Ron Paul: Crimea Secedes. So What?...

we signed a treaty with them to help stop these very things IF they disarmed.....So you like the USA being mad in to lying scumbags like Paul seems to?
Can you provide a link to a vote in the senate for that "treaty"?
Why since they are not needed to form one?

I'll take that as a no then. There is no "treaty" with Ukraine. Look, why don't you join the Right Sector in Ukraine and fight the pro-russian protestors in the streets, or volunteer for Ukrainian Army service if you want to fight the Russians so much. Put your money where your mouth is.
 
Can you provide a link to a vote in the senate for that "treaty"?
Why since they are not needed to form one?

I'll take that as a no then. There is no "treaty" with Ukraine. Look, why don't you join the Right Sector in Ukraine and fight the pro-russian protestors in the streets, or volunteer for Ukrainian Army service if you want to fight the Russians so much. Put your money where your mouth is.

They won't. They'll instead just force all Americans to fight and pay for their stupid misadventures. Honestly, most Americans don't even know what a 'Crimea' or 'Ukraine' is. All most know is that they've been ordered to get outraged and fork over more Tax Dollars. Mere Sheeple at this point.
 
Why since they are not needed to form one?

I'll take that as a no then. There is no "treaty" with Ukraine. Look, why don't you join the Right Sector in Ukraine and fight the pro-russian protestors in the streets, or volunteer for Ukrainian Army service if you want to fight the Russians so much. Put your money where your mouth is.

They won't. They'll instead just force all Americans to fight and pay for their stupid misadventures. Honestly, most Americans don't even know what a 'Crimea' or 'Ukraine' is. All most know is that they've been ordered to get outraged and fork over more Tax Dollars. Mere Sheeple at this point.
The stupid fuck talking about going to war right now is you you dishonest hack.
 
I'll take that as a no then. There is no "treaty" with Ukraine. Look, why don't you join the Right Sector in Ukraine and fight the pro-russian protestors in the streets, or volunteer for Ukrainian Army service if you want to fight the Russians so much. Put your money where your mouth is.

They won't. They'll instead just force all Americans to fight and pay for their stupid misadventures. Honestly, most Americans don't even know what a 'Crimea' or 'Ukraine' is. All most know is that they've been ordered to get outraged and fork over more Tax Dollars. Mere Sheeple at this point.
The stupid fuck talking about going to war right now is you you dishonest hack.

How so?
 
I'll take that as a no then. There is no "treaty" with Ukraine. Look, why don't you join the Right Sector in Ukraine and fight the pro-russian protestors in the streets, or volunteer for Ukrainian Army service if you want to fight the Russians so much. Put your money where your mouth is.

They won't. They'll instead just force all Americans to fight and pay for their stupid misadventures. Honestly, most Americans don't even know what a 'Crimea' or 'Ukraine' is. All most know is that they've been ordered to get outraged and fork over more Tax Dollars. Mere Sheeple at this point.
The stupid fuck talking about going to war right now is you you dishonest hack.
Ever figure out the treaty process imbecile?
Better to skip over it and pretend nobody noticed how totally fucking stupid you are.
 
They won't. They'll instead just force all Americans to fight and pay for their stupid misadventures. Honestly, most Americans don't even know what a 'Crimea' or 'Ukraine' is. All most know is that they've been ordered to get outraged and fork over more Tax Dollars. Mere Sheeple at this point.
The stupid fuck talking about going to war right now is you you dishonest hack.
Ever figure out the treaty process imbecile?
Better to skip over it and pretend nobody noticed how totally fucking stupid you are.

Cool, then you won't mind suiting up and handing your own bank account over to the Ukrainian 'Cause.' Have at it dummy. But don't force the rest of us to join you in your stupidity.
 
More proof that Libertarianism is now the ideology of the liar and cant ever be trusted to keep his/her word once given....

Is it your belief that any American who refuses to follow the orders of the State, in it's effort to promote and prosecute another dumb foreign war, is a liar? The very same State that lies, steals, and murders.

You go dutifully to war and die/kill for nothing, but enriching and empowering the State. You won't be the first to fail to learn from history.
 
Ya'all worry too much about this stuff. Layup get a lady a few 40'z and relax like I do. It's all good.
 
More proof that Libertarianism is now the ideology of the liar and cant ever be trusted to keep his/her word once given....

Is it your belief that any American who refuses to follow the orders of the State, in it's effort to promote and prosecute another dumb foreign war, is a liar? The very same State that lies, steals, and murders.

You go dutifully to war and die/kill for nothing, but enriching and empowering the State. You won't be the first to fail to learn from history.

None of that has to do with wishing the USA to have honor.
 
More proof that Libertarianism is now the ideology of the liar and cant ever be trusted to keep his/her word once given....

Is it your belief that any American who refuses to follow the orders of the State, in it's effort to promote and prosecute another dumb foreign war, is a liar? The very same State that lies, steals, and murders.

You go dutifully to war and die/kill for nothing, but enriching and empowering the State. You won't be the first to fail to learn from history.

None of that has to do with wishing the USA to have honor.

What does that mean?

Honor?

Does it mean you think Americans must be willing to die and kill to save the honor of a corrupt political class? And those who refuse are liars worthy of imprisonment or death by the very same State that demands they die and kill for it. If so, you are terribly confused.
 
My question exactly. If the people vote to join Russia, who are we to tell them they cannot?


If they "vote" with Russian guns on their necks, it can't be a legitimate election.

If you 'choose' to give your wallet to the nice man with a gun pressed into your face, you haven't really made a charitable donation, have you?

But its not here, so why care is the jist of Ron Paul's thing.
 
My question exactly. If the people vote to join Russia, who are we to tell them they cannot?


If they "vote" with Russian guns on their necks, it can't be a legitimate election.

If you 'choose' to give your wallet to the nice man with a gun pressed into your face, you haven't really made a charitable donation, have you?

But its not here, so why care is the jist of Ron Paul's thing.

Not true.

Most libertarians strongly condemn and oppose a stronger nation imposing it's will on a weaker one. We agree to taking reasonable diplomatic measures to penalize an aggressor nation. But we strongly oppose sending Americans to fight, kill, and die in foreign lands, to impose the will of the American ruling elite, which has proven itself entirely corrupt again and again and again..............

We also strongly oppose the typical procedures used by our foolish government, of covert and deceitful operations designed to create instability in foreign nations, which is exactly what it did in the Ukraine.
 
Why do you think Crimea joined Russia? Why do you think Russia invaded Crimea?

When Russia invaded Crimea, it landlocked Ukraine and surrounded almost all of the country. We all know that Russia, the sleeping giant, wouldn't dare wake their military unless they were 90% sure that they would succeed. With Crimea under their control, The Russian Army can cut like a knife through the flat Ukrainian terrain.

And by the way, why would Russia dare attack the U.S.
 
Is it your belief that any American who refuses to follow the orders of the State, in it's effort to promote and prosecute another dumb foreign war, is a liar? The very same State that lies, steals, and murders.

You go dutifully to war and die/kill for nothing, but enriching and empowering the State. You won't be the first to fail to learn from history.

None of that has to do with wishing the USA to have honor.

What does that mean?

Honor?

Does it mean you think Americans must be willing to die and kill to save the honor of a corrupt political class? And those who refuse are liars worthy of imprisonment or death by the very same State that demands they die and kill for it. If so, you are terribly confused.

We made a promise... Only scumbags go back on their word. You must be a scumbag.
 
None of that has to do with wishing the USA to have honor.

What does that mean?

Honor?

Does it mean you think Americans must be willing to die and kill to save the honor of a corrupt political class? And those who refuse are liars worthy of imprisonment or death by the very same State that demands they die and kill for it. If so, you are terribly confused.

We made a promise... Only scumbags go back on their word. You must be a scumbag.

I promised no such thing.

Politicians promise lots of things, most of which they never honor. It is sad you have not yet figured that out. It is equally sad that you feel compelled to honor promises made by liars, cheats, and frauds.

And besides, America has a long history of failing to honor promises...a good recent example is the Vietnam War. Ever heard of it?
 
What does that mean?

Honor?

Does it mean you think Americans must be willing to die and kill to save the honor of a corrupt political class? And those who refuse are liars worthy of imprisonment or death by the very same State that demands they die and kill for it. If so, you are terribly confused.

We made a promise... Only scumbags go back on their word. You must be a scumbag.

I promised no such thing.

Politicians promise lots of things, most of which they never honor. It is sad you have not yet figured that out. It is equally sad that you feel compelled to honor promises made by liars, cheats, and frauds.

And besides, America has a long history of failing to honor promises...a good recent example is the Vietnam War. Ever heard of it?
Answered just like a scum bag.... Remind me NEVER to do business with you because you cant be trusted.
 

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