Restaurant die-off is first course of California’s $15 minimum wage

[OnePercenter]

Kiosks at McDonalds WILL NOT replace workers. It WILL get you your ?meal? faster.

They are already replacing order takers. The next time you're in there, note that there are several kiosks and only one person behind the counter. And when wages get high enough, machines will also replace the food prep people. It's going to happen.

Ultimately, you will pay a premium price to have people handle your order.

There aren't any in Nevada. If you can find one, perhaps you should take a selfie to post.

You don't mean the hamburger flipping robot? The same robot that the manufacture states WON'T FLIP HAMBURGERS.

There are in Orlando, Fla. We saw them a few weeks ago when we took the grandkids on vaca.

So you saw kiosks replacing workers? Nobody was behind the counter? Nobody was taking orders?

There was one person behind the counter. Just like with a grocery store's self checkout, there was one person overseeing everything to answer questions and handle the customers who, for what ever reason, refused to use the kiosks.

Two people, just like before. Thank you.

 

[OnePercenter]

Not arguing about it. It all falls on deaf ears anyway.

The homeless population is growing. It can happen to anyone. At any time. Lack of poor planning. Asteroid. Skyrocketing rents. War. Illness. Choice to live cleanly and homeless rather than living in desolation and filth and bad neighborhoods. etc etc etc.

Good night.

California claims that high prices on the state are the measure of their success. They sure know how to spin it.

California also has over 21% of all homeless in US, second is New York with 15%.

California does have the highest poverty rate when you factor in cost-of-living, otherwise California has average poverty rate.

The simple fact that we have poverty tells me that employers don't pay enough.

Forcing employers by law to pay higher wages just create more poverty.

Kick out all the illegal chap labor and employers will compete for remaining legal labor by increasing wages.

Let the free market work.

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Low pay creates poverty.

You're debating with a guy that firmly believes that if an employer knowingly hires an illegal worker, that employer should loose his/her business and his/her freedom for a few years.

FYI; Employers will not increase wages unless they are made. Conservatives have marketed very hard for the market price concept, like the fresh catch of the day. IMO, it's morally corrupt.

Hate to tell you but there is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

I have worked for several companies that raised wages because of market forces or wanting to keep a good employee. So you are just plain wrong. When I owned my businesses I paid competitive wages and good employees I gave raises to keep them from looking for other jobs.

We use e-verify to make sure we don't hire illegals.

I set the standard in pay, not a reactionary reflex. If you don't you'll loose your soul AND your business.

 

[Iceweasel]

What life have I missed? It's complete bullshit if you think smart business owners work hard, it's how we make you feel sorry for us and keep the competition down. The truth is the people that work for us work their asses off.

My point was the right gives the rich all of those tax loopholes which the middle class and poor pay for them.

Lots of rich dems and lots of them are writing those laws too. And taking advantage of them. Smart business owners don't work hard? You come here every day and prove how stupid you are then pretend to be a business owner. People aren't as dumb as you seem to think.

Who believes you're a business owner? I'd like to see someone say so.

Which Democrats are those?

No, smart business owners don't work hard.

I don't come here everyday. I usually post when I travel because it's boring.

The middle class are dumb, they continue to vote for Republicans.

You're a bigot. Your definition of smart and dumb differ from mine. Your traveling salesman job doesn't qualify as a business owner. No successful owner would trash such a large segment of the population.

 

[Papageorgio]

California claims that high prices on the state are the measure of their success. They sure know how to spin it.

California also has over 21% of all homeless in US, second is New York with 15%.

California does have the highest poverty rate when you factor in cost-of-living, otherwise California has average poverty rate.

The simple fact that we have poverty tells me that employers don't pay enough.

Forcing employers by law to pay higher wages just create more poverty.

Kick out all the illegal chap labor and employers will compete for remaining legal labor by increasing wages.

Let the free market work.

.
Low pay creates poverty.

You're debating with a guy that firmly believes that if an employer knowingly hires an illegal worker, that employer should loose his/her business and his/her freedom for a few years.

FYI; Employers will not increase wages unless they are made. Conservatives have marketed very hard for the market price concept, like the fresh catch of the day. IMO, it's morally corrupt.

Hate to tell you but there is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

I have worked for several companies that raised wages because of market forces or wanting to keep a good employee. So you are just plain wrong. When I owned my businesses I paid competitive wages and good employees I gave raises to keep them from looking for other jobs.

We use e-verify to make sure we don't hire illegals.

I set the standard in pay, not a reactionary reflex. If you don't you'll loose your soul AND your business.

You don't even own a business so spare us your BS.

 

[Ame®icano]

Not arguing about it. It all falls on deaf ears anyway.

The homeless population is growing. It can happen to anyone. At any time. Lack of poor planning. Asteroid. Skyrocketing rents. War. Illness. Choice to live cleanly and homeless rather than living in desolation and filth and bad neighborhoods. etc etc etc.

Good night.

California claims that high prices on the state are the measure of their success. They sure know how to spin it.

California also has over 21% of all homeless in US, second is New York with 15%.

California does have the highest poverty rate when you factor in cost-of-living, otherwise California has average poverty rate.

The simple fact that we have poverty tells me that employers don't pay enough.

Forcing employers by law to pay higher wages just create more poverty.

Kick out all the illegal chap labor and employers will compete for remaining legal labor by increasing wages.

Let the free market work.

.
Low pay creates poverty.

You're debating with a guy that firmly believes that if an employer knowingly hires an illegal worker, that employer should loose his/her business and his/her freedom for a few years.

FYI; Employers will not increase wages unless they are made. Conservatives have marketed very hard for the market price concept, like the fresh catch of the day. IMO, it's morally corrupt.

Hate to tell you but there is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

The best way to increase the pay is to let free market works.

It might be too hard and confusing for you to get the picture at first, but If you force employer to pay higher wages, the employer will just hire less and shift duties to existing workers by increasing their productivity or switch to automation. If you didn't notice, that's happening for a while now.

What happens to those who don't get hired because of government mandated wages? They go back to government support, thus more poverty is created. Who knows, maybe that's why lefties are doing it...

 

[Ame®icano]

Not arguing about it. It all falls on deaf ears anyway.

The homeless population is growing. It can happen to anyone. At any time. Lack of poor planning. Asteroid. Skyrocketing rents. War. Illness. Choice to live cleanly and homeless rather than living in desolation and filth and bad neighborhoods. etc etc etc.

Good night.

California claims that high prices on the state are the measure of their success. They sure know how to spin it.

California also has over 21% of all homeless in US, second is New York with 15%.

California does have the highest poverty rate when you factor in cost-of-living, otherwise California has average poverty rate.

The simple fact that we have poverty tells me that employers don't pay enough.

Forcing employers by law to pay higher wages just create more poverty.

Kick out all the illegal chap labor and employers will compete for remaining legal labor by increasing wages.

Let the free market work.

.
Low pay creates poverty.

You're debating with a guy that firmly believes that if an employer knowingly hires an illegal worker, that employer should loose his/her business and his/her freedom for a few years.

FYI; Employers will not increase wages unless they are made. Conservatives have marketed very hard for the market price concept, like the fresh catch of the day. IMO, it's morally corrupt.

Hate to tell you but there is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

I have worked for several companies that raised wages because of market forces or wanting to keep a good employee. So you are just plain wrong. When I owned my businesses I paid competitive wages and good employees I gave raises to keep them from looking for other jobs.

We use e-verify to make sure we don't hire illegals.

It's been done since Henry Ford raised wages, for the same reason.

That's how free market works.

 

[hadit]

They are already replacing order takers. The next time you're in there, note that there are several kiosks and only one person behind the counter. And when wages get high enough, machines will also replace the food prep people. It's going to happen.

Ultimately, you will pay a premium price to have people handle your order.

There aren't any in Nevada. If you can find one, perhaps you should take a selfie to post.

You don't mean the hamburger flipping robot? The same robot that the manufacture states WON'T FLIP HAMBURGERS.

There are in Orlando, Fla. We saw them a few weeks ago when we took the grandkids on vaca.

So you saw kiosks replacing workers? Nobody was behind the counter? Nobody was taking orders?

There was one person behind the counter. Just like with a grocery store's self checkout, there was one person overseeing everything to answer questions and handle the customers who, for what ever reason, refused to use the kiosks.

Two people, just like before. Thank you.

Not two, one.

 

[charwin95]

I'm talking to you about reality in life here in a NICELY passion. You don't own a business so I do not expect you to understand what the fuck I'm talking about. ALL business owners even Trump or you if you have a chance are greedy. Repeat ALL. ALL business owners will try to maximize profits including Trump. There are no exceptions unless you work for charity.
I never said the $70k overhead is no big deal but I was just giving you a real example how a restaurant owners can easily recover $192. No fucking bid deal.
That has nothing to do with me how people spend their money. Since when do you care how people spend or use their money?
Are you saying that stupid republicans like you really care others?

A nicely passion? It isn't your business but you think 70k a year is no big deal. It doesn't need to go any further than that. You can't massage it into anything lucid.

I gave you an specific example how a restaurant can easily recover a MW increase and how people spend $11. So if you multiply that to 20 customers. How tough is that for you to understand?
That has NOTHING to do with how I viewed or make the $70,000. If you own a business that $70,000 is a peanut compared to other expenses like leasing. Other restaurants as mentioned in this thread closed because new leasing increases from $25k per month to $30k, to $40k -------- these are the killers. Not the MW hike.

Only if it was all that simple, however it doesn't work that way. Depending on the size of a business 70K can be a lot or a little. An increase from $25K a month to 30K is a $60K a year increase, which is less than your claimed peanuts of $70K. So I think your numbers in others items of business are way off.

Hello papag. I have not seen you for a while.
My numbers was just an example how a restaurant can easily recover $192 MW a day increase = 70k/year. From my example---- if a couple spend minimum ( that is minimum ) of $11 ($5.50/person) higher from previous menus.
Let say say ONLY 35 customers ate in that restaurant for the whole day during lunch and diner= $192.50.
If that same restaurant had 80 to 120+ customers in one day. Piece of cake.

1. Been around, I hope things are going well for you. How do you drive an extra 40 to 70 customers a day?

2. The average profit margin of a restaurant is 3.6% to make up $192.50 in costs a restaurant needs to generate over $5300 a day in revenue to maintain the slim 3.6% in profit.
3. If you increase customers you will increase food costs, you increase labor, water, sewer, lights and so on. So a business owner would need to look at the impact of a wage increase and find ways to off set the expense. The ways to do that are limited. Increase menu prices, look at the restaurant hours and cut back on slow business hours, layoff workers and short staff, get lower quality food, cut back on portions, there are other ways but those are most of them. Most small businesses don't have a lot of areas to cut back.

1. Health and business been good can't complain. Just returned from a summer Hawaiian vacation with my entire clan for 8 days.

2. The 35 number of customers I gave for lunch and dinners is the minimum. There are no such restaurants that only have 35 customers for lunch and dinners. Otherwise they are not in business to begin with. I gave a minimum $5.50 per person increase from old menu x 35 customers to cover $192. They do these all the time. That kind of increase will not result in lay off, cut back hours, short staff or lower quality food. Otherwise all famous and big restaurants are closed a long time ago.
There are tons of small businesses here that are operational and successful. They do give raises to their current employees, a lot of them are making over $16/hour. I do not expect a lot or any business that will close because of MW hike. If business is good business will survive----- If business is sucks like food you don't expect to survive.

My favorite taco stand here in San Diego normally cost me $3.15 for one taco asada. I know the owner for many years. She increased the price of taco asada to $3.65 and so the rest of the menu across the board including soda effective last June 5. Not sure what and how much she increases across the board
I ate 4 taco asada today no soda ( too much sugar) just water. That is when I asked her ------ Why is the increase? She said MW increase amigo and the place was packed as always.
With low unemployment rate businesses are force to hire the rejects and higher rates than $12.

 

[charwin95]

I can tell you this----- We talk about Trump garbage all the time from ignorant climate change to just about everything. And at high very percentage the educated and rich Asians don't like Trump. The poor and poorly informed like Trump because how he look only only. But things had change lately when they heard that Trump will cut off Medicaid.
In general they view those white people attending Trump rallies as ALL racist. I'm very sure they are not all racist but------ Sad.

You're on LSD. Lots of smart people like Trump, you are not the spokesperson for all the smart people. Or the rich. Or anyone except yourself. What people hear is pretty much garbage. Every poll I've seen says they are not highly regarded Too much fake news out there.

I do not lie and I do not bull shit. What I told you are reality in life and facts.
You are right I'm not the spoke person for the whole America but I know more minorities than anybody here in this site combined. I've been in business for over 30 years during that years i accumulated a lots of contacts and friends. What do you do for a living?
The garbage coming from Trump are vibrated all over US and the world. They are laughing at us how we elected a petulant child president.
You do not need to hear that from me. Just look around you how many Americans hated or against Trump. That's a fact. Remember he only received anemically 63 millions votes and that is dwindling. That's a fact.

 

[charwin95]

I can tell you this----- We talk about Trump garbage all the time from ignorant climate change to just about everything. And at high very percentage the educated and rich Asians don't like Trump. The poor and poorly informed like Trump because how he look only only. But things had change lately when they heard that Trump will cut off Medicaid.
In general they view those white people attending Trump rallies as ALL racist. I'm very sure they are not all racist but------ Sad.

You're on LSD. Lots of smart people like Trump, you are not the spokesperson for all the smart people. Or the rich. Or anyone except yourself. What people hear is pretty much garbage. Every poll I've seen says they are not highly regarded Too much fake news out there.

Lots of smart rich people. The other side of the coin are ignorant middle-class/poor fools.

Lots of smart middle class and poor too. Money doesn't mean smart. I've met many stupid wealthy people. So it's a moot point.

Really? With your level I doubt it if you even know a single wealthy people. With you level------- Why would a wealthy persons even talk to you in person?

 

[Iceweasel]

I can tell you this----- We talk about Trump garbage all the time from ignorant climate change to just about everything. And at high very percentage the educated and rich Asians don't like Trump. The poor and poorly informed like Trump because how he look only only. But things had change lately when they heard that Trump will cut off Medicaid.
In general they view those white people attending Trump rallies as ALL racist. I'm very sure they are not all racist but------ Sad.

You're on LSD. Lots of smart people like Trump, you are not the spokesperson for all the smart people. Or the rich. Or anyone except yourself. What people hear is pretty much garbage. Every poll I've seen says they are not highly regarded Too much fake news out there.

Lots of smart rich people. The other side of the coin are ignorant middle-class/poor fools.

Lots of smart middle class and poor too. Money doesn't mean smart. I've met many stupid wealthy people. So it's a moot point.

Really? With your level I doubt it if you even know a single wealthy people. With you level------- Why would a wealthy persons even talk to you in person?

I don't care what you doubt, you stupid piece of shit.

 

[Iceweasel]

I do not lie and I do not bull shit. What I told you are reality in life and facts.
You are right I'm not the spoke person for the whole America but I know more minorities than anybody here in this site combined. I've been in business for over 30 years during that years i accumulated a lots of contacts and friends. What do you do for a living?
The garbage coming from Trump are vibrated all over US and the world. They are laughing at us how we elected a petulant child president.
You do not need to hear that from me. Just look around you how many Americans hated or against Trump. That's a fact. Remember he only received anemically 63 millions votes and that is dwindling. That's a fact.

The votes are dwindling? The election is still going on? He won 30 states, that's anemic? You aren't fit to flip hamburgers. Picking up dog shit is all you're good for but I wouldn't let you touch my dog's. Her steaming pile makes more sense than you. Are you getting the drift yet Einstein? Your opinions are meaningless.

 

[Papageorgio]

A nicely passion? It isn't your business but you think 70k a year is no big deal. It doesn't need to go any further than that. You can't massage it into anything lucid.

I gave you an specific example how a restaurant can easily recover a MW increase and how people spend $11. So if you multiply that to 20 customers. How tough is that for you to understand?
That has NOTHING to do with how I viewed or make the $70,000. If you own a business that $70,000 is a peanut compared to other expenses like leasing. Other restaurants as mentioned in this thread closed because new leasing increases from $25k per month to $30k, to $40k -------- these are the killers. Not the MW hike.

Only if it was all that simple, however it doesn't work that way. Depending on the size of a business 70K can be a lot or a little. An increase from $25K a month to 30K is a $60K a year increase, which is less than your claimed peanuts of $70K. So I think your numbers in others items of business are way off.

Hello papag. I have not seen you for a while.
My numbers was just an example how a restaurant can easily recover $192 MW a day increase = 70k/year. From my example---- if a couple spend minimum ( that is minimum ) of $11 ($5.50/person) higher from previous menus.
Let say say ONLY 35 customers ate in that restaurant for the whole day during lunch and diner= $192.50.
If that same restaurant had 80 to 120+ customers in one day. Piece of cake.

1. Been around, I hope things are going well for you. How do you drive an extra 40 to 70 customers a day?

2. The average profit margin of a restaurant is 3.6% to make up $192.50 in costs a restaurant needs to generate over $5300 a day in revenue to maintain the slim 3.6% in profit.
3. If you increase customers you will increase food costs, you increase labor, water, sewer, lights and so on. So a business owner would need to look at the impact of a wage increase and find ways to off set the expense. The ways to do that are limited. Increase menu prices, look at the restaurant hours and cut back on slow business hours, layoff workers and short staff, get lower quality food, cut back on portions, there are other ways but those are most of them. Most small businesses don't have a lot of areas to cut back.

1. Health and business been good can't complain. Just returned from a summer Hawaiian vacation with my entire clan for 8 days.

2. The 35 number of customers I gave for lunch and dinners is the minimum. There are no such restaurants that only have 35 customers for lunch and dinners. Otherwise they are not in business to begin with. I gave a minimum $5.50 per person increase from old menu x 35 customers to cover $192. They do these all the time. That kind of increase will not result in lay off, cut back hours, short staff or lower quality food. Otherwise all famous and big restaurants are closed a long time ago.
There are tons of small businesses here that are operational and successful. They do give raises to their current employees, a lot of them are making over $16/hour. I do not expect a lot or any business that will close because of MW hike. If business is good business will survive----- If business is sucks like food you don't expect to survive.

My favorite taco stand here in San Diego normally cost me $3.15 for one taco asada. I know the owner for many years. She increased the price of taco asada to $3.65 and so the rest of the menu across the board including soda effective last June 5. Not sure what and how much she increases across the board
I ate 4 taco asada today no soda ( too much sugar) just water. That is when I asked her ------ Why is the increase? She said MW increase amigo and the place was packed as always.
With low unemployment rate businesses are force to hire the rejects and higher rates than $12.

Glad you had a great vacation, we just did a drive from Mt. Rushmore, Devils Tower and Yellowstone, this fall we are taking a cruise.

I'm just saying that additional costs are not simply offset by raising prices. If a business has an increase of costs by $192, the offset has to be a lot more than $192. The actual cost is not $192, however it is closer to $5000, otherwise the profit margin goes down. Most restaurants work off a 3.6% profit margin. To produce more food, you would have to buy more food, use more electric, clean more dishes etc, etc. so it always isn't easy to do. You do have to raise food prices but it isn't the only way you can recoup a labor increase.

 

[Iceweasel]

I gave you an specific example how a restaurant can easily recover a MW increase and how people spend $11. So if you multiply that to 20 customers. How tough is that for you to understand?
That has NOTHING to do with how I viewed or make the $70,000. If you own a business that $70,000 is a peanut compared to other expenses like leasing. Other restaurants as mentioned in this thread closed because new leasing increases from $25k per month to $30k, to $40k -------- these are the killers. Not the MW hike.

Only if it was all that simple, however it doesn't work that way. Depending on the size of a business 70K can be a lot or a little. An increase from $25K a month to 30K is a $60K a year increase, which is less than your claimed peanuts of $70K. So I think your numbers in others items of business are way off.

Hello papag. I have not seen you for a while.
My numbers was just an example how a restaurant can easily recover $192 MW a day increase = 70k/year. From my example---- if a couple spend minimum ( that is minimum ) of $11 ($5.50/person) higher from previous menus.
Let say say ONLY 35 customers ate in that restaurant for the whole day during lunch and diner= $192.50.
If that same restaurant had 80 to 120+ customers in one day. Piece of cake.

1. Been around, I hope things are going well for you. How do you drive an extra 40 to 70 customers a day?

2. The average profit margin of a restaurant is 3.6% to make up $192.50 in costs a restaurant needs to generate over $5300 a day in revenue to maintain the slim 3.6% in profit.
3. If you increase customers you will increase food costs, you increase labor, water, sewer, lights and so on. So a business owner would need to look at the impact of a wage increase and find ways to off set the expense. The ways to do that are limited. Increase menu prices, look at the restaurant hours and cut back on slow business hours, layoff workers and short staff, get lower quality food, cut back on portions, there are other ways but those are most of them. Most small businesses don't have a lot of areas to cut back.

1. Health and business been good can't complain. Just returned from a summer Hawaiian vacation with my entire clan for 8 days.

2. The 35 number of customers I gave for lunch and dinners is the minimum. There are no such restaurants that only have 35 customers for lunch and dinners. Otherwise they are not in business to begin with. I gave a minimum $5.50 per person increase from old menu x 35 customers to cover $192. They do these all the time. That kind of increase will not result in lay off, cut back hours, short staff or lower quality food. Otherwise all famous and big restaurants are closed a long time ago.
There are tons of small businesses here that are operational and successful. They do give raises to their current employees, a lot of them are making over $16/hour. I do not expect a lot or any business that will close because of MW hike. If business is good business will survive----- If business is sucks like food you don't expect to survive.

My favorite taco stand here in San Diego normally cost me $3.15 for one taco asada. I know the owner for many years. She increased the price of taco asada to $3.65 and so the rest of the menu across the board including soda effective last June 5. Not sure what and how much she increases across the board
I ate 4 taco asada today no soda ( too much sugar) just water. That is when I asked her ------ Why is the increase? She said MW increase amigo and the place was packed as always.
With low unemployment rate businesses are force to hire the rejects and higher rates than $12.

Glad you had a great vacation, we just did a drive from Mt. Rushmore, Devils Tower and Yellowstone, this fall we are taking a cruise.

I'm just saying that additional costs are not simply offset by raising prices. If a business has an increase of costs by $192, the offset has to be a lot more than $192. The actual cost is not $192, however it is closer to $5000, otherwise the profit margin goes down. Most restaurants work off a 3.6% profit margin. To produce more food, you would have to buy more food, use more electric, clean more dishes etc, etc. so it always isn't easy to do. You do have to raise food prices but it isn't the only way you can recoup a labor increase.

He's too stupid to get it. He thinks business owners shit money.

 

[Markle]

That is bull shit. How can you tell a liberal and republican business owners?
We have lots of democrats business owners here in California are you saying they don't work long hours? Crap.

Comprehension is difficult for you is it not?

What did I say? Please have someone read it to you and define the words I use.

"The majority will be Republicans. They have to work LONG hard hours to earn a living. Something foreign to most Democrats."

If that is incomprehensible to you, (that means you cannot understand) then please don't respond and embarrass yourself once more.

 

[Markle]

What the hell is your bull shit income or lousy career has anything to do with McDonald's profit?
I was quoting Bear about McDonald's profit.

Did I asked you about your career or your income? What the hell are you talking about?

Why does the profit margin of McDonald's have anything to do with you?

I had a fine, career and earned a decent income working hard and giving back as well. Why do you find that something to denigrate?

 

[Markle]

I'm talking to you about reality in life here in a NICELY passion. You don't own a business so I do not expect you to understand what the fuck I'm talking about. ALL business owners even Trump or you if you have a chance are greedy. Repeat ALL. ALL business owners will try to maximize profits including Trump. There are no exceptions unless you work for charity.

That simply renders your entire argument senseless.

 

[Markle]

Its a never ending circle.

Good credit. Apply for housing. Run credit check. 5 people applied. Charge 40 bucks PER APPLICANT PER DAY. Multiply that by 30. Why rent the unit when you can get as much money for credit checks, no hassles with renters? Or better yet, buy a hovel, make it into a 3 bedroom by using the garage, stuff 4 bunk beds in each bedroom, charge 500 bucks PER PERSON PER BED.

Meanwhile, back at the homeless shelter, the line gets bigger. And for added dessert on top..your credit is now fucked because every time some asshole runs a credit check....it affects your credit.

Next?

What the heck are you talking about?

 

[Markle]

Instead of a pay rate hike, they need a RENT MORATORIUM on housing!!!! Rents are atrocious everywhere, but especially the central coast.

Why do you want to create an artificial shortage of housing?

IF you cannot afford the rent in your area, and I realize that even teachers cannot afford to live in say Los Angeles. They have to commute. If you can't afford the rent, move. Nothing is chaining you to a particular location. Another option is to, (and I know this is a shocking solution for you) take a second job or go to school to make yourself more valuable.

Brilliant solutions for you.

 

[Markle]

Long story, not worth repeating here.

In short, it is not unreasonable to pay a reasonable amount of rent. None exist. Look around. Homelessness is rampant.

I live in Tallahassee, Florida. State Capital plus a college town. We have Florida State University, Florida A & M University, a historically black college, Tallahassee Community College (also offers 4 year degrees) and guarantee to transfer to FSU if you maintain a certain grade average plus Lively Vocational Technical school. You can learn everything from computer programming to being a big rig driver.

I say that because of our rents, close to those facilities, are astronomical if you cater to students. Thousands of parents will pay whatever is necessary or BUY so their little snowflakes have a fully equipped kitchen, central air/heat, game room, weight room, pools, tennis courts and whatever else happens to be the current fad. Walking or biking distance units are exorbitant and far, far beyond what I had when I attended U of M. Get away from those areas, all in close proximity to one another and rents are comparable to our cost of living.

Are you aware that millions of those homeless are homeless because they want to be homeless? Millions of others are homeless because we have no mental facilities where they can be housed against their will. Remember the drive to mainstream the mentally ill in order to make them feel more "normal"?