'Revenge porn' should be a crime

[Politico]

Actually not.

It's matter of Americans finding ways to protect their girls/women [and boys/men] from being hurt online by those seeking revenge that don’t violate the Constitution.

Telling how many perceive ‘banning’ and ‘outlawing’ as the only viable ‘solutions.’

What do you have in mind...'free speech'?

Tell em' not to share tittie pics with their friends. Boom instant protection.

 

[bianco]

Actually not.

It's matter of Americans finding ways to protect their girls/women [and boys/men] from being hurt online by those seeking revenge that don’t violate the Constitution.

Telling how many perceive ‘banning’ and ‘outlawing’ as the only viable ‘solutions.’

What do you have in mind...'free speech'?

Honestly-----this is like telling a secret in a way. You feel betrayed if you entrust someone with something and they don't care for it the way you had hoped they would. Do you want some guarantee that life is risk free ? Some kind of punishment for blabbing?

What I want is there to be a special law to cover the posting of 'revenge porn' on the internet [which has the intent to hurt people and ruin their lives].
Not too much to ask, surely.

 

[BlueGin]

There are ways...it's all a matter of the govt man and courts having some resolve.

Man jailed for posting nude photos of ex-girlfriend online | News.com.au


A 20-year-old man who posted nude photographs of his ex-girlfriend on Facebook was sentenced to six months' jail in a landmark legal case.
In the first social networking-related conviction in Australian history, Ravshan "Ronnie" Usmanov pleaded guilty to publishing an indecent article.

He was initially sentenced to six months' home detention, but on appeal the sentence was suspended, The Sun-Herald reported.

After demanding Usmanov take down the photos, the woman reported the incident to police.

According to the newspaper, Usmanov told police, "I put the photos up because she hurt me and it was the only thing [I had] to hurt her."

Deputy Chief Magistrate Jane Mottley said as she sentenced Usmanov that she was "deterring both the offender and the community generally from committing similar crimes."

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It's just a matter of whether or not Americans want to protect their girls/women [and boys/men] from being hurt online by revengists.

Actually not.

It's matter of Americans finding ways to protect their girls/women [and boys/men] from being hurt online by those seeking revenge that don’t violate the Constitution.

Telling how many perceive ‘banning’ and ‘outlawing’ as the only viable ‘solutions.’

Internet police---bring them on.. YUCK

I love it when followers pretend to be rebels. LMAO

You are such a fraud.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

This should be a crime, for sure. I'm surprised it isn't already.


These a-holes are spoiling it for all the honest men who will no longer have any nude pictures of their ex-girlfriends because women will eventually just not allow anyone to ever photograph them nude.

 

[BlueGin]

Actually not.

It's matter of Americans finding ways to protect their girls/women [and boys/men] from being hurt online by those seeking revenge that don’t violate the Constitution.

Telling how many perceive ‘banning’ and ‘outlawing’ as the only viable ‘solutions.’

What do you have in mind...'free speech'?

Honestly-----this is like telling a secret in a way. You feel betrayed if you entrust someone with something and they don't care for it the way you had hoped they would. Do you want some guarantee that life is risk free ? Some kind of punishment for blabbing?

Blabbing is one thing. Setting you up with a potiential for harm is another.

 

[BlueGin]

What do you have in mind...'free speech'?

Honestly-----this is like telling a secret in a way. You feel betrayed if you entrust someone with something and they don't care for it the way you had hoped they would. Do you want some guarantee that life is risk free ? Some kind of punishment for blabbing?

What I want is there to be a special law to cover the posting of 'revenge porn' on the internet [which has the intent to hurt people and ruin their lives].
Not too much to ask, surely.

New Jersey has a law against revenge porn on the books. California and Florida are working on it.

Under California's bill the following would apply...

The California bill, Senate Bill 255, targets anyone who photographs or records a sexual image with consent and then "subsequently distributes the image taken, with the intent to cause serious emotional distress, and the other person suffers serious emotional distress."

Under the new law, distributing these types of videos and photos would become a misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine for first violation. A second offense could result in a year in jail and a $2,000 fine. The perpetrator would not become a registered sex offender.

 

[FA_Q2]

No. We're talking about why it is stupid to let people take nude pics of you

No, that is the issue you have decided to take on. The thread is about a women working to end revenge porn.

Men can work to end revenge porn as well.

That they correctly disagree with criminalizing it doesn’t mean they’re not just as dedicated to achieving that goal.

Why? How is that ‘correct.’ There was no consent. I fail to understand why it is a good thing to be able to take photos of someone where a reasonable expectation of privacy is present and then post them on the internet. Particularly with sensitive information. It is pretty clear that it should b illegal to me.

Her expectation of privacy disappeared when she consented to him taking the pictures. She apparently understood he had the capability to upload them onto the internet but relied on something less than a legally binding agreement such as a contract.

I understand the emotion behind this. If any scumbag did that to one of my daughters, I'd pay him a visit. However, it all boils down to her consent. She exercised poor judgment and there are consequences that come with that poor judgment. It's a harsh lesson-learned.

The reason I'm opposed to turning this into a crime is because it opens a Pandora's Box. If I take family pictures of our vacation at Disney World that includes people in the background who I don't know nor care to know, but because I posted it on facebook, does that make me liable for violating their privacy? It shouldn't. But if such a law was written with the intent to protect against revenge porn, it would open the door to silly lawsuits such as someone being inadvertently photographed while at a public place.

Write a law specifically protecting people from revenge porn.
A law specifically protecting people from having private naked photos posted on the internet without their consent.

It's easy to pass such a law.
I've heard of couples taking such photos "to preserve the woman's naked beauty for all time".
The innocent women [or men] must be protected from those out for revenge when relationships sour.

Unfortunately.

But unlikely it would withstand a court challenge.

Under what would the law be overturned? I don’t think that the law would be overturned at all.

This is no different than me sneaking into your yard and taking pic of you in the shower or changing. She consented ONLY to private pictures, not public ones, and she certainly had a reasonable expectation of privacy here. I don’t see a single reason that such a law would be overturned.

 

[dilloduck]

Honestly-----this is like telling a secret in a way. You feel betrayed if you entrust someone with something and they don't care for it the way you had hoped they would. Do you want some guarantee that life is risk free ? Some kind of punishment for blabbing?

What I want is there to be a special law to cover the posting of 'revenge porn' on the internet [which has the intent to hurt people and ruin their lives].
Not too much to ask, surely.

New Jersey has a law against revenge porn on the books. California and Florida are working on it.

Under California's bill the following would apply...

The California bill, Senate Bill 255, targets anyone who photographs or records a sexual image with consent and then "subsequently distributes the image taken, with the intent to cause serious emotional distress, and the other person suffers serious emotional distress."

Under the new law, distributing these types of videos and photos would become a misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine for first violation. A second offense could result in a year in jail and a $2,000 fine. The perpetrator would not become a registered sex offender.

Measuring emotional stress--tough stuff. What about everything else that causes people emotional distress ? Isn't that the bottom line here---punishing people for causing other people to have emotional distress ? Let's face it. There are people out there who constantly live in their own little world of distress.
eeeeeeeeek don't cause me distress or I'll call the cops.

 

[BlueGin]

What I want is there to be a special law to cover the posting of 'revenge porn' on the internet [which has the intent to hurt people and ruin their lives].
Not too much to ask, surely.

New Jersey has a law against revenge porn on the books. California and Florida are working on it.

Under California's bill the following would apply...

The California bill, Senate Bill 255, targets anyone who photographs or records a sexual image with consent and then "subsequently distributes the image taken, with the intent to cause serious emotional distress, and the other person suffers serious emotional distress."

Under the new law, distributing these types of videos and photos would become a misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine for first violation. A second offense could result in a year in jail and a $2,000 fine. The perpetrator would not become a registered sex offender.

Measuring emotional stress--tough stuff. What about everything else that causes people emotional distress ? Isn't that the bottom line here---punishing people for causing other people to have emotional distress ? Let's face it. There are people out there who constantly live in their own little world of distress.
eeeeeeeeek don't cause me distress or I'll call the cops.

Afraid it will cut back on your cyber revenge choices are you ?

 

[dilloduck]

New Jersey has a law against revenge porn on the books. California and Florida are working on it.

Under California's bill the following would apply...

Measuring emotional stress--tough stuff. What about everything else that causes people emotional distress ? Isn't that the bottom line here---punishing people for causing other people to have emotional distress ? Let's face it. There are people out there who constantly live in their own little world of distress.
eeeeeeeeek don't cause me distress or I'll call the cops.

Afraid it will cut back on your cyber revenge choices are you ?

I've never betrayed anyone.

 

[BlueGin]

Measuring emotional stress--tough stuff. What about everything else that causes people emotional distress ? Isn't that the bottom line here---punishing people for causing other people to have emotional distress ? Let's face it. There are people out there who constantly live in their own little world of distress.
eeeeeeeeek don't cause me distress or I'll call the cops.

Afraid it will cut back on your cyber revenge choices are you ?

I've never betrayed anyone.

Guess you don't have to worry then.

 

[dilloduck]

Afraid it will cut back on your cyber revenge choices are you ?

I've never betrayed anyone.

Guess you don't have to worry then.

I don't have to worry about a lot of issues on threads here but I post my opinions anyway. I thought that was the general idea. I like the idea of people taking responsibility for their own actions. There is something about freely giving something to someone and then whining about what they do with it that sorta rubs me the wrong way. We have entirely too many "victims" in the world.

 

[BlueGin]

I've never betrayed anyone.

Guess you don't have to worry then.

I don't have to worry about a lot of issues on threads here but I post my opinions anyway. I thought that was the general idea. I like the idea of people taking responsibility for their own actions. There is something about freely giving something to someone and then whining about what they do with it that sorta rubs me the wrong way. We have entirely too many "victims" in the world.

Freely given with a verbal promise of privacy. Not a green light to send stalkers your way when they get their whiny little feelers bent out of shape after a break up. That road goes both ways. You afraid mr sexual preditor will meet up with a boyfriend in jail? Boo hoo. You reap what you sow. Don't want to pay the penalty...don't break the law.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Stupid people deserve what they get. Your actions have consequences.

 

[S.J.]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Stupid people deserve what they get. Your actions have consequences.

So, if one of those online stalkers ends up killing her, she deserves that too?

 

[FA_Q2]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Stupid people deserve what they get. Your actions have consequences.

I have a real problem when people take this asinine approach that it is simply ‘stupid’ if you let your loved one have a pornographic photo of yourself. You have to be seriously sexually suppressed to see that as stupid. I have several of my wife and there is nothing stupid or dumb about them. You are seriously exaggerating what this is.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Her expectation of privacy disappeared when she consented to him taking the pictures. She apparently understood he had the capability to upload them onto the internet but relied on something less than a legally binding agreement such as a contract.

I understand the emotion behind this. If any scumbag did that to one of my daughters, I'd pay him a visit. However, it all boils down to her consent. She exercised poor judgment and there are consequences that come with that poor judgment. It's a harsh lesson-learned.

The reason I'm opposed to turning this into a crime is because it opens a Pandora's Box. If I take family pictures of our vacation at Disney World that includes people in the background who I don't know nor care to know, but because I posted it on facebook, does that make me liable for violating their privacy? It shouldn't. But if such a law was written with the intent to protect against revenge porn, it would open the door to silly lawsuits such as someone being inadvertently photographed while at a public place.

Write a law specifically protecting people from revenge porn.
A law specifically protecting people from having private naked photos posted on the internet without their consent.

It's easy to pass such a law.
I've heard of couples taking such photos "to preserve the woman's naked beauty for all time".
The innocent women [or men] must be protected from those out for revenge when relationships sour.

Unfortunately.

But unlikely it would withstand a court challenge.

A court challenge based on what? Obscenity isn't entirely protected by the first amendment, the state may certainly regulate pornography.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Stupid people deserve what they get. Your actions have consequences.

I have a real problem when people take this asinine approach that it is simply ‘stupid’ if you let your loved one have a pornographic photo of yourself. You have to be seriously sexually suppressed to see that as stupid. I have several of my wife and there is nothing stupid or dumb about them. You are seriously exaggerating what this is.

A nude photo of a loved one is not pornographic. It only becomes pornographic when it is used for that purpose. Once again this is about intent. My parents have nude pictures of me and my siblings at the beach when we were toddlers. No one considered those innocent holiday snaps to be pornographic in the slightest but if they were posted on the internet today they will be classified as child porn.

 

[dilloduck]

Guess you don't have to worry then.

I don't have to worry about a lot of issues on threads here but I post my opinions anyway. I thought that was the general idea. I like the idea of people taking responsibility for their own actions. There is something about freely giving something to someone and then whining about what they do with it that sorta rubs me the wrong way. We have entirely too many "victims" in the world.

Freely given with a verbal promise of privacy. Not a green light to send stalkers your way when they get their whiny little feelers bent out of shape after a break up. That road goes both ways. You afraid mr sexual preditor will meet up with a boyfriend in jail? Boo hoo. You reap what you sow. Don't want to pay the penalty...don't break the law.

If a law already exists to prevent this then what's the complaint ?

 

[dilloduck]

I can totally believe the highlighted portion.

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(CNN) -- "Jane" allowed her ex-boyfriend to take her naked photograph because, he assured her, it would be for his eyes only. After their breakup, the man betrayed her trust.

On the revenge porn site UGotPosted, he uploaded her naked photo and contact information. Jane received calls, e-mails, and Facebook friend requests from hundreds of strangers, many of whom wanted sex.
After the site refused to take down the post and the anonymous calls and e-mails intensified, she turned to law enforcement. According to the officers, nothing could be done because her ex had not engaged in a harassing "course of conduct," as required by criminal harassment law, and because he had not explicitly solicited others to stalk her.

Criminal law should have a role in deterring and punishing revenge porn. It's not new that certain types of privacy invasions are crimes. Many states prohibit the nonconsensual taking of sexually explicit images -- the disclosure of someone's naked images should be criminalized as well.

But in all but one state, New Jersey, turning people into objects of pornography without their permission is legal. A single post, however, can go viral and ruin someone's life.

Revenge porn and its ilk raise the risk of offline stalking and physical attack. Fear can be profound. Victims don't feel safe leaving their homes. Jane, who is a nurse, did not go to work for days. As many victims have told me, they struggle especially with anxiety, and some suffer panic attacks. Revenge porn victims withdraw from online engagement, shutting down their social media profiles and blogs to prevent strangers from finding them online. They cannot participate fully in our networked age.

Opinion: Make 'revenge porn' a crime - CNN.com

Stupid people deserve what they get. Your actions have consequences.

I have a real problem when people take this asinine approach that it is simply ‘stupid’ if you let your loved one have a pornographic photo of yourself. You have to be seriously sexually suppressed to see that as stupid. I have several of my wife and there is nothing stupid or dumb about them. You are seriously exaggerating what this is.

If you pass them on to someone she'll feel embarrassed and you'll be dead.