Right Wingers eating crow on price of gasoline. $1.39 in Indiana.

[jc456]

it isn't hate when it is what one is, and libturd is an unwanting to think for oneself human being.

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

Of course they do, dupe. Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc. AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

college cost went down? where?

college loan cost, I said. You CAN"T read. Meanwhile, public university costs DOUBLED just under Booosh. Duh.

what cost? A loan is a loan is a loan. The money is for tuition. So where are the cuts?

 

[francoHFW]

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

Of course they do, dupe. Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc. AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

college cost went down? where?

college loan cost, I said. You CAN"T read. Meanwhile, public university costs DOUBLED just under Booosh. Duh.

what cost? A loan is a loan is a loan. The money is for tuition. So where are the cuts?

Don't be obtuse. Read something.

 

[jc456]

Yeah.....it chaps any real red blooded Right Wing American any time we don't have a few of America's youth dying every week or two 10,000 miles from home in a goddam desert. Don't you people ever pay attention:

I suppose you're fine with tens of thousands of innocent civilians being raped and killed by ISIS every week or two...causing one of the largest migrations of refugees in memory? American used to be the country the world could count on to defend the weak...now we're the country that "leads from behind"...whatever the hell that means!

he's probably happy about the fourteen deaths in San Bernardino, and the little secret that let the wifee in without a background check for the marriage visa. Now it's 41 thousand of these muslims besides the female shooter were allowed in with a secret non screening no one knew about until yesterday I supposed. But hey, the government should never had allowed old bride-o into the country. NEVER, the agency admits it. Ouch, so now we have Benghazi and San Bernardino on Obama's hands.

Bush had repeated warnings about the Al Queda attacking the U S using commercial aircraft but he was too busy working on his two tax cuts for the wealthy(2001 and 2003) to pay any attention to it. 3000 innocent, dead Americans later he declared war on the wrong country. Iraq didn't have a goddam thing to do with it.

yeah ok bubba, why didn't Clinton just take care of this mess when he had it then. you wish to blame someone let's blame Bill. I mean it started in the garage in New York under slick Willie.

The perpetrators have been convicted and punished.....read all about it:

The 1993 World Trade Center bombers: Where are they now?

And the beauty of it is we didn't lose 4500 young Americans getting it done.

hmmm, seems they took down two major buildings on our homeland and killed over 3000, so Bill did absolutely nothing. Not a damn thing, he let the seed grow. So if you wish to blame bush, you must blame Slick Willie equal. And obama gets all the blame on San Bernardino.

 

[jc456]

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

Of course they do, dupe. Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc. AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

college cost went down? where?

college loan cost, I said. You CAN"T read. Meanwhile, public university costs DOUBLED just under Booosh. Duh.

what cost? A loan is a loan is a loan. The money is for tuition. So where are the cuts?

Don't be obtuse. Read something.

what changed? if tuition is 100k just a loan on 100k is quite large, so what cost went down? Come on dude, you said, explain what costs went down? Or were you being funny and didn't mean that and you were just lying some more? I bet that's it, since it is a libturd's nature to lie.

 

[Papageorgio]

And turd, hater dupe.

it isn't hate when it is what one is, and libturd is an unwanting to think for oneself human being.

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

 

[Campbell]

Yeah.....it chaps any real red blooded Right Wing American any time we don't have a few of America's youth dying every week or two 10,000 miles from home in a goddam desert. Don't you people ever pay attention:

I suppose you're fine with tens of thousands of innocent civilians being raped and killed by ISIS every week or two...causing one of the largest migrations of refugees in memory? American used to be the country the world could count on to defend the weak...now we're the country that "leads from behind"...whatever the hell that means!

he's probably happy about the fourteen deaths in San Bernardino, and the little secret that let the wifee in without a background check for the marriage visa. Now it's 41 thousand of these muslims besides the female shooter were allowed in with a secret non screening no one knew about until yesterday I supposed. But hey, the government should never had allowed old bride-o into the country. NEVER, the agency admits it. Ouch, so now we have Benghazi and San Bernardino on Obama's hands.

Bush had repeated warnings about the Al Queda attacking the U S using commercial aircraft but he was too busy working on his two tax cuts for the wealthy(2001 and 2003) to pay any attention to it. 3000 innocent, dead Americans later he declared war on the wrong country. Iraq didn't have a goddam thing to do with it.

Well if you're going to blame Bush entirely for 911, then I'm assuming you also blame Bill Clinton for the Oklahoma City bombing?

May 16, 2002, 10:31 AM
What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

No. Bush and Cheney ignored his terrorism czar and all kinds of warnings. Then attacked a country that had nothing to do with it...

That's exactly what they did. Bush was pissed at Saddam Hussein for attempting to assassinate his daddy in Qatar circa 1993 and the entire Republican party geared everything they did using the same hatred. Saddam Hussein was a bad dictator but hell fire....those pricks are all over the world. Bush and company sacrificed 4500 lives and another 35,000 wounded for personal reasons. Even now......they should pull the asshole in and try him for treason.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course they do, dupe. Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc. AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!! And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

college cost went down? where?

college loan cost, I said. You CAN"T read. Meanwhile, public university costs DOUBLED just under Booosh. Duh.

what cost? A loan is a loan is a loan. The money is for tuition. So where are the cuts?

Don't be obtuse. Read something.

what changed? if tuition is 100k just a loan on 100k is quite large, so what cost went down? Come on dude, you said, explain what costs went down? Or were you being funny and didn't mean that and you were just lying some more? I bet that's it, since it is a libturd's nature to lie.

Obama cut interest rates, proposed 10% of income limit on payments, etc. Probably blocked by Pubs. Like lifetime limit, % limit, etc etc infrastructure job bank, living wage...

 

[francoHFW]

I suppose you're fine with tens of thousands of innocent civilians being raped and killed by ISIS every week or two...causing one of the largest migrations of refugees in memory? American used to be the country the world could count on to defend the weak...now we're the country that "leads from behind"...whatever the hell that means!

he's probably happy about the fourteen deaths in San Bernardino, and the little secret that let the wifee in without a background check for the marriage visa. Now it's 41 thousand of these muslims besides the female shooter were allowed in with a secret non screening no one knew about until yesterday I supposed. But hey, the government should never had allowed old bride-o into the country. NEVER, the agency admits it. Ouch, so now we have Benghazi and San Bernardino on Obama's hands.

Bush had repeated warnings about the Al Queda attacking the U S using commercial aircraft but he was too busy working on his two tax cuts for the wealthy(2001 and 2003) to pay any attention to it. 3000 innocent, dead Americans later he declared war on the wrong country. Iraq didn't have a goddam thing to do with it.

yeah ok bubba, why didn't Clinton just take care of this mess when he had it then. you wish to blame someone let's blame Bill. I mean it started in the garage in New York under slick Willie.

The perpetrators have been convicted and punished.....read all about it:

The 1993 World Trade Center bombers: Where are they now?

And the beauty of it is we didn't lose 4500 young Americans getting it done.

hmmm, seems they took down two major buildings on our homeland and killed over 3000, so Bill did absolutely nothing. Not a damn thing, he let the seed grow. So if you wish to blame bush, you must blame Slick Willie equal. And obama gets all the blame on San Bernardino.

BS. Bill was just wagging the dog, right? Are you a liar or just duped? Always the question with GOPers...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I suppose you're fine with tens of thousands of innocent civilians being raped and killed by ISIS every week or two...causing one of the largest migrations of refugees in memory? American used to be the country the world could count on to defend the weak...now we're the country that "leads from behind"...whatever the hell that means!

he's probably happy about the fourteen deaths in San Bernardino, and the little secret that let the wifee in without a background check for the marriage visa. Now it's 41 thousand of these muslims besides the female shooter were allowed in with a secret non screening no one knew about until yesterday I supposed. But hey, the government should never had allowed old bride-o into the country. NEVER, the agency admits it. Ouch, so now we have Benghazi and San Bernardino on Obama's hands.

Bush had repeated warnings about the Al Queda attacking the U S using commercial aircraft but he was too busy working on his two tax cuts for the wealthy(2001 and 2003) to pay any attention to it. 3000 innocent, dead Americans later he declared war on the wrong country. Iraq didn't have a goddam thing to do with it.

Well if you're going to blame Bush entirely for 911, then I'm assuming you also blame Bill Clinton for the Oklahoma City bombing?

May 16, 2002, 10:31 AM
What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

No. Bush and Cheney ignored his terrorism czar and all kinds of warnings. Then attacked a country that had nothing to do with it...

That's exactly what they did. Bush was pissed at Saddam Hussein for attempting to assassinate his daddy in Qatar circa 1993 and the entire Republican party geared everything they did using the same hatred. Saddam Hussein was a bad dictator but hell fire....those pricks are all over the world. Bush and company sacrificed 4500 lives and another 35,000 wounded for personal reasons. Even now......they should pull the asshole in and try him for treason.

Try him for treason? Why, because of the shit liberals make up in their heads like we went to war because of his father?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

it isn't hate when it is what one is, and libturd is an unwanting to think for oneself human being.

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

I lost my coverage as well. My employer didn't want to deal with it anymore and realized it would only get worse under Commie Care. Any plan affordable sucks big time with huge deductibles and out of pocket payments. No wonder United Health is seriously considering dropping out of Commie Care.

I was without insurance for a while (first time in my 55 years on this earth) thanks to the Commies and had a health problem. So I got insurance and found out that not all insurance companies will cover preexisting condition the way the lying libs told us it would. It's only for the plans offered by Commie Care which you can only sign up for during enrollment.

Every time a Democrat gets into office, it costs me money. This time it cost me a lot of money. That's one good reason to always vote Republican. Keep the money suckers out of power.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah.....it chaps any real red blooded Right Wing American any time we don't have a few of America's youth dying every week or two 10,000 miles from home in a goddam desert. Don't you people ever pay attention:

I suppose you're fine with tens of thousands of innocent civilians being raped and killed by ISIS every week or two...causing one of the largest migrations of refugees in memory? American used to be the country the world could count on to defend the weak...now we're the country that "leads from behind"...whatever the hell that means!

he's probably happy about the fourteen deaths in San Bernardino, and the little secret that let the wifee in without a background check for the marriage visa. Now it's 41 thousand of these muslims besides the female shooter were allowed in with a secret non screening no one knew about until yesterday I supposed. But hey, the government should never had allowed old bride-o into the country. NEVER, the agency admits it. Ouch, so now we have Benghazi and San Bernardino on Obama's hands.

Bush had repeated warnings about the Al Queda attacking the U S using commercial aircraft but he was too busy working on his two tax cuts for the wealthy(2001 and 2003) to pay any attention to it. 3000 innocent, dead Americans later he declared war on the wrong country. Iraq didn't have a goddam thing to do with it.

Well if you're going to blame Bush entirely for 911, then I'm assuming you also blame Bill Clinton for the Oklahoma City bombing?

May 16, 2002, 10:31 AM
What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

What Bush Knew Before Sept. 11

No. Bush and Cheney ignored his terrorism czar and all kinds of warnings. Then attacked a country that had nothing to do with it...

Learn how to read. The story is from MSM for crying out loud.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Paid $1.79 in south Texas yesterday........

When gas goes high....it's Obama's fault....when it is low, oh well, it's something else.

Damn rw will never admit that Obama is a hell of a lot better president than G W Doofus ever was.

So do tell: what were we hearing from the libs when gasoline went so high under Bush? That it certainly wasn't the Presidents fault?

Ray, what action did Bush take that Obama has avoided? (Concerning gasoline prices is the subject)

Bush invaded an oil producing country in the ME. It was a forgone conclusion the oil prices would rise when the invasion happened.

Obama hasnt done that.
Thats how I blame Bush for the gas price increases and dont give Obama credit for dropping prices.

We got drilled so to speak by the oil companies during the Bush years.
Maybe you recall the record breaking profits posted by oil companies during that period.

Oil companies loved Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

Thats why the neo cons are so ready to invade somewhere that instability will effect crude oil prices.
Oil companies arent making record profits at the present.

Regualr old Americans are currently reaping the rewards of the market. To much supply/to little demand market.

And Republicans hate it when regular people get a benefit while their oil company buddies dont.

So its off to war we go sometime after Obamas gone.

Till then, enjoy. You a truck driver? Your company (or you) are really enjoying these fuel prices. Right?

Not really. You see, during the Bush administration, the EPA passed stringent regulations to make diesel fuel greener. They lowered the sulfur content to 5% and since that time, diesel fuel has averaged a dollar a gallon more over gasoline whereas before, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline.

This is not to mention all the pollution crap trucks have to be equipped with today. Today a new tractor costs around 10 grand more than it did say ten years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution crap the feds made them manufacture the vehicle with. They came up with this new stuff called (DEF) Diesel Emission Fluid. Yes, you see, it's a separate tank that holds DEF and must be filled just like with gasoline. A great added expense to the transportation industry.

As for oil prices, let me explain how that works:

Oil companies don't set the prices for their oil--the commodities market does. They base their investments on the news of fuel at the time. Bush sparked a worldwide economic uplift that caused the price of fuel to increase greatly. The more economic activity, the more fuel consumption. When speculators get news of that consumption, they buy long contracts which drives the price up. Bush had no control of it and neither did the oil companies.

As for your theory that gasoline increased because of the war, take a look at gasoline prices below:

View attachment 56931

The Iraq war started in 2003 during a bad economy. It hovered between $2.00 and $3.00 per gallon until early 2008. That's when there was a lot of economic activity until the housing crash late 2008.

The Iraq war had some minor effects, but it certainly wasn't the reason we hit $4.00 a gallon in mid 2008--five years after the war started.

Several reasons- including out of control Pub oil speculators under Pub "regulation".... But thanks for the corrupt bubble bust world depression and the stupidest wars ever, AND 7 years of mindless obstruction.

Clueless. There is nothing anybody can do about the market. It's been running this way for decades before Bush was even born. You have no idea WTF you're talking about, and the regulations haven't changed in years.

 

[francoHFW]

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

I lost my coverage as well. My employer didn't want to deal with it anymore and realized it would only get worse under Commie Care. Any plan affordable sucks big time with huge deductibles and out of pocket payments. No wonder United Health is seriously considering dropping out of Commie Care.

I was without insurance for a while (first time in my 55 years on this earth) thanks to the Commies and had a health problem. So I got insurance and found out that not all insurance companies will cover preexisting condition the way the lying libs told us it would. It's only for the plans offered by Commie Care which you can only sign up for during enrollment.

Every time a Democrat gets into office, it costs me money. This time it cost me a lot of money. That's one good reason to always vote Republican. Keep the money suckers out of power.

Now you have guaranteed good insurance. You're welcome. And will only get relatively cheaper.

 

[francoHFW]

Paid $1.79 in south Texas yesterday........

When gas goes high....it's Obama's fault....when it is low, oh well, it's something else.

Damn rw will never admit that Obama is a hell of a lot better president than G W Doofus ever was.

So do tell: what were we hearing from the libs when gasoline went so high under Bush? That it certainly wasn't the Presidents fault?

Ray, what action did Bush take that Obama has avoided? (Concerning gasoline prices is the subject)

Bush invaded an oil producing country in the ME. It was a forgone conclusion the oil prices would rise when the invasion happened.

Obama hasnt done that.
Thats how I blame Bush for the gas price increases and dont give Obama credit for dropping prices.

We got drilled so to speak by the oil companies during the Bush years.
Maybe you recall the record breaking profits posted by oil companies during that period.

Oil companies loved Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

Thats why the neo cons are so ready to invade somewhere that instability will effect crude oil prices.
Oil companies arent making record profits at the present.

Regualr old Americans are currently reaping the rewards of the market. To much supply/to little demand market.

And Republicans hate it when regular people get a benefit while their oil company buddies dont.

So its off to war we go sometime after Obamas gone.

Till then, enjoy. You a truck driver? Your company (or you) are really enjoying these fuel prices. Right?

Not really. You see, during the Bush administration, the EPA passed stringent regulations to make diesel fuel greener. They lowered the sulfur content to 5% and since that time, diesel fuel has averaged a dollar a gallon more over gasoline whereas before, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline.

This is not to mention all the pollution crap trucks have to be equipped with today. Today a new tractor costs around 10 grand more than it did say ten years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution crap the feds made them manufacture the vehicle with. They came up with this new stuff called (DEF) Diesel Emission Fluid. Yes, you see, it's a separate tank that holds DEF and must be filled just like with gasoline. A great added expense to the transportation industry.

As for oil prices, let me explain how that works:

Oil companies don't set the prices for their oil--the commodities market does. They base their investments on the news of fuel at the time. Bush sparked a worldwide economic uplift that caused the price of fuel to increase greatly. The more economic activity, the more fuel consumption. When speculators get news of that consumption, they buy long contracts which drives the price up. Bush had no control of it and neither did the oil companies.

As for your theory that gasoline increased because of the war, take a look at gasoline prices below:

View attachment 56931

The Iraq war started in 2003 during a bad economy. It hovered between $2.00 and $3.00 per gallon until early 2008. That's when there was a lot of economic activity until the housing crash late 2008.

The Iraq war had some minor effects, but it certainly wasn't the reason we hit $4.00 a gallon in mid 2008--five years after the war started.

Several reasons- including out of control Pub oil speculators under Pub "regulation".... But thanks for the corrupt bubble bust world depression and the stupidest wars ever, AND 7 years of mindless obstruction.

Clueless. There is nothing anybody can do about the market. It's been running this way for decades before Bush was even born. You have no idea WTF you're talking about, and the regulations haven't changed in years.

Just the corrupt regulators.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

I lost my coverage as well. My employer didn't want to deal with it anymore and realized it would only get worse under Commie Care. Any plan affordable sucks big time with huge deductibles and out of pocket payments. No wonder United Health is seriously considering dropping out of Commie Care.

I was without insurance for a while (first time in my 55 years on this earth) thanks to the Commies and had a health problem. So I got insurance and found out that not all insurance companies will cover preexisting condition the way the lying libs told us it would. It's only for the plans offered by Commie Care which you can only sign up for during enrollment.

Every time a Democrat gets into office, it costs me money. This time it cost me a lot of money. That's one good reason to always vote Republican. Keep the money suckers out of power.

Now you have guaranteed good insurance. You're welcome. And will only get relatively cheaper.

There is nothing guaranteed about it. They are not paying the medical bills because of preexisting condition.

If I had my employers coverage back, I would never have been in this position. But because of the Communists, I'm now screwed for at least the next year and probably beyond that. And no, Commie Care is not getting cheaper, it's getting more expensive.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So do tell: what were we hearing from the libs when gasoline went so high under Bush? That it certainly wasn't the Presidents fault?

Ray, what action did Bush take that Obama has avoided? (Concerning gasoline prices is the subject)

Bush invaded an oil producing country in the ME. It was a forgone conclusion the oil prices would rise when the invasion happened.

Obama hasnt done that.
Thats how I blame Bush for the gas price increases and dont give Obama credit for dropping prices.

We got drilled so to speak by the oil companies during the Bush years.
Maybe you recall the record breaking profits posted by oil companies during that period.

Oil companies loved Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

Thats why the neo cons are so ready to invade somewhere that instability will effect crude oil prices.
Oil companies arent making record profits at the present.

Regualr old Americans are currently reaping the rewards of the market. To much supply/to little demand market.

And Republicans hate it when regular people get a benefit while their oil company buddies dont.

So its off to war we go sometime after Obamas gone.

Till then, enjoy. You a truck driver? Your company (or you) are really enjoying these fuel prices. Right?

Not really. You see, during the Bush administration, the EPA passed stringent regulations to make diesel fuel greener. They lowered the sulfur content to 5% and since that time, diesel fuel has averaged a dollar a gallon more over gasoline whereas before, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline.

This is not to mention all the pollution crap trucks have to be equipped with today. Today a new tractor costs around 10 grand more than it did say ten years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution crap the feds made them manufacture the vehicle with. They came up with this new stuff called (DEF) Diesel Emission Fluid. Yes, you see, it's a separate tank that holds DEF and must be filled just like with gasoline. A great added expense to the transportation industry.

As for oil prices, let me explain how that works:

Oil companies don't set the prices for their oil--the commodities market does. They base their investments on the news of fuel at the time. Bush sparked a worldwide economic uplift that caused the price of fuel to increase greatly. The more economic activity, the more fuel consumption. When speculators get news of that consumption, they buy long contracts which drives the price up. Bush had no control of it and neither did the oil companies.

As for your theory that gasoline increased because of the war, take a look at gasoline prices below:

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The Iraq war started in 2003 during a bad economy. It hovered between $2.00 and $3.00 per gallon until early 2008. That's when there was a lot of economic activity until the housing crash late 2008.

The Iraq war had some minor effects, but it certainly wasn't the reason we hit $4.00 a gallon in mid 2008--five years after the war started.

Several reasons- including out of control Pub oil speculators under Pub "regulation".... But thanks for the corrupt bubble bust world depression and the stupidest wars ever, AND 7 years of mindless obstruction.

Clueless. There is nothing anybody can do about the market. It's been running this way for decades before Bush was even born. You have no idea WTF you're talking about, and the regulations haven't changed in years.

Just the corrupt regulators.

There is nothing corrupt about buying or selling commodities. Why are you trying to comment on something you have absolutely no clue about anyway?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ray, what action did Bush take that Obama has avoided? (Concerning gasoline prices is the subject)

Bush invaded an oil producing country in the ME. It was a forgone conclusion the oil prices would rise when the invasion happened.

Obama hasnt done that.
Thats how I blame Bush for the gas price increases and dont give Obama credit for dropping prices.

We got drilled so to speak by the oil companies during the Bush years.
Maybe you recall the record breaking profits posted by oil companies during that period.

Oil companies loved Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

Thats why the neo cons are so ready to invade somewhere that instability will effect crude oil prices.
Oil companies arent making record profits at the present.

Regualr old Americans are currently reaping the rewards of the market. To much supply/to little demand market.

And Republicans hate it when regular people get a benefit while their oil company buddies dont.

So its off to war we go sometime after Obamas gone.

Till then, enjoy. You a truck driver? Your company (or you) are really enjoying these fuel prices. Right?

Not really. You see, during the Bush administration, the EPA passed stringent regulations to make diesel fuel greener. They lowered the sulfur content to 5% and since that time, diesel fuel has averaged a dollar a gallon more over gasoline whereas before, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline.

This is not to mention all the pollution crap trucks have to be equipped with today. Today a new tractor costs around 10 grand more than it did say ten years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution crap the feds made them manufacture the vehicle with. They came up with this new stuff called (DEF) Diesel Emission Fluid. Yes, you see, it's a separate tank that holds DEF and must be filled just like with gasoline. A great added expense to the transportation industry.

As for oil prices, let me explain how that works:

Oil companies don't set the prices for their oil--the commodities market does. They base their investments on the news of fuel at the time. Bush sparked a worldwide economic uplift that caused the price of fuel to increase greatly. The more economic activity, the more fuel consumption. When speculators get news of that consumption, they buy long contracts which drives the price up. Bush had no control of it and neither did the oil companies.

As for your theory that gasoline increased because of the war, take a look at gasoline prices below:

View attachment 56931

The Iraq war started in 2003 during a bad economy. It hovered between $2.00 and $3.00 per gallon until early 2008. That's when there was a lot of economic activity until the housing crash late 2008.

The Iraq war had some minor effects, but it certainly wasn't the reason we hit $4.00 a gallon in mid 2008--five years after the war started.

Several reasons- including out of control Pub oil speculators under Pub "regulation".... But thanks for the corrupt bubble bust world depression and the stupidest wars ever, AND 7 years of mindless obstruction.

Clueless. There is nothing anybody can do about the market. It's been running this way for decades before Bush was even born. You have no idea WTF you're talking about, and the regulations haven't changed in years.

Just the corrupt regulators.

There is nothing corrupt about buying or selling commodities. Why are you trying to comment on something you have absolutely no clue about anyway?

Why are you trying to comment on something you have absolutely no clue about anyway?

That's what liberals do best!

 

[francoHFW]

So do tell: what were we hearing from the libs when gasoline went so high under Bush? That it certainly wasn't the Presidents fault?

Ray, what action did Bush take that Obama has avoided? (Concerning gasoline prices is the subject)

Bush invaded an oil producing country in the ME. It was a forgone conclusion the oil prices would rise when the invasion happened.

Obama hasnt done that.
Thats how I blame Bush for the gas price increases and dont give Obama credit for dropping prices.

We got drilled so to speak by the oil companies during the Bush years.
Maybe you recall the record breaking profits posted by oil companies during that period.

Oil companies loved Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

Thats why the neo cons are so ready to invade somewhere that instability will effect crude oil prices.
Oil companies arent making record profits at the present.

Regualr old Americans are currently reaping the rewards of the market. To much supply/to little demand market.

And Republicans hate it when regular people get a benefit while their oil company buddies dont.

So its off to war we go sometime after Obamas gone.

Till then, enjoy. You a truck driver? Your company (or you) are really enjoying these fuel prices. Right?

Not really. You see, during the Bush administration, the EPA passed stringent regulations to make diesel fuel greener. They lowered the sulfur content to 5% and since that time, diesel fuel has averaged a dollar a gallon more over gasoline whereas before, diesel fuel was always cheaper than gasoline.

This is not to mention all the pollution crap trucks have to be equipped with today. Today a new tractor costs around 10 grand more than it did say ten years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution crap the feds made them manufacture the vehicle with. They came up with this new stuff called (DEF) Diesel Emission Fluid. Yes, you see, it's a separate tank that holds DEF and must be filled just like with gasoline. A great added expense to the transportation industry.

As for oil prices, let me explain how that works:

Oil companies don't set the prices for their oil--the commodities market does. They base their investments on the news of fuel at the time. Bush sparked a worldwide economic uplift that caused the price of fuel to increase greatly. The more economic activity, the more fuel consumption. When speculators get news of that consumption, they buy long contracts which drives the price up. Bush had no control of it and neither did the oil companies.

As for your theory that gasoline increased because of the war, take a look at gasoline prices below:

View attachment 56931

The Iraq war started in 2003 during a bad economy. It hovered between $2.00 and $3.00 per gallon until early 2008. That's when there was a lot of economic activity until the housing crash late 2008.

The Iraq war had some minor effects, but it certainly wasn't the reason we hit $4.00 a gallon in mid 2008--five years after the war started.

Several reasons- including out of control Pub oil speculators under Pub "regulation".... But thanks for the corrupt bubble bust world depression and the stupidest wars ever, AND 7 years of mindless obstruction.

Clueless. There is nothing anybody can do about the market. It's been running this way for decades before Bush was even born. You have no idea WTF you're talking about, and the regulations haven't changed in years.

Just the corrupt regulators.

See the mortgage market in 2002-03. The regulations didn't change then either.

 

[francoHFW]

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

I lost my coverage as well. My employer didn't want to deal with it anymore and realized it would only get worse under Commie Care. Any plan affordable sucks big time with huge deductibles and out of pocket payments. No wonder United Health is seriously considering dropping out of Commie Care.

I was without insurance for a while (first time in my 55 years on this earth) thanks to the Commies and had a health problem. So I got insurance and found out that not all insurance companies will cover preexisting condition the way the lying libs told us it would. It's only for the plans offered by Commie Care which you can only sign up for during enrollment.

Every time a Democrat gets into office, it costs me money. This time it cost me a lot of money. That's one good reason to always vote Republican. Keep the money suckers out of power.

Now you have guaranteed good insurance. You're welcome. And will only get relatively cheaper.

There is nothing guaranteed about it. They are not paying the medical bills because of preexisting condition.

If I had my employers coverage back, I would never have been in this position. But because of the Communists, I'm now screwed for at least the next year and probably beyond that. And no, Commie Care is not getting cheaper, it's getting more expensive.

Enroll, poor dupe. Ay caramba. And get your subsidy. Screwed by the lying GOP again...

 

[Papageorgio]

Yup , it's a conspiracy, only Rush and Fox know the facts lol...

and there's the obsession with Fox and Rush. I don't do either, but still, do they lie? Do they report different news than the broadcast channels? Nope. So it only means you are obsessed with them. hahahahahahahaahhaahahaa, you're like a good perfume, obsession.

I don't watch or listen to either, it's the left's knee jerk reaction when they have nothing else.

That's why they do it all the time, because the have nothing.

Same crap as all the other Murdoch Koch Adelson Moonie outlets. Obama won't compromise, had total control for 2 years, see sig...ACORN, Kenyan Muslim Marxist,Tides, Mosque, Death Panel, lose your doctor, huge costs, DEBT CRISIS, Obama Recession, stimulus failed, Barney Frank, Nazi Soros, Nazi socialists, Volt suqs, Iran making bomb etc etc.

AND don't report so much- After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!And you complain about the victims? Are you an idiot or an A-hole?

Nothing but hate. He had two years and couldn't build consensus. The losing of health plans is true, I lost mine. It was a high deductible, lost cost catastrophic plan. I negotiated with my doctor for his rates and were a lot lower than what you and others that were insured paid.

The acorn and other crap is nothing I hung my hat on. You are a hate filled asshole who is stuck on knee jerk responses. You have nothing else. You are a joke, hater dupe.

I lost my coverage as well. My employer didn't want to deal with it anymore and realized it would only get worse under Commie Care. Any plan affordable sucks big time with huge deductibles and out of pocket payments. No wonder United Health is seriously considering dropping out of Commie Care.

I was without insurance for a while (first time in my 55 years on this earth) thanks to the Commies and had a health problem. So I got insurance and found out that not all insurance companies will cover preexisting condition the way the lying libs told us it would. It's only for the plans offered by Commie Care which you can only sign up for during enrollment.

Every time a Democrat gets into office, it costs me money. This time it cost me a lot of money. That's one good reason to always vote Republican. Keep the money suckers out of power.

Yep, $649 a month for just myself. My wife isn't covered and my company won't be able to cover her because the cost would be more than the open market.

The blood test for prostrate cancer, not covered, my colonoscopy not covered. If I get pregnant or want the pill, it's covered. Being a male, don't need it. $1600 deductible, then 80/20.

I want my old policy that Obama said I could keep.