'Revenge porn' should be a crime

[Derideo_Te]

I don't have to worry about a lot of issues on threads here but I post my opinions anyway. I thought that was the general idea. I like the idea of people taking responsibility for their own actions. There is something about freely giving something to someone and then whining about what they do with it that sorta rubs me the wrong way. We have entirely too many "victims" in the world.

Freely given with a verbal promise of privacy. Not a green light to send stalkers your way when they get their whiny little feelers bent out of shape after a break up. That road goes both ways. You afraid mr sexual preditor will meet up with a boyfriend in jail? Boo hoo. You reap what you sow. Don't want to pay the penalty...don't break the law.

If a law already exists to prevent this then what's the complaint ?

Only NJ has a preventative law in place. For everywhere else in the USA the victim is forced to sue the perpetrator at their own cost.

 

[dilloduck]

Freely given with a verbal promise of privacy. Not a green light to send stalkers your way when they get their whiny little feelers bent out of shape after a break up. That road goes both ways. You afraid mr sexual preditor will meet up with a boyfriend in jail? Boo hoo. You reap what you sow. Don't want to pay the penalty...don't break the law.

If a law already exists to prevent this then what's the complaint ?

Only NJ has a preventative law in place. For everywhere else in the USA the victim is forced to sue the perpetrator at their own cost.

So we create more criminals and hope it serves as a deterrent I guess.

 

[Derideo_Te]

If a law already exists to prevent this then what's the complaint ?

Only NJ has a preventative law in place. For everywhere else in the USA the victim is forced to sue the perpetrator at their own cost.

So we create more criminals and hope it serves as a deterrent I guess.

These are not victimless crimes. Getting busted for smoking a joint is "creating a criminal". Holding someone accountable for deliberately and maliciously harming someone else is not.

 

[dilloduck]

Only NJ has a preventative law in place. For everywhere else in the USA the victim is forced to sue the perpetrator at their own cost.

So we create more criminals and hope it serves as a deterrent I guess.

These are not victimless crimes. Getting busted for smoking a joint is "creating a criminal". Holding someone accountable for deliberately and maliciously harming someone else is not.

I post a picture---someone else does something with it. You going to prosecute me for it ?

 

[Derideo_Te]

So we create more criminals and hope it serves as a deterrent I guess.

These are not victimless crimes. Getting busted for smoking a joint is "creating a criminal". Holding someone accountable for deliberately and maliciously harming someone else is not.

I post a picture---someone else does something with it. You going to prosecute me for it ?

This was more than just posting a picture, DD. It was posting her name and contact information with the deliberate intent to cause her harm.

 

[dilloduck]

These are not victimless crimes. Getting busted for smoking a joint is "creating a criminal". Holding someone accountable for deliberately and maliciously harming someone else is not.

I post a picture---someone else does something with it. You going to prosecute me for it ?

This was more than just posting a picture, DD. It was posting her name and contact information with the deliberate intent to cause her harm.

great ----so posting a picture would be perfectly fine.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I post a picture---someone else does something with it. You going to prosecute me for it ?

This was more than just posting a picture, DD. It was posting her name and contact information with the deliberate intent to cause her harm.

great ----so posting a picture would be perfectly fine.

If you have the written consent of the person concerned and they are old enough to give informed consent and you are not violating the TOC of the website concerned you might be ok.

 

[George Costanza]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

I agree. There is such a thing as criminal libel - a crime. What is the end result of criminal libel? Often times not anywhere near as bad as the result of revenge porn.

 

[Swagger]

Smart people get taken advantage of everyday by scam artists, people they thought were friends,ex lovers,family members etc. People are not machines...they are flawed and they let their guard down sometimes or have a weak moment for whatever reason. It happens . This BS about how people should just deal with it, because it's the internet age is a cop out. People shouldn't have to just "deal" with predators.

Actually yes, people do just have to deal with their choices...actions have consequences. If someone compromises their reputation, I don't think it should be the governments job to swoop in and save them from their poor decisions. Again, a person's photos can be released without it being tracked to anyone...so no protection is guaranteed even with some sort of law.

Not true. If they want to investigate it they can get the information of exactly who uploaded the pictures from the website and go from there.

They'd need a warrant for that. And seeing as the police have said that no crime has been committed, a judge won't grant one.

Personally speaking, I think it's a particularly nasty thing to do, and I wouldn't sympathise with the ex-boyfriend if her fther or one of her uncles broke both of his legs.

However, this raises a question that I'm unsure of the answer to. We all know that teenagers have underage sex. Would child pornography laws have been broken if she/they been underage?

 

[BlueGin]

This was more than just posting a picture, DD. It was posting her name and contact information with the deliberate intent to cause her harm.

great ----so posting a picture would be perfectly fine.

If you have the written consent of the person concerned and they are old enough to give informed consent and you are not violating the TOC of the website concerned you might be ok.

The bills being addressed in Florida and California are more laid back. But in NJ revenge porn is considered a third degree felony (invasion of privacy). And distribution of pornography by anyone not licensed or privileged to do so...is punishable with up to five years in prison or a $30,000 fine. And has been for a good 10 years.

 

[FA_Q2]

then that's the issue

not the porn itself

It was all of it. The porn was used to solicit harassment from others as well as demean and humiliate the victim.

I'm going to fall on the side of freedom sucks sometimes, especially when life isn't fair.

The stewpud shall be punished

This is not a case of freedom though. The pictures were taken with a clear denial of consent to publish them in a public arena. That is essentially, in my mind, making a contract with that person. He then broke that agreement by posting the photos and did so with malicious intent. That should be illegal. It is not and never has been a case of ‘freedom.’ I don’t have the right to snake in to your backyard and snap photos of you through the bathroom window. Why should I then be able to take pictures of you that you have NOT consented to release and then release them? The simple answer is that you should not.

 

[FA_Q2]

I post a picture---someone else does something with it. You going to prosecute me for it ?

This was more than just posting a picture, DD. It was posting her name and contact information with the deliberate intent to cause her harm.

great ----so posting a picture would be perfectly fine.

Not if the express consent to post it is denied to you.

 

[eflatminor]

Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Oh the horror...

Here's an idea: Don't pose naked if you don't want people to see you naked.

How about a little personal responsibility? Geez!

 

[PixieStix]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

I have an idea. Don't let anyone take naked pictures.

 

[PixieStix]

Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Oh the horror...

Here's an idea: Don't pose naked if you don't want people to see you naked.

How about a little personal responsibility? Geez!

I thought the exact same thing. I agree.

We have to make a law for every little thing? If someone doesn't want to suffer consequences, then don't pose for pics

 

[Skull Pilot]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Any woman who believes a guy when he says he won't show her naked pictures or videos around is just as stupid as any guy who believes a woman when she says she's on the pill.

 

[BlueGin]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Any woman who believes a guy when he says he won't show her naked pictures or videos around is just as stupid as any guy who believes a woman when she says she's on the pill.

I totally agree. Men are untrustworthy...it's a given. Too bad they are also douche bags.

 

[AyeCantSeeYou]

Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Oh the horror...

Here's an idea: Don't pose naked if you don't want people to see you naked.

How about a little personal responsibility? Geez!

I thought the exact same thing. I agree.

We have to make a law for every little thing? If someone doesn't want to suffer consequences, then don't pose for pics

Exactly!

If you wouldn't want your mother, father, brothers, or sisters to see/hear it, then why would you do it?

 

[PixieStix]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Any woman who believes a guy when he says he won't show her naked pictures or videos around is just as stupid as any guy who believes a woman when she says she's on the pill.

I totally agree. Men are untrustworthy...it's a given. Too bad they are also douche bags.

ALL men are not untrustworthy. If he asks you to pose for those kinds of pics. It may be a red flag, but it may also be a test

I am sorry you've had some bad experiences.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Any woman who believes a guy when he says he won't show her naked pictures or videos around is just as stupid as any guy who believes a woman when she says she's on the pill.

I totally agree. Men are untrustworthy...it's a given. Too bad they are also douche bags.

women are equally untrustworthy.