Roosevelt: His Bankrupt Policies

Did Jake ever explain why he believes a 21% average unemployment over 7 years is great
The Great Depression Statistics

Show where I said they were great. I can show you that Hoover's policies set up the worst damage and that the UE was coming down before conservative economic legislation crippled the recovery. GNP under Hoover almost fell by 50%, while GNP grew steadily for FDR other than one year where the conservative legislation really hurt it.

If you only understood the figures. Read them and weep.

1929 to 1933 Hoover 1933 to 1940 FDR

US Gross Domestic Product (current dollars)
The Great Crash, 1929-1933
in 1929: $103.6 billion
in 1930: $91.2
in 1931: $76.5
in 1932: $58.7
in 1933: $56.4

New Deal Recovery and Recession, 1934-39
in 1934: $66.0 billion
in 1935: $73.3
in 1936: $83.8
in 1937: $91.9
in 1938: $86.1
in 1939: $92.2

Government Expenditures and Investments (in current dollars)
Hoover Administration, 1929-1939
in 1929: $9.4 billion
in 1930: $10.0
in 1931: $9.9
in 1932: $8.7
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1929-32: 12.0%

Roosevelt's New Deal
in 1933: $8.7 billion
in 1934: $10.5
in 1935: $10.9
in 1936: $13.1
in 1937: $12.8
in 1938: $13.8
in 1939: $14.8
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1933-39: 15.4%

Average rate of unemployment underline is Jake's point
in 1929: 3.2%
in 1930: 8.9%
in 1931: 16.3% Hoover's failed policies do not help
in 1932: 24.1% Hoover's failed policies begin kicking in
in 1933: 24.9% Hoover's failed policies really kick in
in 1934: 21.7% Deficit spending begins working
in 1935: 20.1% Deficit spending working
in 1936: 16.9% Deficit spending working
in 1937: 14.3% Deficit spending working
in 1938: 19.0% failure conservative economic legislation
in 1939: 17.2%3 failure conservative economic legislation

Jake, you should write comedy.

First does your doppelganger Rshermr agree with the UE numbers or are they partial?

Second, you're claiming that 21% average unemployment over 7 years proves that "deficit Spending works"?

No wonder we have such horrible labor participation numbers today, its more deficit spending at work!
 
FDR, worst President ever, unless of course you support Stalin
Uh, Crusader is a proven con troll, and a proven conspiracy theorist. And says, against all evidence, that fdr is the worst president ever. Then, compares fdr to president "STALIN". Do we have any doubt at all that CR is an idiot.
Jake, continues his uninterrupted string of posts with no substance, at best, or just totally embarrassing himself.
Crusader continues his uninterrupted string of unsubstantiated attacks on FDR. All with lies and lack of substance, simply totally embarrassing himself. And proving the concept of projection is real. And proving himself an irrelevant conservative troll.
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?
 
Did Jake ever explain why he believes a 21% average unemployment over 7 years is great
The Great Depression Statistics

Show where I said they were great. I can show you that Hoover's policies set up the worst damage and that the UE was coming down before conservative economic legislation crippled the recovery. GNP under Hoover almost fell by 50%, while GNP grew steadily for FDR other than one year where the conservative legislation really hurt it.

If you only understood the figures. Read them and weep.

1929 to 1933 Hoover 1933 to 1940 FDR

US Gross Domestic Product (current dollars)
The Great Crash, 1929-1933
in 1929: $103.6 billion
in 1930: $91.2
in 1931: $76.5
in 1932: $58.7
in 1933: $56.4

New Deal Recovery and Recession, 1934-39
in 1934: $66.0 billion
in 1935: $73.3
in 1936: $83.8
in 1937: $91.9
in 1938: $86.1
in 1939: $92.2

Government Expenditures and Investments (in current dollars)
Hoover Administration, 1929-1939
in 1929: $9.4 billion
in 1930: $10.0
in 1931: $9.9
in 1932: $8.7
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1929-32: 12.0%

Roosevelt's New Deal
in 1933: $8.7 billion
in 1934: $10.5
in 1935: $10.9
in 1936: $13.1
in 1937: $12.8
in 1938: $13.8
in 1939: $14.8
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1933-39: 15.4%

Average rate of unemployment underline is Jake's point
in 1929: 3.2%
in 1930: 8.9%
in 1931: 16.3% Hoover's failed policies do not help
in 1932: 24.1% Hoover's failed policies begin kicking in
in 1933: 24.9% Hoover's failed policies really kick in
in 1934: 21.7% Deficit spending begins working
in 1935: 20.1% Deficit spending working
in 1936: 16.9% Deficit spending working
in 1937: 14.3% Deficit spending working
in 1938: 19.0% failure conservative economic legislation
in 1939: 17.2%3 failure conservative economic legislation

Jake, you should write comedy.

Why would anyone want to write about you. You are the only comedy around.

First does your doppelganger Rshermr agree with the UE numbers or are they partial?

Second, you're claiming that 21% average unemployment over 7 years proves that "deficit Spending works"?

Here is a news flash for you, dipshit. FDR was not president until March of 1933, And 1933 was a budget year and clear responsibility of Hoover. Really, you need to educate yourself some.
The FDR presidency went until his death. So, if you cherry pick just 7 years of his presidency, you
would be working with 1934 through 1940. But truth is, it should be 8 years until and including 1941. And the years 1940 with 14.4% and 1941 with 9.7% unemployment. That would be an unemployment average rate that FDR had any possible responsibility for of 16.65%. On it's way to 1.2% in the last full year of his presidency.
Now, get a grip, me poor ignorant con conspiracy theorist. And stupid conspiracy theorist. And obvious clown.

No wonder we have such horriCble labor participation numbers today, its more deficit spending at work!
Con trolls always attack the participation rate. Economists show you, should you care to check, that it has been declining very slightly for years. And will continue to for many more. You are simply twisting and turning trying to find something bad to say, and proving yourself to be an idiot. Dipshit.
 
FDR, worst President ever, unless of course you support Stalin
Uh, Crusader is a proven con troll, and a proven conspiracy theorist. And says, against all evidence, that fdr is the worst president ever. Then, compares fdr to president "STALIN". Do we have any doubt at all that CR is an idiot.
Jake, continues his uninterrupted string of posts with no substance, at best, or just totally embarrassing himself.
Crusader continues his uninterrupted string of unsubstantiated attacks on FDR. All with lies and lack of substance, simply totally embarrassing himself. And proving the concept of projection is real. And proving himself an irrelevant conservative troll.

How is posting FDR miserable track record an "attack"?
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
 
Did Jake ever explain why he believes a 21% average unemployment over 7 years is great
The Great Depression Statistics

Show where I said they were great. I can show you that Hoover's policies set up the worst damage and that the UE was coming down before conservative economic legislation crippled the recovery. GNP under Hoover almost fell by 50%, while GNP grew steadily for FDR other than one year where the conservative legislation really hurt it.

If you only understood the figures. Read them and weep.

1929 to 1933 Hoover 1933 to 1940 FDR

US Gross Domestic Product (current dollars)
The Great Crash, 1929-1933
in 1929: $103.6 billion
in 1930: $91.2
in 1931: $76.5
in 1932: $58.7
in 1933: $56.4

New Deal Recovery and Recession, 1934-39
in 1934: $66.0 billion
in 1935: $73.3
in 1936: $83.8
in 1937: $91.9
in 1938: $86.1
in 1939: $92.2

Government Expenditures and Investments (in current dollars)
Hoover Administration, 1929-1939
in 1929: $9.4 billion
in 1930: $10.0
in 1931: $9.9
in 1932: $8.7
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1929-32: 12.0%

Roosevelt's New Deal
in 1933: $8.7 billion
in 1934: $10.5
in 1935: $10.9
in 1936: $13.1
in 1937: $12.8
in 1938: $13.8
in 1939: $14.8
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1933-39: 15.4%

Average rate of unemployment underline is Jake's point
in 1929: 3.2%
in 1930: 8.9%
in 1931: 16.3% Hoover's failed policies do not help
in 1932: 24.1% Hoover's failed policies begin kicking in
in 1933: 24.9% Hoover's failed policies really kick in
in 1934: 21.7% Deficit spending begins working
in 1935: 20.1% Deficit spending working
in 1936: 16.9% Deficit spending working
in 1937: 14.3% Deficit spending working
in 1938: 19.0% failure conservative economic legislation
in 1939: 17.2%3 failure conservative economic legislation

Jake, you should write comedy.

Why would anyone want to write about you. You are the only comedy around.

First does your doppelganger Rshermr agree with the UE numbers or are they partial?

Second, you're claiming that 21% average unemployment over 7 years proves that "deficit Spending works"?

Here is a news flash for you, dipshit. FDR was not president until March of 1933, And 1933 was a budget year and clear responsibility of Hoover. Really, you need to educate yourself some.
The FDR presidency went until his death. So, if you cherry pick just 7 years of his presidency, you
would be working with 1934 through 1940. But truth is, it should be 8 years until and including 1941. And the years 1940 with 14.4% and 1941 with 9.7% unemployment. That would be an unemployment average rate that FDR had any possible responsibility for of 16.65%. On it's way to 1.2% in the last full year of his presidency.
Now, get a grip, me poor ignorant con conspiracy theorist. And stupid conspiracy theorist. And obvious clown.

No wonder we have such horriCble labor participation numbers today, its more deficit spending at work!
Con trolls always attack the participation rate. Economists show you, should you care to check, that it has been declining very slightly for years. And will continue to for many more. You are simply twisting and turning trying to find something bad to say, and proving yourself to be an idiot. Dipshit.

Did you say something, Jake?
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
Hoover and his bhoys managed to fuck everything up. Hoover tried to get FDR and commit to Hoover's programs. FDR said basically, "fuck you", and tried his own way. Hoover is responsible for the UE of 1932 and 1933, no one else.
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
Hoover and his bhoys managed to fuck everything up. Hoover tried to get FDR and commit to Hoover's programs. FDR said basically, "fuck you", and tried his own way. Hoover is responsible for the UE of 1932 and 1933, no one else.

Rexford Tugwell, one of the authors of the New Deal, “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the Whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.”

D'oh!!!
 
FDR, worst President ever, unless of course you support Stalin
Uh, Crusader is a proven con troll, and a proven conspiracy theorist. And says, against all evidence, that fdr is the worst president ever. Then, compares fdr to president "STALIN". Do we have any doubt at all that CR is an idiot.
Jake, continues his uninterrupted string of posts with no substance, at best, or just totally embarrassing himself.
Crusader continues his uninterrupted string of unsubstantiated attacks on FDR. All with lies and lack of substance, simply totally embarrassing himself. And proving the concept of projection is real. And proving himself an irrelevant conservative troll.
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
Hoover and his bhoys managed to fuck everything up. Hoover tried to get FDR and commit to Hoover's programs. FDR said basically, "fuck you", and tried his own way. Hoover is responsible for the UE of 1932 and 1933, no one else.

Rexford Tugwell, one of the authors of the New Deal, “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the Whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.”

D'oh!!!

Lets try to help you, Crusader. Even though you are a lying con troll. Here are the facts:
First, Rexford was not an author of the new deal. He was on the economic team, a fairly small player.
But it is nice to see that Hoover finally had to address the mess his party created and toward his end of term, passed bills to address it. Had he not, it would have gone to 35% or more. So, no surprise, he passed a couple bills that addressed the mess that was created by prior republican presidents. But by the time he did so, people were suffering. Some died, many, many lost their homes. Which was fine for con trolls like Crusader. But no actual sitting president could watch the ue rate heading toward a 25 point raise in the rate, could do anything but address it. CF would rather let it go, and let the nation crash. Hoover tried to do something. And the bills he passed got passed after he was gone from office. Under FDR.
Sorry this is new to you, Crusader. Now, back to your bat cave.
 
Frank, your numbers are debunked when put into context. The two highest years of UE were directly attributable to Hoover and his people, no one else.

GNP and GDP fell under Hoover, grew under FDR.

Do you understand now that you are a laughing stock?

Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
Hoover and his bhoys managed to fuck everything up. Hoover tried to get FDR and commit to Hoover's programs. FDR said basically, "fuck you", and tried his own way. Hoover is responsible for the UE of 1932 and 1933, no one else.

Rexford Tugwell, one of the authors of the New Deal, “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the Whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.”

D'oh!!!
And you wonder why FDR would not sit down with HH? He got it wrong with 24% plus UE in 1932 and 1933.
 
FDR, worst President ever, unless of course you support Stalin
Uh, Crusader is a proven con troll, and a proven conspiracy theorist. And says, against all evidence, that fdr is the worst president ever. Then, compares fdr to president "STALIN". Do we have any doubt at all that CR is an idiot.
Jake, continues his uninterrupted string of posts with no substance, at best, or just totally embarrassing himself.
Crusader continues his uninterrupted string of unsubstantiated attacks on FDR. All with lies and lack of substance, simply totally embarrassing himself. And proving the concept of projection is real. And proving himself an irrelevant conservative troll.

When will you post your "impartial" data set from 1933-1940?
 
Jake, we're discussing FDR's miserable track record from 1933-1940. Are you claiming we have deficit spending to thank for a 21% UE rate over that term? Is that your metric for success?
One, you have to contrast Hoover to FDR.

Two, the GNP and GDP went up for FDR.

Three, the two years of UE are Hoover's responsibility.

After the Election in 1932, Hoover begged FDR to help with the banks. FDR went sailing and ignored Hoovers called for united action. So maybe you should go back to 1932 and count it as 3/4 Hoover 1/4 FDR?
Hoover and his bhoys managed to fuck everything up. Hoover tried to get FDR and commit to Hoover's programs. FDR said basically, "fuck you", and tried his own way. Hoover is responsible for the UE of 1932 and 1933, no one else.

Rexford Tugwell, one of the authors of the New Deal, “We didn’t admit it at the time, but practically the Whole New Deal was extrapolated from programs that Hoover started.”

D'oh!!!
And you wonder why FDR would not sit down with HH? He got it wrong with 24% plus UE in 1932 and 1933.

And the FDR made it average 21% from 1933 until Hitler conquered France in 1940 and US involvement in WWII was inevitable
 
Did Jake ever explain why he believes a 21% average unemployment over 7 years is great
The Great Depression Statistics

Show where I said they were great. I can show you that Hoover's policies set up the worst damage and that the UE was coming down before conservative economic legislation crippled the recovery. GNP under Hoover almost fell by 50%, while GNP grew steadily for FDR other than one year where the conservative legislation really hurt it.

If you only understood the figures. Read them and weep.

1929 to 1933 Hoover 1933 to 1940 FDR

US Gross Domestic Product (current dollars)
The Great Crash, 1929-1933
in 1929: $103.6 billion
in 1930: $91.2
in 1931: $76.5
in 1932: $58.7
in 1933: $56.4

New Deal Recovery and Recession, 1934-39
in 1934: $66.0 billion
in 1935: $73.3
in 1936: $83.8
in 1937: $91.9
in 1938: $86.1
in 1939: $92.2

Government Expenditures and Investments (in current dollars)
Hoover Administration, 1929-1939
in 1929: $9.4 billion
in 1930: $10.0
in 1931: $9.9
in 1932: $8.7
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1929-32: 12.0%

Roosevelt's New Deal
in 1933: $8.7 billion
in 1934: $10.5
in 1935: $10.9
in 1936: $13.1
in 1937: $12.8
in 1938: $13.8
in 1939: $14.8
Average government spending as percentage of GDP, 1933-39: 15.4%

Average rate of unemployment underline is Jake's point
in 1929: 3.2%
in 1930: 8.9%
in 1931: 16.3% Hoover's failed policies do not help
in 1932: 24.1% Hoover's failed policies begin kicking in
in 1933: 24.9% Hoover's failed policies really kick in
in 1934: 21.7% Deficit spending begins working
in 1935: 20.1% Deficit spending working
in 1936: 16.9% Deficit spending working
in 1937: 14.3% Deficit spending working
in 1938: 19.0% failure conservative economic legislation
in 1939: 17.2%3 failure conservative economic legislation

Jake, Hoover averaged 13% unemployment over his 4 years, FDR average 21% over 7 years. FDR was almost twice as bad as Hoover
 
Jake and his sock having a great conversation
Transference. What you do is in no way representative of what actual rational people do. Remember, you are a conspiracy theorist, others are rational folks. Soon, based on your propensity for conspiracy, you will be certain that Jake had a voodoo doll. Poor you. Just try to remember it is congenital Not your fault.
typical violent viscous liberal, and substance free as always. If liberals had good arguments they'd love to use them, obviously.
Too stupid. Rshemer completely crushed Frank with clear, objective stats, analysis, and conclusions. Do you understand now?

He did?? I'm still waiting for your doppelganger to post "impartial" UE Statistics from 1933-1940
 
HH was responsible for over 24% to straight years.

FDR dropped the UE and raised the GNP.

tsk tsk, Frank you cannot isolate 1933 to 1939 from 1929 to 1932 (the worst of the Depression)
 

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