc - waste Obama promised he would address and stop!

This country PI$$ES away more money, hemorrhages more tax dollars, and allows more to be stolen than we can possibly imagine! So pardon me if I want to give a big, hearty 'F* YOU' to anyone who says we need to be taxed more!

If we continue to allow politicians tell us the answer is not fixing, changing, and/or stopping al lof that then we deserve to be bent over the proverbial table, but what we need to do is WTFU and demand/let the government be 'shut down' until al lof this is fixed. (Be real - the government never 'shuts down'. If we 'shut down', non-essential people don't come to work and out govt keeps running - that happens every national holiday! After it's over everyone gets paid, to include back pay! A 'govt shut down' is a F*ing scare tactic!)

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Republicans don't like it when things go well while the black guy occupies the White House.

Another of what have become defining clichés of the wrong-wing—when you have no rational argument with which to try to defend an obvious falsehood, play the “race card”. It's funny that the most unabashedly racist side of the political spectrum thinks that it can gain by falsely accusing the opposite side of racism.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

WTF is wrong with Liberals?

This is the ideology that thinks that Bruce Jenner is a woman. In light of that, nothing else about what they believe should be surprising.

Liberalism is madness.

 

[Redfish]

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

not the predecessor of the recipient.

do you not understand that corporate profits are taxed? Then the dividends are taxed again when the shareholder gets them. Its double taxation.

Why do you think corporations are moving out of the USA? any idea?
answer: unions and taxes.

 

[Redfish]

WTF is wrong with Liberals?

This is the ideology that thinks that Bruce Jenner is a woman. In light of that, nothing else about what they believe should be surprising.

Liberalism is madness.

its a mental disease caused by a defective gene called DRD4. Look it up.

 

[hadit]

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

Taxes are paid way before the money gets to the hand of the tax payer. There is a reason people are not allowed to be paid FIRST and then have to cut a check to the Govt - if people were actually allowed to see just how much they are being taxed / how much is being taken people would freak / revolt.

They are allowed to, you just have to file the correct forms to have none withheld, then you pay quarterly. I have always maintained, however, that the fastest way to cutting taxes for EVERYONE is to abolish payroll withholding.

 

[Hedgology]

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

not the predecessor of the recipient.

do you not understand that corporate profits are taxed? Then the dividends are taxed again when the shareholder gets them. Its double taxation.

Why do you think corporations are moving out of the USA? any idea?
answer: unions and taxes.

Not much evidence Corporations are moving out of the US because of taxes. Mostly because corporations classify themselves as pass-through entities or S-corporations, which avoid the double taxation and pass on their tax either through the owners or the shareholders.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The deficit is a measure of a single year’s shortfall, the difference between what the government takes in and what it spends.

Obama grew the debt and the debt is what really fucking matters you moron!!

so perhaps the right should stop giving tax breaks to corporations and the top 1%

The 1 percent that pay the highest percentages in taxes?

so silly....

they pay more taxes cumulatively.... but not proportionately.

I hope that helps.

You have evidence?

Data from the Tax Foundation show that in 2008, the average income for the bottom half of taxpayers was $15,300.

This year the first $9,350 of income is exempt from taxes for singles and $18,700 for married couples, just slightly more than in 2008. That means millions of the poor do not make enough to owe income taxes.

But they still pay plenty of other taxes, including federal payroll taxes. Between gas taxes, sales taxes, utility taxes and other taxes, no one lives tax-free in America.

When it comes to state and local taxes, the poor bear a heavier burden than the rich in every state except Vermont, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy calculated from official data. In Alabama, for example, the burden on the poor is more than twice that of the top 1 percent. The one-fifth of Alabama families making less than $13,000 pay almost 11 percent of their income in state and local taxes, compared with less than 4 percent for those who make $229,000 or more.

9 Things The Rich Don't Want You To Know About Taxes

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income

Federal income taxes is what the issue was so stop pettifogging.

 

[easyt65]

'pettifogging'?! Isn't that what Slick Willey and Cosby did to all those women?

 

[Redfish]

You have evidence?

Three Fact Checks on Myths About Millionaires and the Taxes They Pay - Roosevelt Institute

and i'm pretty sure dividend income should be taxed at the same rate as any other income.

Then don't tax corporate profits, because that's where dividends come from, and the government already got their taste on that money.

that's idiocy.....

seriously.

taxes are paid as income comes into the hand of the recipient.

not the predecessor of the recipient.

do you not understand that corporate profits are taxed? Then the dividends are taxed again when the shareholder gets them. Its double taxation.

Why do you think corporations are moving out of the USA? any idea?
answer: unions and taxes.

Not much evidence Corporations are moving out of the US because of taxes. Mostly because corporations classify themselves as pass-through entities or S-corporations, which avoid the double taxation and pass on their tax either through the owners or the shareholders.

the US corporate tax rate is 35%, in Ireland its 11%. where would you set up a company?