Russia will want revenge after losing the war, this may happen in 10 years – Ukraine's Defence Intellige

[Hector12]

It's not about the Second World War. It's about the Third World War. Ukrainian Neo-Nazi regime, backed by the EU and NATO discriminate, abuse and try to genocide the Russians.

Ukraine is not neo Nazi. The democratically elected leader of Ukraine is Jewish. No body wants "to genocide the Russians." Stop being afraid of your shadow.

 

[Hector12]

So, may be now is the time to crush European Nazism one more time.

There is no such thing as European Nazism. Stop believing Russian propaganda.

 

[Hector12]

On the contrary, Nazism is pretty alive and still kicking.

Russia is ruled by a dictatorship. NATO countries are democratic.

 

[Silver Cat]

Ukraine is not neo Nazi. The democratically elected leader of Ukraine is Jewish. No body wants "to genocide the Russians." Stop being afraid of your shadow.

Of course they are Nazies. You can read their Neo-Nazi propaganda even in other threads at USMB. And no, they are discriminating, abusing and genociding the Russians. Hitler also was democratically elected, and some people believe that he was partly Jewish. Anyway, being Jewish doesn't make a person saint.

 

[Deadstick]

The Second World War ended in 1945. Russia needs to get over it.

You get over 26 million dead and Ukrainian Nationalists wanting a repeat in Ukraine, do you actually know any History?

 

[Silver Cat]

There is no such thing as European Nazism. Stop believing Russian propaganda.

Sure it is. Just read what they are writing.

 

[Deadstick]

Russia is ruled by a dictatorship. NATO countries are democratic.

Putin is elected and they have a parliament you Moron.

 

[Silver Cat]

Russia is ruled by a dictatorship. NATO countries are democratic.

Really? What is democratic in the system where the third part of the whole population doesnt have citizenship, civil rights and even can't use their language officially?

 

[Deadstick]

On the contrary, Nazism is pretty alive and still kicking.

You can say that again, some of us have known it for years, others refuse to see it, these savages were turned loose on Donbass after the Coup, Hector needs to learn some history, know what the funny part is? the Nazis saw these Ukrainian collaborators as Untermench Lol! it's an extreme case of Stockholm syndrome.

https://player.odycdn.com/api/v4/streams/free/Ukrainian-nationalist-Aleksandr-Seredyuk-uses-the-tactics-and-ideology-of-German-and-Ukrainian-Nazis-of-the-WWII.--/1c57b0a8eb778602a97d4a1008848bd4f0741e1b/516fc7

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ukraine will never be in Nato, Russia just will not tolerate it, that's one of the reasons for the conflict you arrogant clown.

Russia is losing this war. Russia bow to it.

 

[luiza]

Another wonder-weapon has met its fate.

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No wonder Kyiv is on the point of conceding .
Already there are mutinies in some brigades .

 

[Deadstick]

Another wonder-weapon has met its fate.

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No wonder Kyiv is on the point of conceding .
Already there are mutinies in some brigades .

Funny part was the moron on SKY said it's not clear if the tank can be repaired LOL!!

 

[toomuchtime_]

Well Bandera is celebrated in the Ukrainian School curriculum, any Russian books some going back centuries have been taken down, the one book still there is Mein Kampf, put that in your pipr and smoke it.

You're and idiot and a liar. For the eastern Europeans Russia had always been the greatest threat and the Germans were seen as allies against the Russian's who were almost universally hated, just as today. Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who was imprisoned by the Nazis because of his Ukrainian nationalism, but who later aided them in their fight against Russia because Russia was the greater threat to Ukraine.

However, the point of the post was to show Putin did love the Soviet Union and has clearly stated his intention to "recover" the former soviet states.

 

[toomuchtime_]

As well as Russian tanks and nuclear missiles in Texas, Canada or Cuba doesn't pose any threat for the USA?

That would never happen because while the eastern Europeans have good reason to think Russia intends to destroy their sovereignty, America's neighbors do not have that fear about the US. NATO was the result of Russia's attempt to colonize eastern Europe at the end of WWII, and Putin loves the Russia that did that, so it would have been insane for these nations not to join NATO.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I bet you are really pissed off the Soviets won the war, if the Soviets had not gone into Polnad over two million Nazi troops would have been on Russia's border long before they were, are you aware Poland made a land grab in Czechoslovakia before that? probably not.

Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.

"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."

Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?

Ever since the Cold War, many Soviet and Russian politicians and academics have downplayed the role that U.S.-provided weapons and supplies played in the Red Army's ultimately victorious campaign against Hitler's Germany. But there is substantial evidence that the huge influx of materiel made an...

www.rferl.org

In 1939, British and French representatives were in Moscow urging Stalin to sign a mutual defense treaty with them so Hitler would immediately have faced a two front war, but the Russian lust for imperialist conquest overcame Stalin's better judgement, and he signed the German-Soviet Pact,

The German-Soviet Pact was signed in August 1939. It paved the way for the joint invasion and occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that September. The pact was an agreement of convenience between the two bitter ideological enemies. It permitted Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to carve up spheres of influence in eastern Europe, while pledging not to attack each other for 10 years.

German-Soviet Pact

The German-Soviet Pact paved the way for the joint invasion and occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in September 1939.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

and 25 million Russians died because Stalin couldn't resist grabbing more land from eastern Europeans.

 

[Deadstick]

You're and idiot and a liar. For the eastern Europeans Russia had always been the greatest threat and the Germans were seen as allies against the Russian's who were almost universally hated, just as today. Bandera was a Ukrainian nationalist who was imprisoned by the Nazis because of his Ukrainian nationalism, but who later aided them in their fight against Russia because Russia was the greater threat to Ukraine.

However, the point of the post was to show Putin did love the Soviet Union and has clearly stated his intention to "recover" the former soviet states.

The followers of Bandera took part in the Holocaust, like i said you are all broken up because the Soviets shredded the Nazis, who would have thought they would have to do it all over again.

 

[Deadstick]

Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.

"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."

Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war," he wrote in his memoirs. "One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

'We Would Have Lost': Did U.S. Lend-Lease Aid Tip The Balance In Soviet Fight Against Nazi Germany?

Ever since the Cold War, many Soviet and Russian politicians and academics have downplayed the role that U.S.-provided weapons and supplies played in the Red Army's ultimately victorious campaign against Hitler's Germany. But there is substantial evidence that the huge influx of materiel made an...

www.rferl.org

In 1939, British and French representatives were in Moscow urging Stalin to sign a mutual defense treaty with them so Hitler would immediately have faced a two front war, but the Russian lust for imperialist conquest overcame Stalin's better judgement, and he signed the German-Soviet Pact,

The German-Soviet Pact was signed in August 1939. It paved the way for the joint invasion and occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that September. The pact was an agreement of convenience between the two bitter ideological enemies. It permitted Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to carve up spheres of influence in eastern Europe, while pledging not to attack each other for 10 years.

German-Soviet Pact

The German-Soviet Pact paved the way for the joint invasion and occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union in September 1939.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

and 25 million Russians died because Stalin couldn't resist grabbing more land from eastern Europeans.

You have it the wrong way round, the Soviets saw the Nazi threat and it was the West that wouldn't sign a pact with Stalin, they were hoping the Nazis would attack the Soviet Union before Europe, the Soviets liberated Eastern Europe including the death camps like Auschwitz, millions of Ukrainian fought in the Red army, but they are not the Ukrainians commemorated by the vile Regime in Kiev, no they commemorate the SS and Bandera.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Speaking of Hitler youth this is the real Hitler youth tibute act in Ukraine, it really isn't a good look supporting Ukrainian Nazis who commemorate the Galizian SS and the collaborator Bandera, they desecrate Russian war memorials to the fallen who liberated Ukraine and put up statues the the Nazi collaborators, you need to look in the mirror.

Again, the people of eastern Europe were so desperate to escape Russian tyranny, they saw the Germans as liberators. To those people, Russia was seen as far worse than Germany, just as today neo nazis who fight for their country are far preferable to the Russian invaders who are trying to destroy it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The followers of Bandera took part in the Holocaust, like i said you are all broken up because the Soviets shredded the Nazis, who would have thought they would have to do it all over again.

You never quite tell the truth and that is because if you told the truth, it would be impossible to defend Russia. Bandera was in a German prison for nearly the entire German occupation of Ukraine, and while some members of OUN did assist the Nazis in the Holocaust, there is no link between these people and the leadership of OUN.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You have it the wrong way round, the Soviets saw the Nazi threat and it was the West that wouldn't sign a pact with Stalin, they were hoping the Nazis would attack the Soviet Union before Europe, the Soviets liberated Eastern Europe including the death camps like Auschwitz, millions of Ukrainian fought in the Red army, but they are not the Ukrainians commemorated by the vile Regime in Kiev, no they commemorate the SS and Bandera.

Again, you just can't bring yourself to tell the truth. When Stalin signed the pact with Hitler, British and French representatives were in Moscow urging him to sign a mutual defense treaty with them. Had Stalin signed that pact with the Britisn and French, there might never have been WWII.