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One should not have to be forced to prove innocence from kangaroo investigations and kangaroo courts brought on by kangaroo law enforcement doing the bidding of a particular political party. That's like Putin telling Navalny to prove his innocence in court.Then prove that in court.
If you cherish democratic self rule you have to start with being neutral on a grand jury indictment of a former president’s
alleged actions to overturn the 2020 election that he lost as if he is absolutely no different from any other citizen who is suspected to violate any serious law.
We must assume he is innocent until proven guilty.
We cannot assume he is innocent because he has political enemies and therefore never to be put on trial.
His attempt to stay in power caused needless violence that day and there is ample evidence, fully Republican witnesses and things we saw unfold on Jan 6 to justify bring him to trial where he can prove he is innocent by convincing one juror out of twelve that he is.
Trump is not innocent by virtue of having fifty million voters who need him to be innocent to save their faces. Many for the sake of Jesus and the face of God as well. Since many believe he was anointed by God to be President to save Baby Fetus in the first place.
ndpndntthnkr.23.08.02 #10,077
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We humans have had a longstanding definition of when public sanctity of life begins. By sanctity of life I mean society’s duty outside of religion to provide equal protection under the law of right to life. It begins when live birth happens to a gestating fetus.
I wrote in post #10,067 that we have had a longstanding definition of when public sanctity of life begins. Personhood has never been legal public life prior to birth.Only issue is life begins before birth.
If a sitting president can’t uphold the Constitution when an election does not go the way you hoped do not run for office where you have to take an oath to uphold it if you cannot. Uphold it.One should not have to be forced to prove innocence from kangaroo investigations and kangaroo courts brought on by kangaroo law enforcement doing the bidding of a particular political party.
Democrats have been claiming election fraud for decades.If a sitting president can’t uphold the Constitution when an election does not go the way you hoped do not run for office where you have to take an oath to uphold it if you cannot. Uphold it.
December 14 or thereabouts was the safe harbor date for states to certify their results for the 2020 Presidential Election. All states made it to safe harbor. The election was over with absolutely no constitutional means to overturn the will of the people to be rid of the Donald and hus mayhem.
Trump risked violating the constitution and willfully breaking federal law when he decided to enact a conspiracy to stay in power by committing fraud against the government by not counting votes in seven states that went to Biden. The means to not count votes was fraud referred to as the fake electors scheme
Trump has a right to claim election fraud and still does. He does not have a right to act on it in the way that he did to overturn a settled election.Democrats have been claiming election fraud for decades.
Democrats took action. Where are their indictments?Trump has a right to claim election fraud and still does. He does not have a right to act on it in the way that he did to overturn a settled election.
No democrat presidential contender while sitting in the Oval Office has continued to claim outcome-determinative fraud in any state after the mid December safe harbor Constitutional deadline, Gore dropped his challenge and conceded Florida befire Safe Harbor and never became a sore loser like Trump.
Trump whining.
Trump’s action was fake electors for Pence to commit fraud by burning the Constitution and the voters in seven Biden states and declare Trump/Pence the winner on Jan6.Democrats took action.
No one is above the law in America.One should not have to be forced to prove innocence from kangaroo investigations and kangaroo courts brought on by kangaroo law enforcement doing the bidding of a particular political party.
If Trump did not get elected and appoint three Catholic judges to the Supreme Court, there would not be the necessity for this thread.Yet you keep spamming this thread with off topic nonsense.
I will challenge your point and see what you do.Can this prolapsed asshole @NotfooledbyW manage to stay on topic -
Fuck’s sake - shut up.
You just showed your political bias.Then prove that in court.
If you cherish democratic self rule you have to start with being neutral on a grand jury indictment of a former president’s
alleged actions to overturn the 2020 election that he lost as if he is absolutely no different from any other citizen who is suspected to violate any serious law.
We must assume he is innocent until proven guilty.
We cannot assume he is innocent because he has political enemies and therefore never to be put on trial.
His attempt to stay in power caused needless violence that day and there is ample evidence, fully Republican witnesses and things we saw unfold on Jan 6 to justify bring him to trial where he can prove he is innocent by convincing one juror out of twelve that he is.
Trump is not innocent by virtue of having fifty million voters who need him to be innocent to save their faces. Many for the sake of Jesus and the face of God as well. Since many believe he was anointed by God to be President to save Baby Fetus in the first place.
ndpndntthnkr.23.08.02 #10,077
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So I was right......Thank you.I wrote in post #10,067 that we have had a longstanding definition of when public sanctity of life begins. Personhood has never been legal public life prior to birth.
Life begins at conception but amongst our pea pickin’ selves we are morally and legally amenable as a secular model society to applying sanctity of life at first breath. Those that seek to sanctify biological life earlier than first breath based on this or that religion are free yyum
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So, I am not sure (in fact I am anything but sure) that Trump could prevail in 2024
I don't agree with extremists. I agree with the SCOTUS.
No you are wrong. Biological life begins at conception Legsl life begins at first breath in thecZunited States of America.So I was right..
So life begins at conception......like I said. Is this like being constrained from admitting there are only two biological outcomes at conception?No you are wrong. Biological life begins at conception Legsl life begins at first breath in thecZunited States of America.
