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[Faun]

Former Vice President Joe Biden, now a 2020 Democratic presidential contender, has locked into a specific story about the controversy in Ukraine.

He insists that, in spring 2016, he strong-armed Ukraine to fire its chief prosecutor solely because Biden believed that official was corrupt and inept, not because the Ukrainian was investigating a natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, that hired Biden's son, Hunter, into a lucrative job.

There’s just one problem.

Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents — many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles — conflict with Biden’s narrative.

And they raise the troubling prospect that U.S. officials may have painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped ease Burisma’s legal troubles and stop prosecutors’ plans to interview Hunter Biden during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

For instance, Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country’s chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor's firing was announced.

In addition, Burisma’s American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to that memo and the American legal team’s internal emails.

The memos raise troubling questions:

1.) If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma's American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?"

2.) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Ukrainian prosecutors say they have tried to get this information to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) since the summer of 2018, fearing it might be evidence of possible violations of U.S. ethics laws. First, they hired a former federal prosecutor to bring the information to the U.S. attorney in New York, who, they say, showed no interest. Then, the Ukrainians reached out to President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, told Trump in July that he plans to launch his own wide-ranging investigation into what happened with the Bidens and Burisma.

Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017.

After I first reported it in a column, the New York Times and ABC News published similar stories confirming my reporting.


More at link below.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

John Soloman

Pleaseeeee!

He's part of the Giuliani and Goon gang.....

Part of the whole scam From the beginning, Parnus fed Solomon most of Solomon's fake and false propaganda.

He's even been mentioned in the impeachment trial.

in otherwords you cant refute the message so you attack the messenger,,,

With good reason...
I've rejected Solomon because he's a paid writer, doing a gig for Giuliani, Parnas, Digenovas, Fruman, Firtash..... while pretending like he's some super sleuth investigative reporter for the past year or two....not disclosing who he worked for...

A perfect SET UP, for the slanderers creating dirt..... a means to legitimize it and get it to the ears they want, to hear it.

I guess youre to fucking stupid to know that all writers are paid for their work,,,

at least he has documents to back up everything he writes,,,

"youre to fucking stupid"

 

[progressive hunter]

Former Vice President Joe Biden, now a 2020 Democratic presidential contender, has locked into a specific story about the controversy in Ukraine.

He insists that, in spring 2016, he strong-armed Ukraine to fire its chief prosecutor solely because Biden believed that official was corrupt and inept, not because the Ukrainian was investigating a natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, that hired Biden's son, Hunter, into a lucrative job.

There’s just one problem.

Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents — many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles — conflict with Biden’s narrative.

And they raise the troubling prospect that U.S. officials may have painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped ease Burisma’s legal troubles and stop prosecutors’ plans to interview Hunter Biden during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

For instance, Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country’s chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor's firing was announced.

In addition, Burisma’s American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to that memo and the American legal team’s internal emails.

The memos raise troubling questions:

1.) If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma's American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?"

2.) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Ukrainian prosecutors say they have tried to get this information to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) since the summer of 2018, fearing it might be evidence of possible violations of U.S. ethics laws. First, they hired a former federal prosecutor to bring the information to the U.S. attorney in New York, who, they say, showed no interest. Then, the Ukrainians reached out to President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, told Trump in July that he plans to launch his own wide-ranging investigation into what happened with the Bidens and Burisma.

Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017.

After I first reported it in a column, the New York Times and ABC News published similar stories confirming my reporting.


More at link below.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

John Soloman

Pleaseeeee!

He's part of the Giuliani and Goon gang.....

Part of the whole scam From the beginning, Parnus fed Solomon most of Solomon's fake and false propaganda.

He's even been mentioned in the impeachment trial.

in otherwords you cant refute the message so you attack the messenger,,,

With good reason...
I've rejected Solomon because he's a paid writer, doing a gig for Giuliani, Parnas, Digenovas, Fruman, Firtash..... while pretending like he's some super sleuth investigative reporter for the past year or two....not disclosing who he worked for...

A perfect SET UP, for the slanderers creating dirt..... a means to legitimize it and get it to the ears they want, to hear it.

I guess youre to fucking stupid to know that all writers are paid for their work,,,

at least he has documents to back up everything he writes,,,

"youre to fucking stupid"

but its true,,,didnt you watch madcows interview with parnes???

 

[colfax_m]

Apparently he didn’t do anything wrong, according to the evidence presented by his legal experts yesterday. Many omissions by shitt and the family stone.


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I am shocked I tell you that his legal team would say that. Wow, nobody saw that coming!

So, you are more concerned with the phone call than the actual corruption? Or do you think that Joe is clean?

Trump is the one engaging in corruption. That's what it's called when you tell another country to go after your political opponent for you.

 

[progressive hunter]

Former Vice President Joe Biden, now a 2020 Democratic presidential contender, has locked into a specific story about the controversy in Ukraine.

He insists that, in spring 2016, he strong-armed Ukraine to fire its chief prosecutor solely because Biden believed that official was corrupt and inept, not because the Ukrainian was investigating a natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, that hired Biden's son, Hunter, into a lucrative job.

There’s just one problem.

Hundreds of pages of never-released memos and documents — many from inside the American team helping Burisma to stave off its legal troubles — conflict with Biden’s narrative.

And they raise the troubling prospect that U.S. officials may have painted a false picture in Ukraine that helped ease Burisma’s legal troubles and stop prosecutors’ plans to interview Hunter Biden during the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

For instance, Burisma’s American legal representatives met with Ukrainian officials just days after Biden forced the firing of the country’s chief prosecutor and offered “an apology for dissemination of false information by U.S. representatives and public figures” about the Ukrainian prosecutors, according to the Ukrainian government’s official memo of the meeting. The effort to secure that meeting began the same day the prosecutor's firing was announced.

In addition, Burisma’s American team offered to introduce Ukrainian prosecutors to Obama administration officials to make amends, according to that memo and the American legal team’s internal emails.

The memos raise troubling questions:

1.) If the Ukraine prosecutor’s firing involved only his alleged corruption and ineptitude, why did Burisma's American legal team refer to those allegations as “false information?"

2.) If the firing had nothing to do with the Burisma case, as Biden has adamantly claimed, why would Burisma’s American lawyers contact the replacement prosecutor within hours of the termination and urgently seek a meeting in Ukraine to discuss the case?

Ukrainian prosecutors say they have tried to get this information to the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) since the summer of 2018, fearing it might be evidence of possible violations of U.S. ethics laws. First, they hired a former federal prosecutor to bring the information to the U.S. attorney in New York, who, they say, showed no interest. Then, the Ukrainians reached out to President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani.

Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, told Trump in July that he plans to launch his own wide-ranging investigation into what happened with the Bidens and Burisma.

Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017.

After I first reported it in a column, the New York Times and ABC News published similar stories confirming my reporting.


More at link below.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

John Soloman

Pleaseeeee!

He's part of the Giuliani and Goon gang.....

Part of the whole scam From the beginning, Parnus fed Solomon most of Solomon's fake and false propaganda.

He's even been mentioned in the impeachment trial.

in otherwords you cant refute the message so you attack the messenger,,,

With good reason...
I've rejected Solomon because he's a paid writer, doing a gig for Giuliani, Parnas, Digenovas, Fruman, Firtash..... while pretending like he's some super sleuth investigative reporter for the past year or two....not disclosing who he worked for...

A perfect SET UP, for the slanderers creating dirt..... a means to legitimize it and get it to the ears they want, to hear it.

I guess youre to fucking stupid to know that all writers are paid for their work,,,

at least he has documents to back up everything he writes,,,

"youre to fucking stupid"

"at least he has documents to back up everything he writes,,"

You're lying again. The truth is -- you don't know what he has since he still hasn't released what he said he was going to release.

 

[ChrisL]

They are dead set against investigating this and are trying to put a muzzle on the President and prevent him from doing so. I think he is persistent enough where he is eventually going to get to the bottom of all of this, and Joe's connections to Ukraine and Iraq.

 

[ChrisL]

Apparently he didn’t do anything wrong, according to the evidence presented by his legal experts yesterday. Many omissions by shitt and the family stone.


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I am shocked I tell you that his legal team would say that. Wow, nobody saw that coming!

So, you are more concerned with the phone call than the actual corruption? Or do you think that Joe is clean?

Trump is the one engaging in corruption. That's what it's called when you tell another country to go after your political opponent for you.

But if there was nothing there, then you wouldn't be so frightened. There IS something going on. The American people deserve to know.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They are dead set against investigating this and are trying to put a muzzle on the President and prevent him from doing so. I think he is persistent enough where he is eventually going to get to the bottom of all of this, and Joe's connections to Ukraine and Iraq.

Personally I would like to see it investigated. But by the DOJ and not Trump's personal lawyer whose only goal is to get Trump elected.

 

[ChrisL]

They are dead set against investigating this and are trying to put a muzzle on the President and prevent him from doing so. I think he is persistent enough where he is eventually going to get to the bottom of all of this, and Joe's connections to Ukraine and Iraq.

Personally I would like to see it investigated. But by the DOJ and not Trump's personal lawyer whose only goal is to get Trump elected.

I don't care HOW it comes out, as long as it comes out. I am of the opinion that most average Americans would agree with me. If there is REAL dirt there (which we KNOW there is), then what matters is that it is exposed one way or another.

 

[Olde Europe]

I don't know if Rudy dropped anything, but his erstwhile henchman dropped a huge hint. I bet it made Rudy nervous.


Lev Parnas has more recordings of Donald Trump, his attorney says

"Giuliani called Parnas a "demonstrated liar" during a Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham."

Trump's errand boy called his own bagman a "liar". So, why would you believe your ears hearing, "Take her out", or whatever else comes from him?

 

[Faun]

FINALLY, we have someone in there who is willing to even look into political corruption. That is great.

But only the political corruption of a possible opponent in the Nov election.

Lol. You guys just keep going with that. Seems to me that you are only hurting yourselves way more than you are hurting anyone else. *shrugs*

List all the other politicians that Trump has rooted out corruption on.

List all the other politicians that Trump asked foreign leader to find corruption on.

biden wasnt running for office when trump started looking into him,,,

He was running for office when Impeached Trump solicited a foreign national to look into Biden.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't care HOW it comes out, as long as it comes out. I am of the opinion that most average Americans would agree with me. If there is REAL dirt there (which we KNOW there is), then what matters is that it is exposed one way or another.

The average American does not give a shit either way. If you are on this board you care more about this tripe than the average American.

I care how it comes out because it if comes from Rudy it will always be tainted and questioned. I trust Rudy as much as I trust Biden.

 

[colfax_m]

Apparently he didn’t do anything wrong, according to the evidence presented by his legal experts yesterday. Many omissions by shitt and the family stone.


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I am shocked I tell you that his legal team would say that. Wow, nobody saw that coming!

So, you are more concerned with the phone call than the actual corruption? Or do you think that Joe is clean?

Trump is the one engaging in corruption. That's what it's called when you tell another country to go after your political opponent for you.

But if there was nothing there, then you wouldn't be so frightened. There IS something going on. The American people deserve to know.

I’m sure you have the same “American people deserve to know” opinion when it comes to finding out what Trump was doing with his pause on Ukrainian aid, but let’s put that aside for a second.

I’m worried that the president is using his power to go after political enemies. That should make everyone afraid. I just want Biden to be treated fairly like any American should be. That’s not happening.

 

[ChrisL]

FINALLY, we have someone in there who is willing to even look into political corruption. That is great.

But only the political corruption of a possible opponent in the Nov election.

Lol. You guys just keep going with that. Seems to me that you are only hurting yourselves way more than you are hurting anyone else. *shrugs*

List all the other politicians that Trump has rooted out corruption on.

List all the other politicians that Trump asked foreign leader to find corruption on.

biden wasnt running for office when trump started looking into him,,,

He was running for office when Impeached Trump solicited a foreign national to look into Biden.

Who cares? If there was nothing there, then there is nothing to be frightened about.

 

[Faun]

I'm sure Obama made PLENTY of personal calls, as well as every single other president, but keep digging your grave.

Let’s stay on topic. We don’t need your speculation about what you’re “sure” Obama or any other president did in order to have an opinion on Trump’s behavior.

If Trump wanted to get to the bottom of corruption, why wasn’t the DoJ involved?

I'm sorry, that is just not concerning for me, unlike what is going on in the Ukraine and Iraq with quid pro Joe.

Why isn’t it concerning? I thought you wanted to get to the bottom of corruption? Giuliani isn’t a prosecutor. He doesn’t have the power to subpoena anything. He can’t request aid from the PG of Ukraine.

Perhaps you don’t want to think about this because it doesn’t corroborate the Trump narrative.

I think you won’t answer the question because there is no rational answer that doesn’t detract from your beliefs.

I don't feel that President Trump has done anything wrong. Joe on the other hand is imbedded in corruption, like most lifelong politicians.

Your “feelings” aren’t what’s important here. I get that you feel loyal to Trump, but put that aside for a second.

If Biden needs to be investigated, it should be done fairly and by the proper authorities. Trump isn’t doing that.

Conservatism is a cult and these cult zombies don't care about rationality. They only care about serving and protecting their cult master.

 

[ChrisL]

Apparently he didn’t do anything wrong, according to the evidence presented by his legal experts yesterday. Many omissions by shitt and the family stone.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I am shocked I tell you that his legal team would say that. Wow, nobody saw that coming!

So, you are more concerned with the phone call than the actual corruption? Or do you think that Joe is clean?

Trump is the one engaging in corruption. That's what it's called when you tell another country to go after your political opponent for you.

But if there was nothing there, then you wouldn't be so frightened. There IS something going on. The American people deserve to know.

I’m sure you have the same “American people deserve to know” opinion when it comes to finding out what Trump was doing with his pause on Ukrainian aid, but let’s put that aside for a second.

I’m worried that the president is using his power to go after political enemies. That should make everyone afraid. I just want Biden to be treated fairly like any American should be. That’s not happening.

He was trying to get them to investigate corruption. I support that.

These career politicians need to be put on a short lease and watched like hawks.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

But only the political corruption of a possible opponent in the Nov election.

Lol. You guys just keep going with that. Seems to me that you are only hurting yourselves way more than you are hurting anyone else. *shrugs*

List all the other politicians that Trump has rooted out corruption on.

List all the other politicians that Trump asked foreign leader to find corruption on.

biden wasnt running for office when trump started looking into him,,,

He was running for office when Impeached Trump solicited a foreign national to look into Biden.

Who cares? If there was nothing there, then there is nothing to be frightened about.

Yep, no innocent person has ever gone to jail or had their reputation ruined by false information...

 

[joaquinmiller]

I don't know if Rudy dropped anything, but his erstwhile henchman dropped a huge hint. I bet it made Rudy nervous.


Lev Parnas has more recordings of Donald Trump, his attorney says

"Giuliani called Parnas a "demonstrated liar" during a Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham."

Trump's errand boy called his own bagman a "liar". So, why would you believe your ears hearing, "Take her out", or whatever else comes from him?

There's a curious condition that prevents Trump supporters from hearing Trump's conversation with Parnas, because in Trumpworld, Trump doesn't know Parnas. Lesser cultists would experience cognitive dissonance.

 

[progressive hunter]

FINALLY, we have someone in there who is willing to even look into political corruption. That is great.

But only the political corruption of a possible opponent in the Nov election.

Lol. You guys just keep going with that. Seems to me that you are only hurting yourselves way more than you are hurting anyone else. *shrugs*

List all the other politicians that Trump has rooted out corruption on.

List all the other politicians that Trump asked foreign leader to find corruption on.

biden wasnt running for office when trump started looking into him,,,

He was running for office when Impeached Trump solicited a foreign national to look into Biden.

he should have known that wouldnt protect him,,,

it all started long before that,,,

 

[Faun]

Oh sorry. You are a "conservative". ROFL.

Nope, I support smaller government, less spending and more freedoms....3 things that today's conservatives hate.

Yep, sure you do. Lol!

That is why you want to impeach a president for inquiring about corruption.

I am against the impeachment, have been all along.

I think what he did was wrong, but not illegal nor impeachment worthy.

Do try and keep up.

She's not dealing in reality.

 

[ChrisL]

Lol. You guys just keep going with that. Seems to me that you are only hurting yourselves way more than you are hurting anyone else. *shrugs*

List all the other politicians that Trump has rooted out corruption on.

List all the other politicians that Trump asked foreign leader to find corruption on.

biden wasnt running for office when trump started looking into him,,,

He was running for office when Impeached Trump solicited a foreign national to look into Biden.

Who cares? If there was nothing there, then there is nothing to be frightened about.

Yep, no innocent person has ever gone to jail or had their reputation ruined by false information...

Kind of like what your side is doing to Trump for trying to find out about corruption. Lol!

Right, I'm sure Joe Biden is clean; same with his deals he has going on in Iraq. He is Mr. Clean. I will have to find a Mr. Clean meme for him.