Russian spy ship loitering off Virginia near worlds largest naval base officials say

[MindWars]

Russian spy ship 'loitering' off Virginia near world's largest naval base, officials say
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Well they are just floating around all over the place. Maybe they are watching our backs lol.

 

[Sunni Man]

 

[miketx]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

 

[Lewdog]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

 

[miketx]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Well then throw a hissy fit and blame Trump.

 

[westwall]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Who cares. We do it, they do it. It's been happening for well over 50 years. It's only the progressive media trying to "skeer the savages" who are trying to make it something it's not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You guys want a real-world story to show you how insignificant this is?

The Russians had an aircraft carrier undergoing overhaul in port in the Black Sea. We were sent to the Black Sea to check out if she was operational and training in the Black Sea itself. It was not. We left when Yuri Andropov dropped dead and did not want to provoke the Russians by being in their lake.

A few months later, we were back in the Med and here she comes steaming out with a task force to do ops in the Med. We followed her around the Med for a couple of months, often observing flight operations from underneath the approach path for the aircraft. That meant sticking our ship's bow right up the carriers ass at a distance of a few hundred yards. If that carrier twitched, we could easily have collided with the stern of the ship. We did it because it made the aircraft fly right over us when landing. It was probably one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life and you could only stand the watch for about a half hour at a time as the conning officer because it was so exhausting constantly checking the bearing and range of that behemoth in front of you only a couple of hundred yards away.

 

[Lewdog]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Who cares. We do it, they do it. It's been happening for well over 50 years. It's only the progressive media trying to "skeer the savages" who are trying to make it something it's not.

Really? China is ready to go to war over the South China Sea.

 

[Desperado]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Not only that, but Russian spy ships have been off our coasts since we started shooting rockets from Cape Canaveral. So this is nothing new, makes you wonder why the uproar now?

 

[miketx]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Who cares. We do it, they do it. It's been happening for well over 50 years. It's only the progressive media trying to "skeer the savages" who are trying to make it something it's not.

Really? China is ready to go to war over the South China Sea.

You mean like in airplanes and stuff?

 

[miketx]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Not only that, but Russian spy ships have been off our coasts since we started shooting rockets from Cape Canaveral. So this is nothing new, makes you wonder why the uproar now?

We know why. It's just more media bullshit to throw in Trumps face.

 

[Lewdog]

You guys want a real-world story to show you how insignificant this is?

The Russians had an aircraft carrier undergoing overhaul in port in the Black Sea. We were sent to the Black Sea to check out if she was operational and training in the Black Sea itself. It was not. We left when Yuri Andropov dropped dead and did not want to provoke the Russians by being in their lake.

A few months later, we were back in the Med and here she comes steaming out with a task force to do ops in the Med. We followed her around the Med for a couple of months, often observing flight operations from underneath the approach path for the aircraft. That meant sticking our ship's bow right up the carriers ass at a distance of a few hundred yards. If that carrier twitched, we could easily have collided with the stern of the ship. We did it because it made the aircraft fly right over us when landing. It was probably one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life and you could only stand the watch for about a half hour at a time as the conning officer because it was so exhausting constantly checking the bearing and range of that behemoth in front of you only a couple of hundred yards away.

You are comparing apples to oranges. We aren't talking about ships being close together in international waters. We are talking about ships spying on us from just off our coast. If you were going to use an example you should have went with a better one... when a US ship and a Russian submarine actually collided in the Sea of Japan.

SOVIET SUB AND U.S. SHIP COLLIDE

 

[Lewdog]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Who cares. We do it, they do it. It's been happening for well over 50 years. It's only the progressive media trying to "skeer the savages" who are trying to make it something it's not.

Really? China is ready to go to war over the South China Sea.

You mean like in airplanes and stuff?

Uh.. over ships and airplanes. Have you already forgotten about the research drone they picked out of the water?

 

[westwall]

According to current laws the ship is in international waters. So what?

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

Who cares. We do it, they do it. It's been happening for well over 50 years. It's only the progressive media trying to "skeer the savages" who are trying to make it something it's not.

Really? China is ready to go to war over the South China Sea.

Yes really. And no, they're not. Their blue water navy is still quite tiny. We could sweep them off the map in a few minutes. They won't push us till they have a lot more ships to lose.

 

[westwall]

You guys want a real-world story to show you how insignificant this is?

The Russians had an aircraft carrier undergoing overhaul in port in the Black Sea. We were sent to the Black Sea to check out if she was operational and training in the Black Sea itself. It was not. We left when Yuri Andropov dropped dead and did not want to provoke the Russians by being in their lake.

A few months later, we were back in the Med and here she comes steaming out with a task force to do ops in the Med. We followed her around the Med for a couple of months, often observing flight operations from underneath the approach path for the aircraft. That meant sticking our ship's bow right up the carriers ass at a distance of a few hundred yards. If that carrier twitched, we could easily have collided with the stern of the ship. We did it because it made the aircraft fly right over us when landing. It was probably one of the most stressful things I have ever done in my life and you could only stand the watch for about a half hour at a time as the conning officer because it was so exhausting constantly checking the bearing and range of that behemoth in front of you only a couple of hundred yards away.

You are comparing apples to oranges. We aren't talking about ships being close together in international waters. We are talking about ships spying on us from just off our coast. If you were going to use an example you should have went with a better one... when a US ship and a Russian submarine actually collided in the Sea of Japan.

SOVIET SUB AND U.S. SHIP COLLIDE

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If you would like to actually learn how much of a nothing this is I suggest you read a book called "Blind Mans Bluff"

Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story Of American Submarine Espionage: Sherry Sontag, Christopher Drew, Annette Lawrence Drew: 9781891620089: Amazon.com: Books

 

[DrainBamage]

Sure. International waters starts after the 12 mile mark off shore... however a lot of military ships have guns that can fire at a 30 nautical mile distance... and this is coming from a country, Russia, who threatened nuclear attack on Norway over 300 odd Marines training there.

I'm not sure relevance of naval gun range.

For one thing this is a spy ship, it doesn't have a gun that shoots 3 miles much less 30 miles. Also what exactly is your fear here, that a Russian ship will start spamming gun rounds into Norfolk? That is pretty close to the bottom of my list of fears, Russians aren't suicidal and that ship would be eating antiship missiles from the nearest maritime patrol craft and meeting the bottom of the ocean.

There are ships that can fire cruise missiles hundreds of miles, do we get all strung out with concern if one if a few hundred miles off the coast? What about ballistic missile submarines, should I break out my worry beads because they are within the 5,000+ mile range of USA?