Romney's Swiss bank account

[JoeB131]

True.

A demagogue politician's job is to use taxpayers funds to support boondoggles. The zombified populace do not know their ass from a hole in the ground.

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Nice attitude.

But here's the problem with that thinking. It's the businessman who has made so many dependent on government.

Take Romney (Please). He eliminated good union jobs at AmPad, at GS Steel, at DDi. Moved some of those jobs overseas, or bought from foreign sources. But he will brag endlessly about how he created 100,000 jobs at places like Dominos Pizza at Staples.

Jobs that pay minimum wage, have no benefits, and require very little skill. Essentially, "McJobs".

The problem with "creating" McJobs is that if you are anything but a teen or college student doing them, then you are going to need help getting by in life. You are going to apply for food stamps (fun fact- 40% of people using food stamps have jobs) you are going to apply for Section 8 housing to help with the rent, you're going to need Medicaid for medical coverage for your family, and so on. And once you realize the government is doing more for you if you just vote for Democrats than your employer does for you if you bust your hump 40+ hours a week, that's an incentive to vote for Democrats.

This is where Republicans I think have become self-defeating. A lot of what the GOP stands for is still admirable. Self-reliance, hard work, limited government. But because the Establishment has put the greed of a few over the good for the many, and support union busting, offshoring and other offenses against the middle class, they shouldn't be surprised when the people they are trying to reach vote Democratic. Which is pretty much what happened in 2008.

 

[Oldstyle]

So now Romney is a mediocre businessman? Gee, Joe...how do you figure? The reason he has millions that he has to put into blind trusts while he runs for political office is that he was a very good businessman.

As for which of our politicians WERE business owners? Many of the Founding Fathers were business owners who took time off from that to help run the Federal Government. Your contention that only politicians have the skills to run our government is hilarious. Our exploding debt is proof that isn't the case.

 

[editec]

Knowing how to squeeze profits out of a business is not evidence of competence to run a nation.

In fact, it is more likely to make you less qualified to run a government since your focus will be on the bottom line instead of the welfare of the people.

Businessmen make truly lousy leaders of nations.

 

[JoeB131]

So now Romney is a mediocre businessman? Gee, Joe...how do you figure? The reason he has millions that he has to put into blind trusts while he runs for political office is that he was a very good businessman.

As for which of our politicians WERE business owners? Many of the Founding Fathers were business owners who took time off from that to help run the Federal Government. Your contention that only politicians have the skills to run our government is hilarious. Our exploding debt is proof that isn't the case.

I'm reasonably sure he was very good at hiring people who did all the work he took the credit for, which is what most successful people do.

There are those who do the work and those who take the credit.

But Romney was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.

 

[Contumacious]

But here's the problem with that thinking. It's the businessman who has made so many dependent on government.

Franklin Del-anus Roosevelt was a businessman?

Didn't he forge a nation where the government is master and the citizen a hapless pawn. Didn't he implement the Marxist concept that government is an agency for delivering a measure of happiness.

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[JoeB131]

But here's the problem with that thinking. It's the businessman who has made so many dependent on government.

Franklin Del-anus Roosevelt was a businessman?

Didn't he forge a nation where the government is master and the citizen a hapless pawn. Didn't he implement the Marxist concept that government is an agency for delivering a measure of happiness.

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Uh, no. He didn't. But if you need to think that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.

What's your alternative to a safety net? Letting people fall and die? I think there is a lot wrong with the way welfare is admininstered, not the least of which is calling it an "entitlement" when it is in fact a charity. But the alternative to having it would be a lot worse.

The problem is, the firewall between socialism and the wealthy has always been a middle class. One making enough from their labors to not sign on to the kind of welfare state you fear. There is always more satisfaction from earning than charity, which is why earning should be encouraged.

And Mittens and people like him have been slowly demolishing it. Short term profit, long term pain.

Someone as radical as Obama is would have NEVER gotten elected 20 years ago. The election of Clinton was really the Democrats kind of conceding the point between socialism and capitalism.

 

[Contumacious]

[Uh, no. He didn't. But if you need to think that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.
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Oh yes he did.

But if you need to deny that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.


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[The T]

More Class warfare rhetoric by the OP. Good job.

When having such accounts becomes illegal in this nation... Let us know, will you?

 

[JoeB131]

[Uh, no. He didn't. But if you need to think that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.
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Oh yes he did.

But if you need to deny that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.


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big corporations did very well under FDR. So did the rich, and the middle class expanded.

So, uh, no, FDR was not a "Marxist".

 

[Toro]

You are probably the most biased person here. You are so bad, its laughable. You are worse than Truthmatters.

Either that, or you are the dumbest person here.

True story.

This is Romney's whole argument, though, isn't it? I'm the big economic genius who can fix the economy, even though all my solutions are the exact same crap Bush proposed back in the Oughts and we all see how well that turned out.

And now we find out that all his money is in Blind trusts and he hasn't even been managing his own money in at least 5 years. Maybe 10 years back to when he was MA govenror.

Not to mention when he was investing, 22% of the companies he invested in filed for bankruptcy. In the 1990's, where you could be retarded and still suceed in business.

So he's a business genius who was actually a pretty mediocre businessman, and an "electability" guy who has lost 75% of the elections he's ever been in.

Brilliant!

Is all this true? If so it really doesn't speak well of Mitten's business acumen.

Joe's a hater. You shouldn't pay any attention to his "analysis."

 

[kaz]

What is up with that?

He's doing the most patriotic act an American can commit. The principle our country was founded on. Doing everything in his power to avoid paying taxes. Good for him.

 

[JoeB131]

This is Romney's whole argument, though, isn't it? I'm the big economic genius who can fix the economy, even though all my solutions are the exact same crap Bush proposed back in the Oughts and we all see how well that turned out.

And now we find out that all his money is in Blind trusts and he hasn't even been managing his own money in at least 5 years. Maybe 10 years back to when he was MA govenror.

Not to mention when he was investing, 22% of the companies he invested in filed for bankruptcy. In the 1990's, where you could be retarded and still suceed in business.

So he's a business genius who was actually a pretty mediocre businessman, and an "electability" guy who has lost 75% of the elections he's ever been in.

Brilliant!

Is all this true? If so it really doesn't speak well of Mitten's business acumen.

Joe's a hater. You shouldn't pay any attention to his "analysis."

Except whan I introduce numbers, I usually check them.

Romney has lost 3 out of 4 elections he could have been in.

He has had 22% of the businesses bain invested in go under. In the 1990's. When a retard could run a business and make a buck.

 

[Toro]

Is all this true? If so it really doesn't speak well of Mitten's business acumen.

Joe's a hater. You shouldn't pay any attention to his "analysis."

Except whan I introduce numbers, I usually check them.

Romney has lost 3 out of 4 elections he could have been in.

He has had 22% of the businesses bain invested in go under. In the 1990's. When a retard could run a business and make a buck.

You check those numbers, do you?

Well then

During the 14 years Romney headed the company, Bain Capital's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent.

Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You see that, hater?

If you'd check those numbers, and if you understood what Bain Capital is and was, you wouldn't be saying idiotic things like "He has his money in a blind trust, so why is he thought of as a great businessman?"

Normal people not warped with hatred see that, not people swamped by massive confirmation bias because of what some meanies from the Mormon church did to him 30 years ago.

 

[Contumacious]

[Uh, no. He didn't. But if you need to think that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.
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Oh yes he did.

But if you need to deny that, I'm not sure what good talking to you is going to be.


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big corporations did very well under FDR. So did the rich, and the middle class expanded.

So, uh, no, FDR was not a "Marxist".

Excuse me Vern, but the reason state supremacists opt for fascism is because they know that the typical politician don't know shit about managing a business.

So they allow businessmen to continue to "own" their enterprises but under heavy government control.

FDR witnessed how well the Krupp Industries performed under Hitler 's administration. If you are a corrupt businessman then fascism is your cup of tea.

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[bigrebnc1775]

OMG Romney has something that other U.S. Citizens have.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe's a hater. You shouldn't pay any attention to his "analysis."

Except whan I introduce numbers, I usually check them.

Romney has lost 3 out of 4 elections he could have been in.

He has had 22% of the businesses bain invested in go under. In the 1990's. When a retard could run a business and make a buck.

You check those numbers, do you?

Well then

During the 14 years Romney headed the company, Bain Capital's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent.

Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You see that, hater?

If you'd check those numbers, and if you understood what Bain Capital is and was, you wouldn't be saying idiotic things like "He has his money in a blind trust, so why is he thought of as a great businessman?"

Normal people not warped with hatred see that, not people swamped by massive confirmation bias because of what some meanies from the Mormon church did to him 30 years ago.

Another wonderful dishonest statement. It doesn't matter how much profit he made. The system is rigged so these guys make profits no matter what. Take GS Steel. They made a profit, but the Federal Government still had to bail out their pension fund for 42 million dollars.

 

[JoeB131]

big corporations did very well under FDR. So did the rich, and the middle class expanded.

So, uh, no, FDR was not a "Marxist".

Excuse me Vern, but the reason state supremacists opt for fascism is because they know that the typical politician don't know shit about managing a business.

So they allow businessmen to continue to "own" their enterprises but under heavy government control.

FDR witnessed how well the Krupp Industries performed under Hitler 's administration. If you are a corrupt businessman then fascism is your cup of tea.

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Now he's a Fascist? I thought he was a Marxist? Do make up your mind.

What is this bizarre thing among some republicans, who aren't rich, that they define freedom as "rich people being able to fuck over poor people". I honestly wonder what kind of masochists they are. Probably the kind that hopes one day the sadist will let them have the whip.

 

[Toro]

Except whan I introduce numbers, I usually check them.

Romney has lost 3 out of 4 elections he could have been in.

He has had 22% of the businesses bain invested in go under. In the 1990's. When a retard could run a business and make a buck.

You check those numbers, do you?

Well then

During the 14 years Romney headed the company, Bain Capital's average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent.

Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You see that, hater?

If you'd check those numbers, and if you understood what Bain Capital is and was, you wouldn't be saying idiotic things like "He has his money in a blind trust, so why is he thought of as a great businessman?"

Normal people not warped with hatred see that, not people swamped by massive confirmation bias because of what some meanies from the Mormon church did to him 30 years ago.

Another wonderful dishonest statement. It doesn't matter how much profit he made. The system is rigged so these guys make profits no matter what. Take GS Steel. They made a profit, but the Federal Government still had to bail out their pension fund for 42 million dollars.

Wrong.

You know little about this. You look like a fool when you talk because you make broad statements while using anecdotes. Of course, that's why you're also a hateful bigot, impugning a whole group of people based on the actions of a few. No surprise there.

 

[Jos]

Only an idiot would have a Swiss bank account, Jersey is the new anonymous bank account domain

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong.

You know little about this. You look like a fool when you talk because you make broad statements while using anecdotes. Of course, that's why you're also a hateful bigot, impugning a whole group of people based on the actions of a few. No surprise there.

When you jokers on Wall Street wreck the economy, you don't get to lecture the rest of us on economics anymore.

Kind of like when you swerve off the road after drinking a fifth of Vodka and run over a bunch of Orphans, you don't get to lecture us on driving anymore.

Sorry, man, any "authority" you had is gone.