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I actually posted a long, and detailed, response to your claims that the science proves something it doesn't. I wonder why you neglected to deal with anything I said in that post, is it because you can't handle actual science?
There is no actual science that says orientation is a choice because it isn't. The scientific community at large has stated such.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
How does Rick Perry know about either homosexuality or alcoholism unless he has experience with both?
If he has any influence in 2016 Presidential run get ready for 8 more years of a Democrat.
Time is now to call these kooks out.
How does Rick Perry know about either homosexuality or alcoholism unless he has experience with both?
You've heard of zombies?
You a zombie?
There is no actual science that says orientation is a choice because it isn't. The scientific community at large has stated such.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
I assume you're being sardonic since the science in these articles isn't speculation at all. When I say I was born gay, that's "speculation" since I, personally, have no scientific evidence to support my claim (but there's plenty out there), just an eye witness account. Apparently that's not good enough either.
...just an eye witness account. Apparently that's not good enough either.
Wow , you can remember being born ? Sorry , I for one am having a hard time swallowing that [No sarcastic comments SeaWytch -I can read your filthy little excuse for a mind]
Nope, but I can remember always being attracted to girls and never boys. You? Did you "like" both but chose only one gender? I didn't.
I actually posted a long, and detailed, response to your claims that the science proves something it doesn't. I wonder why you neglected to deal with anything I said in that post, is it because you can't handle actual science?
There is no actual science that says orientation is a choice because it isn't. The scientific community at large has stated such.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
Yeah, that is what I did. You really should pull your head out of your ass and stop attacking straw men, it makes you look incredibly stupid.
Feel free to find the post where I actually said something derogatory about anyone on the basis of their sexual preference. When you fail at that feel free to come back and admit you are the bigot in this conversation.
I am never wrong, learn form it. The problem is that you assholes want to define everything as a public accommodation, even if it has nothing to do with public accommodation. If you weren't such an authoritarian asshole you wouldn't be in that position.
The law is very clear on public accommodation. Unless I own a private club, I cannot discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. That's from the Civil Rights Act. Federal protections have expanded to include gender, age and disability.
You can discriminate against me in some places, but I can't discriminate against a Christian anywhere. (Again, unless I own a private club). You ARE wrong.
That depends on the state, but thanks for proving how little you know about the law.
There is no actual science that says orientation is a choice because it isn't. The scientific community at large has stated such.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
Same sex couplings have never produced a single job from the child produced by their sexual relations. Heterosexual coupling has produced all.
When a same sex couple ages and requires Medicare, social security, VA or other government benefits, the contributions to those are mainly supplied by heterosexuality and the offspring of male/female coupling. The offspring of the coupling between my wife and I will contribute to the benefits received by same sex couples. Since same sex couples cannot have offspring, they cannot contribute to mine.
If the government want to encourage those couples that supply ALL future taxpayers by giving them a few extra benefits because of this, I have no problem with this as long as they don't force these couples into the contracts.
Same sex couples supply zero future citizens and zero future taxpayers yet feel they are being treated unfairly?
There is no actual science that says orientation is a choice because it isn't. The scientific community at large has stated such.
The scientific community has stated no such thing. The pseudo scientific astrologers and people who pretend that psychology is real science have stated it, and been shot down by actual scientists repeatedly. That is because, despite the claims of idiots, a biological predisposition toward something does not automatically control your life. It it actually worked that way addicts would never stop taking drugs, and every sociopath in the world would be a serial killer. People make choices, you should accept the fact that you have the ability to chose instead of treating your life like you have no control over it.
Yes, the scientific community has. They are united in their knowledge that, while they do not know the exact combinations of nature and nurture that makes someone gay, they do know that gays don't choose their orientation.
Now, is there a difference in having attractions and acting upon them? Of course there is but as long as it is with consenting adults, our "behaviors" don't need to be "controlled". It's not akin to alcoholism or murder and you're a douche for even attempting to equate them.
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
Same sex couplings have never produced a single job from the child produced by their sexual relations. Heterosexual coupling has produced all.
When a same sex couple ages and requires Medicare, social security, VA or other government benefits, the contributions to those are mainly supplied by heterosexuality and the offspring of male/female coupling. The offspring of the coupling between my wife and I will contribute to the benefits received by same sex couples. Since same sex couples cannot have offspring, they cannot contribute to mine.
If the government want to encourage those couples that supply ALL future taxpayers by giving them a few extra benefits because of this, I have no problem with this as long as they don't force these couples into the contracts.
Same sex couples supply zero future citizens and zero future taxpayers yet feel they are being treated unfairly?
My brother and his legal wife have provided no "offspring" for you to suck off in your old age...gonna go take their license away Pops? My partner and I are the legal parents of two children...do we get your special breeder license Pops?
Ahhhh, now we are comparing gays to drug addicts, too! Of course.
Pedophiles, alcholics, drug addicts. You bigots can't prove a couple of consenting adults getting married and reaping the same state and federal benfits as everyone else is harmful to society, so you have to try so hard to create a fantasy linkage with gays to socially harmful behaviors. But you aren't prejudiced toward gays! No, sir!
Yeah, that is what I did. You really should pull your head out of your ass and stop attacking straw men, it makes you look incredibly stupid.
Feel free to find the post where I actually said something derogatory about anyone on the basis of their sexual preference. When you fail at that feel free to come back and admit you are the bigot in this conversation.
So you don't think that equating gays to alcoholics and sociopathic murderers isn't derogatory?
The law is very clear on public accommodation. Unless I own a private club, I cannot discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. That's from the Civil Rights Act. Federal protections have expanded to include gender, age and disability.
You can discriminate against me in some places, but I can't discriminate against a Christian anywhere. (Again, unless I own a private club). You ARE wrong.
That depends on the state, but thanks for proving how little you know about the law.
No it doesn't depend on the state. That was the Civil Rights Act I posted from. Need it again? Actually, this is the only part you need..the exception:(e) The provisions of this title shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment within the scope of subsection (b).That's it...just private clubs can discriminate based on race, color, religion, or national origin. The gay baker MUST bake the Christian a cake from their catalog in all 50 states, but you whine and cry about "fascism" because the Christian baker must bake a cake out of their catalog for the gay person in half of them.
How about getting rid of all public accommodation laws instead of whining like a bitch because in some places they cover "the gheys" too.
I'm far from a liberal, but I don't see why so many conservatives care about gay people so much? Who cares if people are gay, why they're gay, how they became gay, etc.? Doesn't change my life in any way shape or form.
Because THEY ARE MAKING IT AN ISSUE, duh.
Good God, if they would just shut the fuck up once in a while and let people discuss ANY topic without them bringing all their cock sucking bullshit into the discussion peace might actually reign.
And having to hear all their fucking lies and bullshit agitprop certainly does affect my life. If it doesn't affect yours then good for you. But some of us have ears, eyes, read and think for ourselves. Happy you are unafflicted with such nonsense.
Yes, the scientific community has. They are united in their knowledge that, while they do not know the exact combinations of nature and nurture that makes someone gay, they do know that gays don't choose their orientation.
Now, is there a difference in having attractions and acting upon them? Of course there is but as long as it is with consenting adults, our "behaviors" don't need to be "controlled". It's not akin to alcoholism or murder and you're a douche for even attempting to equate them.
Mayo Clinic 2007
One of the most obvious examples of an environmental
factor that increases the chances of an individual becoming
an offender is if he or she were sexually abused as a child.
This relationship is known as the victim-to-abuser cycle
or abused-abusers phenomena.
5,23,24,46...
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why the abused abusers phenomena occurs: identification with the aggressor,
in which the abused child is trying to gain a new
identity by becoming the abuser; an imprinted sexual
arousal pattern established by early abuse; early abuse
leading to hypersexual behavior; or a form of social learning took place http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf
ATLANTA [2005 Clinical Psychiatry News] -- Substance abuse is pervasive among gay men and is so intricately intertwined with epidemics of depression, partner abuse, and childhood sexual abuse that adequately addressing one issue requires attention to the others as well, said Ronald Stall, Ph.D., chief of prevention research for the division of HIV/AIDS prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta
So you don't think that equating gays to alcoholics and sociopathic murderers isn't derogatory?
Do you also have 'problems' with the behavior of heterosexuals? Does pedophilia really bother you if it is caused by a heterosexual (which it is vastly more often than from homosexuals). Does pornography pose as big a societal problem than the actions of homosexuals? Does it surprise or offend you that those most often repressed are those who cry out loudest for equality? Is there a need to repress the rights of law abiding homosexuals because you are offended by the irresponsible actions of a few homosexuals? Could that same standard be applied to all heterosexuals following egregious actions by a few heterosexuals? Or do yiou just find it fun to repress the rights of a minority?Look at the post above mine and then the post above that [mine also]. His question was answered with biting clarity before he even asked it. And still he remains confused. "There's your sign"...So you don't think that equating gays to alcoholics and sociopathic murderers isn't derogatory?
Whether or not you are offended by an open discussion of the mechanics of the environmentally-acquired affect known as "homosexuality" and the potential problems and issues it presents to society [HIV, links to pedophilia...Harvey Milk and the rest of it] is immaterial. Your offense cannot shut the conversation down.
And it will not shut the conversation down. If open discussions about your behavioral affect at that of your LGBT cult members offends you, you should go somewhere else and pat each other on the back about how cool it is what you do. Just don't show up where people have an issue with these behaviors forcing themselves into the social fabric by whining and complaining about discussions of resistance to that being "derogatory".
Tough.
