Ron Paul Wins All of Maines delegates to the RNC in Tampa Romney wins ZERO

[Oddball]

You are stumped.

Truth is, none has ever existed, nor will exist.

The shoot 'em up days of the unincorporated Wild Wild West is as close as you get, but even that was tamed by the statehood - which at least at the time were constitutional Christian theocracies.

Libertarianism is good as a personal philosophy, but as an actual set of rules to run society by, it fails because it cannot deal with the vagrancies of human nature. It is just like communism in that regard.

This is why we make fun of your fools.

You're right, your side is def winning.

The result of your team winning is the destruction of america, but hey at least you're winning.

What you really don't understand, even after all of this education, is that you don't have a 'side'.

Libertarianism exists in the mind only.

If anyone here needs any education, it's you junior.

Speaking of which, isn't recess over and time for your English composition 101 class?

 

[SniperFire]

You're right, your side is def winning.

The result of your team winning is the destruction of america, but hey at least you're winning.

What you really don't understand, even after all of this education, is that you don't have a 'side'.

Libertarianism exists in the mind only.

If anyone here needs any education, it's you junior.

Speaking of which, isn't it time for your English composition 101 class?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Close. The nation was founded by Christian Libertarians with the expressed acknowledgement that our rights were inalienable and granted by God.

And that changes what I said, how?

We were - and if you buy into the inalienable rights of Nature's God - we are STILL operating as a defacto theocracy.

Nonsense. No clergy had sway over our government.

 

[SniperFire]

Close. The nation was founded by Christian Libertarians with the expressed acknowledgement that our rights were inalienable and granted by God.

And that changes what I said, how?

American has had the governing throttle of Christian ethos, of course.

I thought you were brighter than the rest of these guys.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

What makes this even more hilarious is that snifferfare and rubbi will walk away claiming victory on the issue.

The cognitive dissonance, it runs deep with these neoliberal types.


And seriously, a fucking HBO miniseries as proof of the failings of libertarianism.

 

[SniperFire]

We were - and if you buy into the inalienable rights of Nature's God - we are STILL operating as a defacto theocracy.

Nonsense. No clergy had sway over our government.

LOL.


Good one!

 

[Avorysuds]

Would you like to tell us when a Libertarian society has successfully existed on the face of the earth?

You pals are failing.

The Bill of Rights is the quintessential Libertarian document. This nation was founded on Libertarian principle and run as a Libertarian government until Lincoln.

Close. The nation was founded by Christian Libertarians with the expressed acknowledgement that our rights were inalienable and granted by God.

We were - and if you buy into the inalienable rights of Nature's God - we are STILL operating as a defacto theocracy.

At least you admit the answer is correct, on some level.

So there is the answer SF, America... The best you can do is say "Christians were involved!!!" But know this SF, the FF kept Libertarian principles while restricting religion fully. That means that even the FF knew that as for a society the libertarian ideology would work better than the bible or any other religion.

Once again, America is the answer. Seeing that you won’t accept that answer I assume like TM you will re-bot and forget that you were answered and even that you have been asked what Nation was created and worked on Republican ideology of over regulation, deficits and massive social programs… Consider the fact that Republican in conjunction helped destroy this count with massive deficits, regulations and socialist programs so I am not just making it up, all we have to do is pull the votes for each of these programs like, SS/MC/MC/MC-D,Welfare, foreign aid and so on.

 

[Uncensored2008]

American history isn't a teevee miniseries, you nitwit.

Calamity Jane never called anyone a "cocksucker." "Deadwood" was one of the nihilistic farce dramas that cable loves. They think profanity and sex make up for creativity and historical accuracy.

Deadwood is no more representative of the Old West than "Breaking Bad" is of high school chemistry.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

While many libertarian ideas hold merit, the fascination with that crank Paul is rather fascinating......

Reminds one of the Gore, Dean, Edwards, Kerry clingrers-on............

Beat that dead horse to death

 

[SniperFire]

What makes this even more hilarious is that snifferfare and rubbi will walk away claiming victory on the issue.

The cognitive dissonance, it runs deep with these neoliberal types.


And seriously, a fucking HBO miniseries as proof of the failings of libertarianism.

Still waiting for an actual example of where you system of government works or ever has worked in the world.

As usual, I win.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Nice doublespeak.

 

[SniperFire]

The Bill of Rights is the quintessential Libertarian document. This nation was founded on Libertarian principle and run as a Libertarian government until Lincoln.

Close. The nation was founded by Christian Libertarians with the expressed acknowledgement that our rights were inalienable and granted by God.

We were - and if you buy into the inalienable rights of Nature's God - we are STILL operating as a defacto theocracy.

At least you admit the answer is correct, on some level.

So there is the answer SF, America... The best you can do is say "Christians were involved!!!" But know this SF, the FF kept Libertarian principles while restricting religion fully.

That is completely ridiculous. The basis of the foundation of America is in inalienable rights, and those were identified as God given.



Give up. I am right and you are wrong.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

What makes this even more hilarious is that snifferfare and rubbi will walk away claiming victory on the issue.

The cognitive dissonance, it runs deep with these neoliberal types.


And seriously, a fucking HBO miniseries as proof of the failings of libertarianism.

Still waiting for an actual example of where you system of government works or ever has worked in the world.

As usual, I win.

You've been answered. You refuse it and then claim vicotry as if the answer was never given. I've seen this routine before. From TruthMatters.

 

[Avorysuds]

What makes this even more hilarious is that snifferfare and rubbi will walk away claiming victory on the issue.

The cognitive dissonance, it runs deep with these neoliberal types.


And seriously, a fucking HBO miniseries as proof of the failings of libertarianism.

Still waiting for an actual example of where you system of government works or ever has worked in the world.

As usual, I win.

I see you re-boted.


Again the answer is Amierca unless of course you can prove it worng. And you can't...

 

[LibertyForAll]

Everything in stuporfire's world is black and white. There is only anarchy or totalitarianism. This whole thread is about Neocons trying to convince themselves they are still conservative.


Libertarianism is not anarchism for the hundredth time. There are many different forms of libertarianism so you can't just lump them all into one category. Anarchists believe in zero government, Libertarians do not. I am a minarchist.

Minarchism (also known as minimal statism) is variously defined by sources. It is a libertarian capitalist political philosophy. In the strictest sense, it maintains that the state is necessary and that its only legitimate function is the protection of individuals from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud, and the only legitimate governmental institutions are the military, police, and courts. In the broadest sense, it also includes fire departments, prisons, the executive, and legislatures as legitimate government functions.[1][2][3] Such states are generally called night-watchman states.

Minarchists argue that the state has no authority to use its monopoly on force to interfere with free transactions between people, and see the state's sole responsibility as ensuring that contracts between private individuals and property are protected, through a system of law courts and enforcement. Minarchists generally believe a laissez faire approach to the economy is most likely to lead to economic prosperity
Minarchism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Protecting kids with zoning laws is not a nanny state. Zoning laws are legislated at the local level not the federal level.

Regulating what kind of lunch parents send their kids to school with is a nanny state. See there are degrees of infringement.

Employers have the right to fire me anytime they want for any reason. I have they right to quit at any time with no reason. The contract is that they will pay me the agreed upon amount for my services. Neither has the right to impose thier will upon the other without consent. In other words I cannot demand a job from a business and they cannot demand that I work. If I sign a contract to complete a specific project and they pay me and I do not complete said project then that is a different story.

Deadbeat parents in my opinion should still have to support their kids. Not supporting their kids infringes upon the rights of the children since by bringing kids into the world you take on the responsibility to care for them. If drugs were legal I think we would see less abandonment because I think hard drug use would go down. I don't know for a fact but I suspect that much of the reason people become homeless drug addicts is because of the cost of the druigs and that finding them and money for them become the driving force in their lives. If you remove the high cost and make them available they might still be able to work and function in society. If they can't then they should be able to get treatment but they should have to foot the bill. We have to remove the stigma and penalties that create harder criminals out of these people.

WTF is a coke bender anyway? Rabbi do you even know what coke is? You don't go on a coke bender and leave for your family for two weeks at a time lol. People do that on alcohol though and that's completely legal.

 

[SniperFire]

cognitive dissonance

You repeat that a lot.

First year Psych student?

 

[SniperFire]

Everything in stuporfire's world is black and white. There is only anarchy or totalitarianism.

Nope.

There is this messy area in the middle which we call American politics, pitting Democrats against Republicans.

 

[SniperFire]

Kicking silly Libertarian ass is fun and effortless, but alas, I must run along now.

Until next time!

 

[Avorysuds]

Everything in stuporfire's world is black and white. There is only anarchy or totalitarianism.

Nope.

There is this messy area in the middle which we call American politics, pitting Democrats against Republicans.

And you just described how we ended up in debt and with huge socialist programs. One far left group bought enough votes that the other party made the leap into vote buying through social programs and welfare all made possible by that wonderful deficit spending.

 

[Avorysuds]

Kicking silly Libertarian ass is fun and effortless, but alas, I must run along now.

Until next time!

All you did was Troll and make Republicans looks stupid... notice how the only people that come to your aid are liberals like RW and jill and liberal lites like Rabbi?

Yeah, you’re the shit!

Still can't show where Republicans created a society that worked can you SF! Funny that you still demand that question to be answered when you ask it, even after it gets answered but you just avoid it over and over and over and over and over....

Making you look stupid helps us, so I'd like to thank you for making it so easy to do.