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Good luck sitting in the dark freezing because of no electricity.Salt Lake City is going solar. Will cost about 2% more than present day energy costs. However, I am sure, by the time it gets fully online, it will be cheaper than fossil fuel costs.
Solar farm set to provide 80% of energy used by City of Salt Lake
“It’s so exciting and validating that this is not a fringe conversation anymore,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall said.www.sltrib.com
Yes, that's correctDo you have any concept of the ANGLE OF INCIDENCE? The further that solar energy has to go through the atmosphere the less hits the surface where your solar panels are...
Yes, in the arctic there are periods of no sun, as is true to for the antarcticBY the way, during the winter it is almost perpetual night.
The word 'little' doesn't describe the amount of energy reaching the earth.There is very little energy that makes it to the surface.
No, neither of us have IMO. I'm not making claims that aren't true but if you think I have then you'll have to produce something better than 'little'.You and Old Crock have eaten the whole pile of bull shit... all by yourselves...
Read your Finland link... It is only feasible for about 4 months of the year... During SUMMER and only as an adjunct to other generating systems.Yes, that's correct
Yes, in the arctic there are periods of no sun, as is true to for the antarctic
The word 'little' doesn't describe the amount of energy reaching the earth.
No, neither of us have IMO. I'm not making claims that aren't true but if you think I have then you'll have to produce something better than 'little'.
I posted a link that shows solar energy is feasible in Finland.
As is true for everywhere else on the face of the earth. Roughly speaking though because you're probably not suggesting the lower limb of the sunAt the polar circle, the sun just touches the horizon at its lowest point.
There is but it's minimalThere is no usable solar energy to harvest for several hours around that point.
Yes, that's true at the arctic circle and above and that relates to where the imaginary line is drawn on the earth.In December, the sun doesn't clear the horizon at all. There is no usable solar energy to harvest at all.
Between the lake effect snow squalls (from the Great Salt Lake) and the ice crystals that block the sun for three or four months of the year, its going to be a massive failure.. Those lake driven inversions last for months..Good luck sitting in the dark freezing because of no electricity.
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That's probably all true.Read your Finland link... It is only feasible for about 4 months of the year... During SUMMER and only as an adjunct to other generating systems.
Yet you're still bitterly clinging to the idea of practical solar energy in the far north.As is true for everywhere else on the face of the earth. Roughly speaking though because you're probably not suggesting the lower limb of the sun
There is but it's minimal
Yes, that's true at the arctic circle and above and that relates to where the imaginary line is drawn on the earth.
Do some homework on the practicability of solar in Finland and then get back to me. Particularly the question of the time required for payback.Yet you're still bitterly clinging to the idea of practical solar energy in the far north.
My being able to master celestial navigation alone turns it into a kindergarten debate!Do some homework on the practicability of solar in Finland and then get back to me. Particularly the question of the time required for payback.
It's really hard to take this stuff seriously when there's a need to debate hours of sunlight in any country or region of the world! Duhhhhh!
Does it take into account the decreasing efficiency of photovoltaics and the eventual need to replace them?Do some homework on the practicability of solar in Finland and then get back to me. Particularly the question of the time required for payback.
It's really hard to take this stuff seriously when there's a need to debate hours of sunlight in any country or region of the world! Duhhhhh!
Most solar panels are guaranteed to have 80% or more of original output at 25 years. You do realize that coal and gas fired plants also have to have replacement after a number of years, and that they have to have constant maintenance in between. While the only maintenance the solar farm needs is occasional cleaning of the panels.Does it take into account the decreasing efficiency of photovoltaics and the eventual need to replace them?
Of course, those of little intellect would consider this a problem. Anyone with any knowledge can see several ways to fix this.Good luck sitting in the dark freezing because of no electricity.
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Coal and gas fired plants run at night.Most solar panels are guaranteed to have 80% or more of original output at 25 years. You do realize that coal and gas fired plants also have to have replacement after a number of years, and that they have to have constant maintenance in between. While the only maintenance the solar farm needs is occasional cleaning of the panels.
There isn't any excess renewable energy. It never lives up to dataplate rating.And emit poisons at night. Pumped hydro, and the many other ways of storing excess renewable energy during the day, as well as wind turbines running at night works much better, at lower cost.
My goodness, you remain such a fool. First point, bird kill. Wind turbines are a very minor factor in human infrastructure that kills birds.There isn't any excess renewable energy. It never lives up to dataplate rating.
Oh, and you can stop pretending you care about the environment. You support electric vehicles and you don't give a damn that wind turbines kill birds.
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Yup, I called it. You don't care about the birds killed by your spinning monuments to unicorn farts.My goodness, you remain such a fool. First point, bird kill. Wind turbines are a very minor factor in human infrastructure that kills birds.
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Second point, excess energy of wind farms and solar. This man explains it well. And when we have grid scale storage of whatever type, those idled mills or solar panels could be charging that storage;
on Wiseman
, Corporate executive in US manufacturing
Updated 4 years ago · Author has 8.7K answers and 24M answer views
Originally Answered: Why do you sometime see many wind turbines not turning on a windy day?
The most common reason you see multiple turbines standing idle in a wind farm is curtailment. The utility will often ask the wind farm to turn off some of the machines when supply from all of their producers (gas, coal, hydro, wind and solar) is greater than demand.
This is one of the advantages of wind farms: their production is easily scalable. They can spin machines up or spin them down as necessary to meet demand, as long as the wind is blowing. So you’ll often see a wind farm that’s operating at a percentage of full capacity according to demand.
mehHow old are you? 13? In my lifetime, I have seen computers go from overgrown adding machines to devices you can hold in your hand, call to anywhere on Earth, and talk to, and get an answer. When I was a boy, we knew almost nothing about our solar system, now we have robots on the moon and Mars. We have flown by and taken pictures of all the planets and their moons. We are on the verge of having internet and communications anywhere on Earth via Space X's Starlink. These green technologies are being developed by the same people that gave us all of that and so much more. In the meantime, you are left standing beside the road, yelling "get a horse".
