Rubio goes on homophobic rant ending political career.

[peach174]

The point is that America was colonized by a numerous majority of white Europeans of differing denominations. Throughout the 19th century, the white Protestant conservative majority evangelized society and culture. That began to fall apart in the 1960s as minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups empowered themselves.

The acceptability of 'civil union' is to no longer up for dialogue. The far right Christians closed that door a decade ago and will not be allowed to re-open it.

This is not going to change.

In the 60's it started out to be everyone who was for the minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups rights.
Then the far left socialists (progressive aka liberal) hijacked the movements and took over and ever since then the small minority of far left democrat socialists of around 24% today still rule over the majority.
Even worse they are 24% of the nation but have 40% representation in Washington D.C.
The liberal left has gone way to far to the left of the political spectrum.
The liberal left has become the very thing (oppressors) that they fought for in1960's.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The point is that America was colonized by a numerous majority of white Europeans of differing denominations. Throughout the 19th century, the white Protestant conservative majority evangelized society and culture. That began to fall apart in the 1960s as minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups empowered themselves.

The acceptability of 'civil union' is to no longer up for dialogue. The far right Christians closed that door a decade ago and will not be allowed to re-open it.

This is not going to change.

In the 60's it started out to be everyone who was for the minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups rights.
Then the far left socialists (progressive aka liberal) hijacked the movements and took over and ever since then the small minority of far left democrat socialists of around 24% today still rule over the majority.
Even worse they are 24% of the nation but have 40% representation in Washington D.C.
The liberal left has gone way to far to the left of the political spectrum.
The liberal left has become the very thing (oppressors) that they fought for in1960's.

Peach, one word. Nonsense. You are no longer the majority and will live with that reality.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A Kasich-Paul ticket looks more and more realistic.

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

I have hopes for Kasich/Paul. Understand Redfish is a blind Obama hater and can't see the forest for the trees. He was saying the same stupid things

 

[JoshuaZ]

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

I have hopes for Kasich/Paul. Understand Redfish is a blind Obama hater and can't see the forest for the trees. He was saying the same stupid things

Hopes means you want it or hopes means you want it and assign a high probability to it happening?

 

[Redfish]

let's get something straight about this all encompassing "CHRISTIAN" label being thrown around.

the TRUTH is, it's only the religious fundamentalists who are feeling threatened by the evil 'PC'


Where Christian churches other religions stand on gay marriage Pew Research Center

60% favor same sex marriage in the country.
40% of the population does not and they should have their rights also.

thats what the polls say, but if it were put to a vote in every state I think the results would be quite different.

Ask one of your gay marriage advocates if they would be OK with gay civil unions that gave them the exact same rights and benefits as a man/woman marriage. They will say no, because its not about rights and equality, its about the word "marriage". They want to use the govt of mandate societal acceptance of homosexuality as a normal human condition. Thats what this whole thing is about.

Your willingness to accept gay marriage under a different name is proof you have no case against gay marriage.

I make no case against gays being allowed to legally commit to each other and have the benefits that married couples have, but a gay coupling is not a marriage.

 

[Redfish]

A Kasich-Paul ticket looks more and more realistic.

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

$5000, how about it?

 

[Redfish]

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

I have hopes for Kasich/Paul. Understand Redfish is a blind Obama hater and can't see the forest for the trees. He was saying the same stupid things

I do hate obama and what he has done to my country, I hate what he stands for, his lies, his corruption, his violations of the constitution, his leftist marxist collectivist bullshit.

worst president in history is too mild.

 

[Redfish]

The point is that America was colonized by a numerous majority of white Europeans of differing denominations. Throughout the 19th century, the white Protestant conservative majority evangelized society and culture. That began to fall apart in the 1960s as minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups empowered themselves.

The acceptability of 'civil union' is to no longer up for dialogue. The far right Christians closed that door a decade ago and will not be allowed to re-open it.

This is not going to change.

In the 60's it started out to be everyone who was for the minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups rights.
Then the far left socialists (progressive aka liberal) hijacked the movements and took over and ever since then the small minority of far left democrat socialists of around 24% today still rule over the majority.
Even worse they are 24% of the nation but have 40% representation in Washington D.C.
The liberal left has gone way to far to the left of the political spectrum.
The liberal left has become the very thing (oppressors) that they fought for in1960's.

Peach, one word. Nonsense. You are no longer the majority and will live with that reality.

wrong snake jockey, real america is still the majority, the left coast and northeast libtards are not america, they just happen to control hollywood and most of the media, they are fooling you and you are too blinded by hate to see it.

 

[JoshuaZ]

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

$5000, how about it?

That's well outside the amount I generally bet, especially because people on the Internet are generally good for paying up in smaller numbers (and my fiance is unhappy enough that I bet at all!) But I think we could work something out for a possibly smaller quantity if we clarify what demolish means. So, what in your view constitutes demolish?

 

[peach174]

The point is that America was colonized by a numerous majority of white Europeans of differing denominations. Throughout the 19th century, the white Protestant conservative majority evangelized society and culture. That began to fall apart in the 1960s as minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups empowered themselves.

The acceptability of 'civil union' is to no longer up for dialogue. The far right Christians closed that door a decade ago and will not be allowed to re-open it.

This is not going to change.

In the 60's it started out to be everyone who was for the minorities, women, immigrants, and other religious and non-religious groups rights.
Then the far left socialists (progressive aka liberal) hijacked the movements and took over and ever since then the small minority of far left democrat socialists of around 24% today still rule over the majority.
Even worse they are 24% of the nation but have 40% representation in Washington D.C.
The liberal left has gone way to far to the left of the political spectrum.
The liberal left has become the very thing (oppressors) that they fought for in1960's.

Peach, one word. Nonsense. You are no longer the majority and will live with that reality.

All the polls say you are wrong Jake.
The majority of this nation is moderate and conservative not far left liberal.
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

 

[Staidhup]

The problem as I see it is that when one focuses on a litmus test to determine political acceptability they continue to miss the big picture which is the very basis as to why Obama is president in the first place. How's that hope and change working out for you today? The left galvanizes support and pumps media hype centered on litmus tests resulting in demeaning the real issues, of national debt, underemployment, diminished manufacturing, real jobs, and failed foreign policy, as non essential minor issues. I for one don't give a horses ass as to ones personal viewpoint as it regards abortion, gay marriage, and if you knew what we know now would you have invaded Iraq, but remain focused on the economy, national security, and my freedoms. Regardless the American people will decide the direction this country will travel on election day and either suffer or prosper as a result.So let these candidates put forth a plan, layout an agenda, and let it be. The side show is getting old.

 

[Lilah]

The problem as I see it is that when one focuses on a litmus test to determine political acceptability they continue to miss the big picture which is the very basis as to why Obama is president in the first place. How's that hope and change working out for you today? The left galvanizes support and pumps media hype centered on litmus tests resulting in demeaning the real issues, of national debt, underemployment, diminished manufacturing, real jobs, and failed foreign policy, as non essential minor issues. I for one don't give a horses ass as to ones personal viewpoint as it regards abortion, gay marriage, and if you knew what we know now would you have invaded Iraq, but remain focused on the economy, national security, and my freedoms. Regardless the American people will decide the direction this country will travel on election day and either suffer or prosper as a result.So let these candidates put forth a plan, layout an agenda, and let it be. The side show is getting old.

" I for one don't give a horses ass as to ones personal viewpoint as it regards abortion, gay marriage,"
If your above statement is your truth, why would you listen to a candidate's plan/agenda?

 

[bodecea]

The problem as I see it is that when one focuses on a litmus test to determine political acceptability they continue to miss the big picture which is the very basis as to why Obama is president in the first place. How's that hope and change working out for you today? The left galvanizes support and pumps media hype centered on litmus tests resulting in demeaning the real issues, of national debt, underemployment, diminished manufacturing, real jobs, and failed foreign policy, as non essential minor issues. I for one don't give a horses ass as to ones personal viewpoint as it regards abortion, gay marriage, and if you knew what we know now would you have invaded Iraq, but remain focused on the economy, national security, and my freedoms. Regardless the American people will decide the direction this country will travel on election day and either suffer or prosper as a result.So let these candidates put forth a plan, layout an agenda, and let it be. The side show is getting old.

That hope and change is working fine...just fine....better than under Bush.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A majority of Americans see gay marriage as a danger?

Where's that poll?

Being opposed to it does not mean you see it as a "danger". nice spin attempt, but once again you FAIL.

Rubio expressed his beliefs, if you disagree with him, don't vote for him.

A politician who has the guts to take a stand and stand by his principles is to be admired, not denigrated.

Remember how both HRC and obozo were against gay marriage when they thought it was the politically safe position? Its called hypocrisy or pandering, and the dims do it constantly.

Rubio said it was a danger, and you said most Americans agreed with him. You're an idiot.

most do agree with him. the voters of california voted against it twice.

But, lets settle it. Lets let the people vote as they did in Ireland. Then its over one way or the other.

There's currently 60% support for legal same sex marriage in the US. That's the same as Ireland's was going into that landslide.

We don't have national referendums. We have a Supreme Court.

Let the Right pass its Marriage Amendment to the Constitution if they can. There's your 'referendum'.

The SC can rule on whether state laws banning gay marriage are constitutional. It cannot decree that gay marriage is constitutional. Do you understand the difference?

There's no such thing as "gay marriage," there's only one marriage law in each of the 50 states same-sex couples are eligible to participate in.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You don't want polygamists to have religious freedom in this country do you? You want the GOVERNMENT to keep polygamists from having any religious rights, don't you?

No, I think that polygamists should be left alone and government should not be involved.

Oh really? So now you support legal polygamy but oppose legal same sex marriage.

lol, I'd have made great lawyer, if I wasn't so lazy lolol.

The Feds should stay out of both.

Only because you don't care for the Constitution.

Because I do care about the Constitution.
The Feds are totally ignoring the Constitution and it's both parties who are doing it.

Ignorant, ridiculous nonsense.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

I have hopes for Kasich/Paul. Understand Redfish is a blind Obama hater and can't see the forest for the trees. He was saying the same stupid things

Hopes means you want it or hopes means you want it and assign a high probability to it happening?

Hope it happens, and right now I would assign a 40 to 50% change of happening. Long way to go.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

Majority of Americans disagree with you, Redfish. Kasich and Paul will be the finishers.

A Kasich/Paul ticket is fine with me. Whoever the GOP runs will demolish HRC.

Really? What would you be willing to bet on that?

I have hopes for Kasich/Paul. Understand Redfish is a blind Obama hater and can't see the forest for the trees. He was saying the same stupid things

I do hate obama and what he has done to my country, I hate what he stands for, his lies, his corruption, his violations of the constitution, his leftist marxist collectivist bullshit.

worst president in history is too mild.

And you are delusional. He is not great but better than Bush, which is not saying much.

 

[JakeStarkey]

wrong snake jockey, real america is still the majority, the left coast and northeast libtards are not america, they just happen to control hollywood and most of the media, they are fooling you and you are too blinded by hate to see it.

You are not even the majority in our GOP. You far right social con Christian wacks' strength and position lessen every day. Why do you think Kasich is easily going to crush Santorum, Huckabee, Perry, and all the other far right frauds?

 

[Flopper]

A Kasich-Paul ticket looks more and more realistic.

How likely do you think it is that the final ticket will be Paul/Kasich or Kasich/Paul?

Kasich/Rubio. Rubio did not hurt himself by expressing a view held by a majority of americans. The northeast and west coast media are not the USA.

A majority of Americans see gay marriage as a danger?

Where's that poll?

It seems unlikely that Americans would see same sex marriage as a great danger when 55% of them believe that same sex marriage should be legal.
Marriage Gallup Historical Trends

The approval of legalized gay marriage is at an all time high as of May 2015 at 55%. American approval of legalizing gay marriage has been rising rather steadily since 1996 at which time it was 27%.

For a candidate to win the Republican nomination, they must be against gay marriage but to win in the general election they have to soft peddle their position so the majority of voters will ignore it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Peach misdefines conservative for beginners. Conservatives like Rush and Redfish don't make up more than 15% of the electorate. Real conservatives and centrists and left of center probably make up 70% of the country, and another 15% are hard left. I am not hard left, and you align with the Rushbos.