Zone1 Very few people want to know the Truth

[ding]

“For more than a century, the Catholic Church financed its expansion and its institutions with profits made from the purchase and sale of people they enslaved.”

Is that sentence in quotes and directly above, true or is it false Saint_Ding?

The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.

Catholic Church and slavery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

The Catholic Church was against slavery long b4 any other "church" was. Most people who owned slaves in the US were Protestant

Catholics were a minority.. although Savannah and New Orleans had Catholics.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life. The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.

Catholic Church and slavery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Very nice of the Catholic Church to “humanize“ the west.


Is the sentence in para ii. True or False?

ii. Very few people want to know the Truth. 240808 {post•153} NotfooledbyW Aug’24 Vvfpwt inserted link w/excerpt: “For more than a century, the Catholic Church financed its expansion and its institutions with profits made from the purchase and sale of people they enslaved.” nfbw 240809 Vvftwp00153

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Is the sentence in para ii. True or False Saint ding?

ii. Very few people want to know the Truth. 240808 {post•153} NotfooledbyW Aug’24 Vvfpwt inserted link w/excerpt: “For more than a century, the Catholic Church financed its expansion and its institutions with profits made from the purchase and sale of people they enslaved.” nfbw 240809 Vvftwp00153

 

[NotfooledbyW]

i. Very few people want to know the Truth 240728 {post•1}. forkintheroad7 Jul’24 Svfpwt: It's pretty scary, but true: People do not want the Truth frknthrdN 240728 Svfpwt00001

ii. Very few people want to know the Truth. 240808 {post•153} NotfooledbyW Aug’24 Vvfpwt inserted link w/excerpt: “For more than a century, the Catholic Church financed its expansion and its institutions with profits made from the purchase and sale of people they enslaved.” nfbw 240809 Vvftwp00153

Let’s find Truth together starting with paragraph ii. Is it true yes or no?

 

[Foxfyre]

Foxfyre said:
That's fine but it is not critical thinking, It is testing/challenging your beliefs. Two different





And when Saint_Ding disagrees that disagreement automatically converts to absolute truth because he says so.

And those who don't utilize critical thinking generally revert to ad hominem. Once that happens I know any debate utilizing critical thinking isn't going to happen.

 

[surada]

EARLY CHRISTIAN AND CHRISTIAN-LIKE SECTS: THOMASINES, ASCETICS AND MANICHEISM | Facts and Details

factsanddetails.com

Diversity in early Christian theology - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Woodznutz]

And those who don't utilize critical thinking generally revert to ad hominem. Once that happens I know any debate utilizing critical thinking isn't going to happen.

Boy, have you got that right.

 

[Foxfyre]

“For more than a century, the Catholic Church financed its expansion and its institutions with profits made from the purchase and sale of people they enslaved.”

Is that sentence in quotes and directly above, true or is it false Saint_Ding?

When Emperor Constantine legalized and favored Christianity in the 4th Century AD, the church began a massive expansion throughout the near east, northern Africa, and all of what Europe, i.e. what was then the Roman Empire. And while in that culture in which slavery, including chattel slavery, existed--even Jesus recognized the existence of slavery and did not condemn it in his time--it is true that many, maybe most Church clergy/leaders, even most likely some Saints, owned slaves. But the Church's considerable wealth and newly acquired power came via bequests, acquisitions/large land holdings via expansion, investments.

It is also true that Christian values/morals, no doubt utilizing critical thinking (perhaps due to prodding by the Holy Spirit) came to reject the concept of slavery and was the driving force that made it less and less common throughout the Christian dominated world. By the Middle Ages it was illegal to enslave Christians. The Church, both Catholic and Protestant, in the New World was also the driving force that would end slavery for all, other than in Islamic societies and a few other cultures, more than a millennia later.

The Church like all other human institutions/schools of thought is a mixed bag of right and wrong thinking/beliefs/culture/dogma and has been both a source of infinite good as well as pockets of evil.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

i. Very few people want to know the Truth 240809 {post•170}

“Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind.” (1 Peter 5:2)

ii. Very few people want to know the Truth 240808 {post•152}. forkintheroad7 Aug’24 Svfpwt: The Catholic Church was against slavery long before any other "church" was. frknthrd 240808 Svfpwt00152

iii. Very few people want to know the Truth 240809 {post•170}

Let’s be precise in our language if we are honestly attempting to separate truth from falsehood for Saint_Forkintheroad. I have a problem with the use of the word “against” in paragraph ii. above.

When you tell me St. Fork that the Catholic Church was against slavery, is there some kind of exception about the word “against“ when the Church itself was enjoying the filthy lucre from the slave trade apparently with the blessing of the Holy Spirit for 1888 years after a Carpenter named Jesus of Nazareth walked on the desert lands of Northern Africa.