San Jose railyard shooting....no AR-15 used, so press loses interest quickly. He used 3 hand guns.

[surada]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

I do see a difference...

600 million guns in private hands...over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry a gun in public for self defense...

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop brutal beatings, rapes, robberies and murders...

Versus 10,235 gun murders....over 70-80% of the victims are not normal Americans...they are criminals murdered by other criminals....and of the rest of the victims, the majority are friends, family, and associates of the actual criminals killed by mistake..in democrat party controlled voting districts....where the majority of murder occurs in the U.S......

so if you don't associate with criminals, if you don't have criminals in your family, and if you don't live in a democrat party controlled voting district, the odds of gun murder are about 0.

Meahwhile....

284.5 million cars in America......

39,107 deaths...

of the two, cars are deadlier than guns.....

also...

Muslim in Nice, France used a truck and murdered 86 people in 5 minutes of rampage driving.

The Las Vegas shooter, using a rifle from a distance of several hundred yards, firing from a concealed and fortified position, firing by ambush into a tightly packed crowd of 22,000 people.......killed 61.

So between guns and cars? Cars kill way more people....

"over 70-80% of the victims are not normal Americans..."

Would you say the same thing about automobile deaths?

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Do you not understand that guns are not the issue? That the real issue is the policies of the democrat party? That through their policies, they release violent gun offenders over and over again....and it is these repeat gun offenders doing almost all of the shooting in this country. The only reason they keep doing the shooting is the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep making laws, and rulings and decisions that release these violent gun offenders from jail and prison over and over again....

Why do you focus on normal gun owners, the ones not using guns for crime, but giving a complete pass to the democrat party, the ones actually responsible for our gun crime and gun murder?

Can you answer this question...or will you just pretend you don't understand it?

 

[surada]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

I see guns as the most effective tool to protect the lives of innocent people from criminals and from evil governments.......

Governments, after disarming their citizens, have murdered close to, likely well over 100 million innocent men, women and children......who were not criminals, and did nothing wrong.

Meanwhile, gun murder in the U.S. is almost exclusively a problem of criminals murdering other criminals...they are not innocent, they are engaged in crime.....

You would prefer the deaths of innocent men, women and children, for the small gain of criminals continuing to use guns to murder other criminals...since gun control laws do not stop them from getting guns.

"Governments, after disarming their citizens, have murdered close to, likely well over 100 million innocent men, women and children......who were not criminals, and did nothing wrong."

Do you want civil war in the US?

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

I do see a difference...

600 million guns in private hands...over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry a gun in public for self defense...

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop brutal beatings, rapes, robberies and murders...

Versus 10,235 gun murders....over 70-80% of the victims are not normal Americans...they are criminals murdered by other criminals....and of the rest of the victims, the majority are friends, family, and associates of the actual criminals killed by mistake..in democrat party controlled voting districts....where the majority of murder occurs in the U.S......

so if you don't associate with criminals, if you don't have criminals in your family, and if you don't live in a democrat party controlled voting district, the odds of gun murder are about 0.

Meahwhile....

284.5 million cars in America......

39,107 deaths...

of the two, cars are deadlier than guns.....

also...

Muslim in Nice, France used a truck and murdered 86 people in 5 minutes of rampage driving.

The Las Vegas shooter, using a rifle from a distance of several hundred yards, firing from a concealed and fortified position, firing by ambush into a tightly packed crowd of 22,000 people.......killed 61.

So between guns and cars? Cars kill way more people....

"over 70-80% of the victims are not normal Americans..."

Would you say the same thing about automobile deaths?

No....that is what makes automobile deaths more horrible...the majority of Automobile deaths are normal people killed in accidents, many by drunk drivers...

Gun murder is as I pointed out majority criminals murdered by other criminals.....and if you don't associate with criminals or live in democrat party controlled voting districts, your chance of being shot is almost 0.

From the Washington Post....not a conservative or gun friendly news source...

As the below charts show, Democratic areas (measured by the party that controls the congressional district) are far more likely to experience almost all forms of malicious gun violence than Republican areas. These charts exclude suicides, for which data are not available on a congressional district basis, so it only breaks down the fraction of gun violence that is accidental or confrontational.
--------

A distinct pattern emerged: In Democratic regions of the country, which tend to be cities, people are more likely to be murdered with a gun than they are to shoot themselves to death.

In regions of the country won by Republicans, which tend to be rural areas and small towns, the opposite is true — people are more likely to shoot themselves to death than they are to be murdered with a gun.
----
In the most Democratic regions, gun violence is more often committed against another, crimes that probably generate more news coverage and fear. In the most Republican areas, it is more often committed against oneself, suicides that may not attract as much attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...prising-way-gun-violence-is-dividing-america/

 

[surada]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Do you not understand that guns are not the issue? That the real issue is the policies of the democrat party? That through their policies, they release violent gun offenders over and over again....and it is these repeat gun offenders doing almost all of the shooting in this country. The only reason they keep doing the shooting is the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep making laws, and rulings and decisions that release these violent gun offenders from jail and prison over and over again....

Why do you focus on normal gun owners, the ones not using guns for crime, but giving a complete pass to the democrat party, the ones actually responsible for our gun crime and gun murder?

Can you answer this question...or will you just pretend you don't understand it?

Gun violence has always been a problem regardless of who is president.. There are just more of us now.. so there are more criminals and crazies per capita.

You can't blame this on Democratic policies. Was the shooter in the Railyard a Democrat? Was he a licensed gun owner?

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

I see guns as the most effective tool to protect the lives of innocent people from criminals and from evil governments.......

Governments, after disarming their citizens, have murdered close to, likely well over 100 million innocent men, women and children......who were not criminals, and did nothing wrong.

Meanwhile, gun murder in the U.S. is almost exclusively a problem of criminals murdering other criminals...they are not innocent, they are engaged in crime.....

You would prefer the deaths of innocent men, women and children, for the small gain of criminals continuing to use guns to murder other criminals...since gun control laws do not stop them from getting guns.

"Governments, after disarming their citizens, have murdered close to, likely well over 100 million innocent men, women and children......who were not criminals, and did nothing wrong."

Do you want civil war in the US?

Why would you ask that?

What bearing does that have with that fact?

Germany...Russia...China....Cuba....Cambodia......and the other socialist countries murdered over 100 million innocent men, women and children for no reason.......

They had no way to fight back.....they were just rounded up and murdered....

The first gun control laws in this country were created to keep guns out of the hands of slaves and indians....

When the slave owners created the democrat party, and then started and lost the Civil War, the first thing they did after taking back power in the South was to ban guns for freed Blacks...first the democrats had the Slave Codes...which banned guns for slaves, then they had the Black Codes, which banned guns for free Blacks...

Notice the trend?

 

[surada]

Yawn, guy, 40,000 Americans die every year from guns. Very few of them are "evil people".

Yawn, girl. 40,000 Americans die in motor vehicle accidents every year. Very few of them are "evil people."

Ban cars.

But, only the cars that look scary.

More people die falling off ladders every year than die in mass public shootings each year...ladders need to be banned.

( Ladder falling deaths....300, not specified by year
Ladder Safety

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Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Gun death and violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Do you not understand that guns are not the issue? That the real issue is the policies of the democrat party? That through their policies, they release violent gun offenders over and over again....and it is these repeat gun offenders doing almost all of the shooting in this country. The only reason they keep doing the shooting is the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep making laws, and rulings and decisions that release these violent gun offenders from jail and prison over and over again....

Why do you focus on normal gun owners, the ones not using guns for crime, but giving a complete pass to the democrat party, the ones actually responsible for our gun crime and gun murder?

Can you answer this question...or will you just pretend you don't understand it?

Gun violence has always been a problem regardless of who is president.. There are just more of us now.. so there are more criminals and crazies per capita.

You can't blame this on Democratic policies. Was the shooter in the Railyard a Democrat? Was he a licensed gun owner?

I can blame it on democrat policies.......

You pick out the rarest of rare events to try to prove your point....

320 million Americans...

10,235 gun murders...

Mass public shootings by year

2018.... 12...total killed 93
2019..... 10 ...total killed 73
2020..... 1 ....total killed 5

So you use the rarest of rare events with year total deaths that are less than people dying from falling off of ladders....

Deaths falling off ladders.....300

Ladder Safety

www.nachi.org

Sooooo...

you use the recent mass public shooting to try to prove your point......while there are 10,235 gun murders in 2019, there were a total of 73 killed in mass public shootings, primarily because they occurred in gun free zones.

That leaves 10,162 gun murders primarily caused by criminals murdering other criminals in democrat party controlled cities...

I have the news articles and can cite the specific policies of the democrats which cause repeat gun offenders to be released to shoot again...

Our problem isn't guns or mass shooters...our problem is the democrat party.....and their belief that releasing violent gun offenders over and over again no matter how many times they are arrested for illegal guns is a good idea..

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Both are tools. Both are involved in 40,000 deaths a year. One you DON'T have a right to own or use.

 

[2aguy]

Yawn, guy, 40,000 Americans die every year from guns. Very few of them are "evil people".

Yawn, girl. 40,000 Americans die in motor vehicle accidents every year. Very few of them are "evil people."

Ban cars.

But, only the cars that look scary.

Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Gun death and violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

More people die falling off ladders every year than die in mass public shootings each year...ladders need to be banned.

( Ladder falling deaths....300, not specified by year
Ladder Safety

You tried to use the recent mass public shooting in San Jose to protect the democrats from their culpability in causing gun murder and gun crime in the U.S........you didn't use the 10,235 gun murder number because that number shows that my point on the democrats causing gun murder and crime is true.....

So when you pointed to the rarest of rare events, the mass public shooting.......I showed you that each year, mass public shootings kill fewer people than ladders do...

Now you are trying to shift the goal post and use all gun deaths vs. ladders......

You are not being honest........do you want to try again?

 

[surada]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Both are tools. Both are involved in 40,000 deaths a year. One you DON'T have a right to own or use.

I get a sense that on this board you are blaming either Democrats or victims for gun deaths.

 

[surada]

14 Facts to understanding gun violence in America.

These 14 Facts Are Crucial to Understanding Gun Violence in America

Rampage attacks, like the one that left a Louisiana congressman in critical condition last week, are horrifying, and to victims and families, devastating. But they are not an especially good proxy for understanding the epidemic of gun violence in America. In any given week, there are over 200...

www.thetrace.org

 

[surada]

Yawn, guy, 40,000 Americans die every year from guns. Very few of them are "evil people".

Yawn, girl. 40,000 Americans die in motor vehicle accidents every year. Very few of them are "evil people."

Ban cars.

But, only the cars that look scary.

Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Gun death and violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

More people die falling off ladders every year than die in mass public shootings each year...ladders need to be banned.

( Ladder falling deaths....300, not specified by year
Ladder Safety

You tried to use the recent mass public shooting in San Jose to protect the democrats from their culpability in causing gun murder and gun crime in the U.S........you didn't use the 10,235 gun murder number because that number shows that my point on the democrats causing gun murder and crime is true.....

So when you pointed to the rarest of rare events, the mass public shooting.......I showed you that each year, mass public shootings kill fewer people than ladders do...

Now you are trying to shift the goal post and use all gun deaths vs. ladders......

You are not being honest........do you want to try again?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Both are tools. Both are involved in 40,000 deaths a year. One you DON'T have a right to own or use.

I get a sense that on this board you are blaming either Democrats or victims for gun deaths.

Now, do the same for motor vehicular collisions.

Half of gun deaths are the fault of the victims.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

14 Facts to understanding gun violence in America.

These 14 Facts Are Crucial to Understanding Gun Violence in America

Rampage attacks, like the one that left a Louisiana congressman in critical condition last week, are horrifying, and to victims and families, devastating. But they are not an especially good proxy for understanding the epidemic of gun violence in America. In any given week, there are over 200...

www.thetrace.org

I am not reading that bullshit propaganda because it doesn't matter.

We're getting machine guns one way or another. Accept it.

 

[surada]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Both are tools. Both are involved in 40,000 deaths a year. One you DON'T have a right to own or use.

I get a sense that on this board you are blaming either Democrats or victims for gun deaths.

Now, do the same for motor vehicular collisions.

Half of gun deaths are the fault of the victims.

You mean blame the victims or the Deocrats?

 

[surada]

14 Facts to understanding gun violence in America.

These 14 Facts Are Crucial to Understanding Gun Violence in America

Rampage attacks, like the one that left a Louisiana congressman in critical condition last week, are horrifying, and to victims and families, devastating. But they are not an especially good proxy for understanding the epidemic of gun violence in America. In any given week, there are over 200...

www.thetrace.org

I am not reading that bullshit propaganda because it doesn't matter.

We're getting machine guns one way or another. Accept it.

Really? Who are you planning to shoot?

Wyoming has the most gun deaths.. Will they also need machine guns?

 

[surada]

Gun-related deaths reached 40-year peak 2017, CDC study ...

Gun-related deaths reached 40-year peak 2017, CDC study finds

Gun-related deaths in the U.S. last year reached their highest point in 40 years, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s WONDER database.

www.foxnews.com

Dec 17, 2018 · In October 2017, a gunman opened fire on a Las Vegas crowd of 22,000 concertgoers, killing 58 and injuring nearly 500. The following month, a gunman …

 

[surada]

11 Facts That Tell the Story of Gun Violence in 2017

11 Facts That Tell the Story of Gun Violence in 2017

This year, the world took notice of one gun statistic in particular: the grim designation of “deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history,” a mantle that passed to the Las Vegas massacre in October. But for all the coverage that the shooting’s death toll received, other numbers reveal more...

www.thetrace.org

Gun deaths rose above 100 per day.
21 states have recorded increases in gun suicides.
Every week, 136 children and teenagers are shot.
More than 135,000 students in the United States have lived through school shootings since …

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Why do people need a Ford Mustang, or a Dodge Challanger?

Neither automobile is a weapon.

Cars kill more people than guns do.....we need to ban them...

2019..... cars killed 39,107 people.....

2019, guns, used illegally......killed 10,235 people...

A Truck, used by a muslim terrorist in Nice France murdered more people than even the Las Vegas shooter.........

Truck in Nice, France....87 people killed.

Las Vegas shooter....61 people....

You really don't see any difference between a gun and an automobile????

Both are tools. Both are involved in 40,000 deaths a year. One you DON'T have a right to own or use.

I get a sense that on this board you are blaming either Democrats or victims for gun deaths.

I am blaming democrats, and how do I blame victims?

And that image...is a lie...sorry, it just is....the way they get that number is to lie.....they define "Teenager" as 15-20 year olds.....why?

Because if they don't include these ages, then they can't get that number, since the reality, the truth is that most deaths of "teenagers," are gang members being shot by other gang members...they are not normal kids playing in their front yard....and that is the lie they use to fool people like you....

Here....from your source...

• In 2019, at least 32 Texan children ages 0-17 died in unintentional shootings.

told you.......15 years old is the one of the early ages of gang membership and gang violence...some are even younger....so my point still stands...criminals murdering other criminals, not matter how young the criminal is...

From the CDC...total number of gun murders of Children age <1 - 14......?

For the entire country...?

269

I stop at 14 for the reason already stated, and even then, gang members as young as 13 have murdered people.....

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Total number of accidental child deaths by gun accident <1 - 14..... in the entire U.S.....?

51


Do you see how they are lying to you?