San Jose railyard shooting....no AR-15 used, so press loses interest quickly. He used 3 hand guns.

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Here...

A man who’s on probation for illegal gun possession and on bond for a pending charge of being a felon in possession of a firearm was arrested at the Roosevelt Red Line station after police found yet another gun in his waistband and $500 worth of crack in his shoe, prosecutors said.

Kenny Crowder, 33, is charged with a fresh count of unlawful use of a weapon by a felon and possession of a controlled substance.

Man on probation for one gun case and on bail for another gun case had a gun at Roosevelt CTA station, prosecutors say | CWB Chicago


Chicago....

Chicago police on Tuesday arrested Clarence Hebron, a convicted murderer who has been wanted in connection with a double-slaying in suburban Riverdale in November. Hebron was out of jail on “affordable bail” for reckless homicide and two separate counts of armed habitual criminal when police said he killed his 26-year-old girlfriend, Jessica Beal, and her 27-year-old brother, Damien, on November 27.

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His extensive criminal background includes a 2007 conviction for second-degree murder in which he and his cousin fatally shot a man, D’Antignac said Wednesday.
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At the time of the Beals’ murders, Hebron was awaiting trial for allegedly killing a woman with his car as he fled from police in April 2019. At the time of that incident, he was already on bail for two separate counts of Class X armed habitual criminal, according to court records.

Cops arrest man wanted for double-murder while on "affordable bail" for reckless homicide and 2 gun cases | CWB Chicago



Chicago..

A Chicago man shot and killed a 16-year-old rival gang member over a haircut last week while on affordable bail for discharging a handgun, prosecutors said.

Jesus Moro, 21, is the eighth person charged with killing or shooting someone in Chicago this year while on bail for other serious felonies.

Prosecutors said 16-year-old Julian Castillo, a member of the Two Six street gang, was visiting a man on the first floor of a home in Chicago Lawn last Friday evening while Moro, a Latin King gang member, was on the second floor.

When the man went upstairs to get a glass of water, Moro’s fellow Latin King member, 20-year-old Sergio Rodriguez, began to ask him about his haircut and said the cut was a Two Six style, Assistant State’s Attorney Angel Eggleston said.
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On July 3, police arrested Moro after CPD surveillance cameras recorded him firing a handgun outside John Spry Elementary School in Little Village, according to court records. In his arrest report, cops called Moro “a highly active Latin King gang member.”

Judge David Navarro ordered Moro held in lieu of $100,000 the next day, but Judge LeRoy Martin Jr cut that in half a few days later, and Moro went home by posting a $5,000 deposit bond, records show.
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Moro went to prison for a year following a nearly identical incident in October 2017. In that case, police surveillance cameras recorded footage of Moro firing a gun at a passing car just a block away from Spry Elementary, according to CPD records. Police allegedly recovered a gun from Moro’s bedroom after that incident and he admitted to “testing the gun.”

On Monday, Moro found himself in front of Judge Navarro again on the new murder charges. Navarro ordered him held without bail for Castillo’s slaying and held without bail for violating terms of bail in his pending reckless discharge case.

Rodriguez, who received an 18-month prison sentence for reckless discharge of a firearm in 2019, was also ordered held without bail.

#8: “Highly active” gang member charged with killing rival over haircut — while on affordable bail | CWB Chicago



New york....



When asked if the NYPD would bring back its plain-clothes unit, the police commissioner said making gun arrests is not the problem right now as people are getting arrested with guns and are “walking right out the courtroom” with no consequences.

NYPD commissioner talks subway policing, increase in gun violence





Chicago

Chicago has Wild West levels of homicide.

(Worse, in fact; the criminality and violence of the ungoverned West has been greatly exaggerated, and some of those old cow towns had lower per capita crime rates back when they had no formal government than they do today.)

Do you know what kind of crime illegal possession of a firearm is in the state of Illinois?

It is a misdemeanor.

A 2014 study conducted by the Chicago Sun-Times found that in most cases, Cook County judges handed down the minimum sentence for gun possession, and in most cases, the criminals ended up serving far less than that, doing only a few months.

Those charged with simple possession had an average of four prior arrests; those charged with the more serious crime of being a felon in possession of a firearm had an average of ten previous arrests.

Ten arrests, and the eleventh is for a gun-related crime.

One wonders how many undetected crimes are covered by such criminal careers.

Many in Illinois have argued that, given the state of crime there, stiffer sentences are warranted.

A bill was introduced to that end, and it was opposed by Democrats who argued that stiffer sentences for those actually committing crimes with guns would “unfairly target African-Americans,” as the Sun-Times put it.

The NRA, to its discredit, opposed that bill, too, arguing that the penalties for simple possession in absence of other criminal activity were too stiff.

But that’s an argument for liberalizing Illinois gun laws, not for forgoing the punishment of criminals.

The NRA did support harsher punishment for felons in possession of firearms, and for the use of firearms in crimes. Democrats have generally opposed them.






“If a gun is used during a violent felony offense – such as a robbery – California’s ‘10-20-Life’ gun enhancement applies,” it said. “A 10-year enhancement is available for any use of a gun, which is increased to 20 years if the gun is discharged, and to 25-to-life if great bodily injury or death occurs.”

AB 1509, as the bill is known, would eliminate the use of most gun enhancements and significantly reduce the others, modifying them from 10-20-life to 1-2-3 years.



California May Soften Gun Crime Laws, Citing Impact On People Of Color





California...



California on Saturday will begin increasing early release credits for about 76,000 inmates, including tens of thousands who were convicted of violent crimes, as the state continues to reduce its prison population.

The Associated Press reported that of the 76,000 who will be eligible for early release, some 63,000 were convicted of violent crimes. They will now be eligible to obtain good behavior credits that will “shorten their sentences by one-third instead of the one-fifth that had been in place since 2017,” the outlet reported. That number includes 20,000 inmates who were sentenced to life sentences with the possibility of parole.

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“In essence, the bill decriminalizes the use of a firearm in California for the most severe, most violent felonies,” Siddall told The Daily Wire. “What this bill would do is encourage violent criminals to use guns during their crime because the penalty is so insignificant.”

Its passage would be retroactive, meaning some prisoners currently incarcerated on firearm enhancement charges could be released. However, Lee’s office said the bill limits retroactivity based on the crime, and not everyone would be eligible for resentencing.

According to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, approximately 40,000 inmates in custody, or about 40% of the prison population, have a firearm enhancement attached to their sentences.



California Makes 76,000 Inmates, Including Violent And Repeat Felons, Eligible For Early Release In Push To Reduce Prison Population

Chicago...



A suburban man who’s accused of running onto the field during a White Sox game Friday evening got a good taste of Chicago’s judicial system priorities when a judge ordered him held on a higher bail than some accused gun offenders received during the same felony bond court session.
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Navarro on Saturday ordered 19-year-old Liam Wolfer held in lieu of $5,000 bail on a charge of criminal trespass to a place of public amusement after prosecutors said the Plainfield resident dodged security officers while dashing from one foul pole to the other as the South Siders faced the Texas Rangers.
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Wolfer sounds like a jerk, and DUI is an offense that can kill innocents. But in this instance, for disrupting a ball game, why does his offense merit higher bail than these people on the same day in the same courtroom:

During the same hearing, Navarro released no fewer than three men accused of felony illegal gun possession on their own recognizance — no money down, according to court records.

Or the same bail as:

Navarro allowed three other alleged gun offenders to go home for the same amount Wolfer had to pay.

These bail decisions have real consequences:

Records maintained by CWBChicago show that at least 17 people have been charged with murder, attempted murder, or shooting someone while out of jail on affordable bail amounts set by Navarro since 2019. That’s far more than any of the other five judges who handle Chicago’s felony bond court hearings.

Man who ran across field during Chicago White Sox game held on higher bail than people charged with illegal gun possession





Attacking the police

Last year, the United States tallied more than 20,000 murders — the highest total since 1995 and 4,000 more than in 2019. Preliminary FBI data for 2020 points to a 25% surge in murders — the largest single year increase since the agency began publishing uniform data in 1960.

Policing is to blame, or rather the lack of it.

In the wake of the May and June unrest, public officials’ decisions and growing hostility toward policing left law enforcement demoralized, debilitated and, in some cases, defunded. Even the most dedicated officers who now face a greater risk of being sued, fired or prosecuted for doing their job feel pressure to pull back.

The message from a new wave of progressive prosecutors is clear: making arrests for drug and weapons crimes that will go unprosecuted exposes officers to the risk of disciplinary action, lawsuits and criminal prosecution. To mitigate that risk, police take a more passive approach.

Data shows a precipitous decline in law enforcement activity from last June through this February. We found that across the 10 major cities we studied, deadly violence rose as engaged policing fell. Cities that cut (or threaten to) police budgets often saw the largest drops in active policing and the increases in homicide.





New york

In December 2020, roughly 20 New York legislators pushed for a package they dubbed “Justice Roadmap 2021,” which included the so-called “Elder Parole Bill,” which would require that “incarcerated New Yorkers over age 55 who have served 15 or more consecutive years be considered for parole regardless of their crime or sentence.”

That same month, it was reported that “New York City has released almost all its inmates arrested on gun charges this year, which police say has led to the city’s soaring rates of gun crime.”

It turns out that policies have consequences. Specifically, New York’s strategy of releasing violent offenders has violent consequences.
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The Daily Wire reported on March 31 that a man arrested for a brutal attack against an Asian woman in Manhattan “was reportedly out on parole for stabbing his own mother to death in 2002.”

“Elliot was charged with murder in 2002 for stabbing his mother three times in the chest with a kitchen knife. The attack occurred in front of Elliot’s 5-year-old sister, sources told [the New York Post]. His mother died two days later,” the report continued.

“Elliot was convicted of murder and sentenced to 15 years-to-life in prison. He was twice denied parole but was released on a lifetime parole in 2019,” The Daily Wire added.
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Just days ago, the New York Post reported that “[a] knife-wielding man on parole for attempted murder randomly attacked a Hassidic couple walking with their 1-year-old in Lower Manhattan on Wednesday — slashing all three family members, cops and police sources said.”

“The man was released from jail last month. He spent several years behind bars after pleading guilty to attempted murder tied to a violent August 2011 robbery on the Upper East Side, according to the sources,” the New York Post added.
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In February 2021, the New York Post reported that “[a] parolee allegedly dragged a woman into the bushes in Prospect Park and tried to sexually assault the 33-year-old — but she fought him off and he was soon arrested thanks to a witness who followed him and called 911.”

“Police quickly caught up with the man, who cops identified as Carlis Clarke, after finding video surveillance of him leaving the building. He was charged with criminal sexual act, robbery, and unlawful imprisonment, according to the NYPD,” the New York Post continued.

Clarke was released from prison just days earlier, having served 16 months of a two-year sentence for a weapons conviction, according to prison records.



Why violent crime surged after police across America retreated

New York Releases Violent Offenders Who Then Commit More Violence



New York

As the New York Post reports, Wilson already has five open gun-related cases against him, including an armed robbery charge, but none of those cases resulted in Wilson heading to jail.



Wilson ended up in cuffs today, but just last week another Brooklyn judge released Wilson after his initial arrest, indicating that the bail reform efforts in New York State tied his hands.

Office of Court Administration spokesman Lucian Chalfen defended the judge’s decision. “Based on the facts of the case in front of him, indicating that this defendant was not the individual who possessed the gun, the judge, with the consent of the District Attorney, determined that a release on his own recognizance was the least restrictive form of bail as required by law,” Chalfen said.

Keep in mind here; Wilson hasn’t just been charged with simple possession of a firearm without a license. Back in 2016 Wilson faced murder charges as a juvenile, though the Post notes that the outcome of that case has been sealed. Since then Wilson has allegedly been involved in a number of other violent crimes.

On the afternoon of June 4 last year, in front of a shuttered storefront in Jamaica, Queens, Wilson allegedly approached another man with a silver .38-caliber pistol loaded with two rounds and barked, “Don’t move!” But the alleged robbery was thwarted when cops arrived.
In addition to the firearm, he allegedly had 33 small blue baggies of cocaine stuffed inside a tennis ball in his sweatshirt pocket, according to the complaint.
He was charged with gun possession, attempted armed robbery, drug possession and other raps — but was out six days later after posting $25,000 bail.
A month later, Wilson’s alleged crime spree resumed on July 15, 2020, when a pair of women lured two men to the Cresthaven Inn at JFK for what they thought would be a good time.
Instead, Wilson and two pals allegedly burst into the room with guns trained on the men. One of Wilson’s unapprehended cohorts whacked one of the victims in the head with a firearm, then swiped his iPhone, Rolex, the keys to his white Mercedes and $600 in cash.
19-Year Old New Yorker Arrested For Fifth Gun-Related Crime

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Here....

Felon charged with shooting Chicago police officers has decade-long history of drug and gun crimes

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Lovelle Jordan was on parole when Chicago police took him into custody. Before Thursday's gunfight with officers, the 25-year-old had spent about a third of his life in the criminal justice system, much of that time behind bars.



It was just April 10 of this year at the Pinckneyville state prison in Southern Illinois that Lovelle Jordan was freed on parole after serving the required 50-percent of a five year sentence for gun possession by a felon.


"I think we need to do a better job of holding gun offenders accountable," Chicago Police Chief of Detectives Brendan Deenihan said at a press conference Friday morning.



-2012: heroin and cocaine possession

--2015: drug possession

--2016: drug possession, aggravated assault and fleeing police

--2017: caught with a gun and convicted as an "armed habitual criminal"



"He was on electronic monitoring until June and then that was removed and now a month later he's armed with a gun going into a stolen car with officers 5 feet away from him which leads to him shooting officers," said Chief Deenihan. "They don't want these offenders released back into their neighborhoods with guns. This is a convicted felon on parole, just gets off EM and he's got a gun on him. Not only does he have a gun on him, he walks right in front of officers to get in a stolen vehicle because he thinks he's going to be able to be that quick to get away.





Obama...

Obama Continues His Crusade against a Criminal-Justice System He Derides as Racist | National Review

President Barack Obama commuted the sentences of 214 federal prisoners yesterday, part of his ongoing crusade against a criminal-justice system he regularly declares racist and draconian. The White House trumpeted the fact that this was the largest one-day grant of clemency since 1900. Some of the prisoners will be released now; others will have to stay in prison a while longer for more drug rehabilitation.

The vast majority of prisoners exemplify the so-called nonviolent-drug-offender category, a primary focus of “criminal-justice reform” advocates. But a search of the commutation database comes up with 156 hits for “firearms” (some of those hits are multiple counts for the same offender).
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Many of the commuttees possessed stolen firearms or firearms with their serial numbers obliterated. Some were in violation of National Firearms Registration, which can mean possession of a federally prohibited weapon, such as a machine gun, silencer, or sawed-off shotgun. We don’t know how many guns the offenders actually had; a commuttee during a previous batch of commutations had 40.
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Exclusive: As violence rises, prosecutors bargain away gun charges

The Star's findings include:

• More than half of felony gun charges were dismissed, usually in plea agreements.

• Possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon — the charge specifically aimed at getting violent criminals off the streets — was dismissed in 41 percent of cases.

• A change in the state's criminal code that began July 1 reduced the jail time for possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon.

Why the charges meant to keep gunslingers off the street are dropped is a complicated question tangled in prosecutorial will, rules of evidence and sentencing practices written into the law. But when shown The Star's findings, Newman called for legislation to close the incentive to bargain away such charges. It is an idea endorsed by public safety officials.

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But The Star's review of every gun charge in Marion County from 2009 to June of this year found that prosecutors — Democrat and Republican alike — dismissed 3,059 gun charges, including 1,508 felony counts. Among those dismissals were 371 charges for possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon.
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Leandrew "L-Rock" Beasley, a drug dealer with a history of gun violence, took part in a wild and deadly shootout on the Northeastside not long after getting out of prison in 2012.

In the melee, Beasley clutched a gun in each fist, blasting away. More than 40 shots were fired as neighbors huddled in their homes and bystanders were only yards away.

James Allen III was struck by six bullets, including a fatal shot to the head. Yet another name was added to the long list of Indianapolis murder victims — a toll that accelerated this year causing the community and public officials to join in discussions and seek answers to a deadly surge in gun violence.

And, while many agree that attacking root causes such as poverty, despair, poor parenting and educational failure can help, Beasley's case points to a more immediate, more pressing question, one uncovered in a recent Indianapolis Star investigation.

Why wasn't Beasley in prison that day? And what about others like him?

Twice, Beasley had been charged with possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon, an offense specifically designed to reduce the murder rate. The crime carried a 20-year prison sentence. Yet — twice — prosecutors dropped the gun charge, allowing Beasley to plead guilty to a lesser offense and escape a long prison term.
Making such charges stick could significantly reduce the number of shootings in Indianapolis, some criminal justice experts say, because it would take gun-toting career criminals like Beasley off the street. There is little or no dispute about the logic behind the law.

"If you have a violent felon and he's carrying a gun, practically nothing good can come of it," said former Marion County prosecutor Scott Newman, who helped write the 1999 law.

'I'm angry that he was out'

The serious violent felon law has been called "the homicide prevention statute," but it didn't stop Beasley and others.

Beasley, 33, had all the hallmarks of why the law was written. At his sentencing hearing, the prosecutor noted that Beasley had a juvenile record and seven convictions as an adult, with 19 arrests.

"He's had many chances," the prosecutor told the judge.
Beasley had a long rap sheet that included multiple drug and gun arrests, including two convictions for carrying a handgun without a license.

In 2008 and again in 2009, Beasley was charged with possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon. But prosecutors dropped the charges both times.
Instead, he pleaded guilty to lesser charges: visiting a common nuisance in the 2008 case and resisting law enforcement in the 2009 case, both pleas coming during former prosecutor Carl Brizzi's term.

Had he been convicted on the 2009 gun charge and received even the advisory sentence of 10 years, rather than the maximum of 20 years, Beasley would have been in prison today. Instead, he was released in May 2012.

Back on the streets, Beasley quickly returned to his old ways, carrying a gun despite the legal prohibition placed on felons. And soon, his gun came into play in a dispute with Allen. The day before Allen was killed, the pair strugg
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Nashville......democrat control since before 1938..

Report: Tennessee gun violence is getting worse

Tennessee has a serious gun violence problem that continues to get worse, according to a new report released Monday.

Safe Tennessee Project calls gun violence a "public health crisis" and says an average of 3.4 Tennesseans are killed with guns every day.

"Last year, 1,246 Tennesseans were shot and killed – the highest number on record,” reads the report. It goes on to say "the rate of gun death in Tennessee is significantly higher than the U.S. average."

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

and yet those guns aren't used in gun crime...of any kind.......

Again, you tried fooling people using "military weapons." When you were shown that the Pump action shotgun and bolt action rifle are actual military weapons but the AR-15 is not......you changed your argument....

This is what you don't understand.....

There is only one mass public shooting where the rifle had an advantage in the shooting, and that was Las Vegas, where the range was over 200 yards......but he was also firing into a tightly packed crowd of over 22,000 people, at night, from a concealed and fortified position.......with his initial shooting masked by the concert.



And if the crowed wasn't trapped in that concert arena, he wouldn't have been able to kill as many since they would have run away or found cover.....since shooting at moving targets at hundreds of yards is almost impossible for all but expertly trained shooters...



At the range of every other mass public shooting a rifle has no advantage over pistols or shotguns.......



again.....at the range of a mass public shooting the AR-15 is no better than a pump action shotgun....as are 2 handguns......you idiot...



Boulder....used an AR-15 with magazines that held more than 10 bullets.. 10 killed.....



Virginia Tech...2 pistols, one with 10 round magazine..... 32 killed.



Do you see that the AR-15 killed fewer people than the 2 pistols?



Boulder...10 killed with an AR-15 rifle and regular magazines ( holding more than 10 bullets)



Luby's Cafe..... 2 pistols....24 killed.



Do you see that the 2 pistols killed more than the AR-15?



Do you know what the difference was between these attacks?



The cops immediately responded and shot at the attacker in boulder, causing him to stop shooting unarmed victims, and then he shot himself....



Virginia Tech and Luby's Cafe, the police didn't get there, and at Luby's Cafe, the one woman who could have shot and killed the attacker had to leave her gun in her car because of stupid gun free zone laws....



Boulder AR-15 with magazines that hold more than 10 bullets...you know, regular magazines..... 10 killed...



Kerch, Russia, Polytechnic school shooting.... 5 shot, pump action shotgun...which means it had 5 shells which is 5 less than 10........20 killed 70 wounded.



Do you see that the AR-15 killed fewer people than the 5 shot, pump action shotgun?



The difference? The Russian police station was 100 yards away from the school...and it still took them 10 minutes to get to the school...and he managed to kill 20 people with a 5 shot, pump action shotgun....10 more than the Boulder shooter with a rifle and a regular sized magazine...





So again.......in a mass public shooting the number of bullets in the gun magazine don't mean anything......the gun doesn't make the difference....



What makes the difference?



1) if the target is a gun free zone, more people get killed.



2) if someone starts shooting at the attacker, they commit suicide, or surrender, or runaway....



That is what you don't understand and don't care to understand since you simply have a mental issue when it comes to the AR-15 rifle.

That rifle had no special advantage in a mass public shooting.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Here....

Baltimore Democrats don't want Larry Hogan to rein in gun violence

Citing their opposition to mandatory minimum sentences, Democrats in the Maryland General Assembly say they are unlikely to pass Gov. Larry Hogan’s top priority this session ― the Violent Firearms Offender Act ― infuriating the governor who alleges lawmakers aren’t taking shootings in Baltimore seriously.

In an interview with The Baltimore Sun on Wednesday, Hogan argued that lawmakers who don’t support his legislation are out of touch with the views of most Marylanders and should step down from their leadership posts. On a table in his office at the State House, he spread out his internal polling results that show residents overwhelmingly want “tougher sentences for violent offenders who commit crimes with guns.”

Democrats in the Assembly are saying that bill won’t even make it out of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, so there won’t be a chance of a full floor vote or debate. Their objections are based on the removal of judicial discretion for a number of gun crimes in favor of mandatory minimum sentences. But judicial discretion is a large part of the reason the city is dealing with a murder rate that’s worse than you would find in some war zones.

The Democrats are also arguing that the city of Baltimore already passed tougher gun laws two years ago, but they’ve done nothing to stem the violence.

That’s a disingenuous argument, however, because the new law only applied in certain parts of the city and provided only one year in jail for illegal possession of a firearm. That was an improvement over the previous average of six months (!) but it’s still a laughably short stretch for most of the hardened gang members.

The same Democrats are arguing that what Baltimore really needs is better enforcement of existing laws. They note that police only made 20,000 arrests in 2019 compared to an annual average of 100,000 when Martin O’Malley was the mayor. Also, the homicide clearance rate has fallen to just 32%. But why not do both?

The Baltimore PD released data showing that the average homicide suspect arrested in Baltimore has eight previous arrests.

They don’t have the resources to closely monitor all of the violent criminals who are out on parole, so the same shooters wind up being arrested over and over again.

They believe that fewer than 100 gang members are responsible for the lion’s share of the murders in the city, but they can’t keep them off the streets.

Virginia

VA Dems Make It Clear: It's About Guns, Not Crime

Virginia Democrats on Thursday evening killed a bill that would have done more to reduce violent crime in the state’s hardest hit cities than any of Gov. Ralph Northam’s proposals, making it clear that their agenda isn’t about saving lives, but restricting rights.

HB1617, authored by Republican Del. Jason Miyares, a former prosecutor, would have provided grant money to cities in order to implement two programs; Project Ceasefire and Project Exile.


The two programs work in conjunction with each other, both targeting the cities most violent and prolific offenders. Those individuals are given a choice. They can stop shooting, in which case they can work with the Ceasefire folks to help put their life on the right path, whether it’s through a GED program, job training, an apprenticeship, and the like. Or, if they keep shooting, they’ll be dealing with the men and women in Project Exile, and their cases are going to be referred to federal court where they’ll be facing long prison sentences without the possibility of early release.

“You’re going to stop shooting. We’ll help you if you let us, but we’ll make you if we have to.” That’s the message and the strategy behind these programs and it works, as has been detailed by researchers like David Kennedy, who has helped implement the strategy in many cities over the past twenty years. It works because it targets the people who are actually committing violent crimes. In many cases, these most likely to offend are also the most likely to be victimized. They’re responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime and tragedy in the communities they live and prey upon. But many of them are not beyond redemption, and lives have not only been saved but changed by these efforts.

This is the bill that Democrats killed, while passing bills to ration handgun purchases, limit firearms training, establish red flag laws, and even allow localities to pass their own gun control laws. They want cities across the state to be able to put useless, ineffective, and unconstitutional laws on the books, while preventing them from putting proven and effective programs in place that don’t require any new legislation beyond establishing a funding mechanism.

This is shameful. I’m not being hyperbolic when I say that I believe this bill, had it been enacted into law, would have saved more lives than all of Gov. Northam’s gun bills put together, and Democrats killed it in committee. This is not common sense. In fact, it makes no sense, given the fact that the Project Ceasefire model has support from a lot of liberal politicians.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party affordable bail....

Court records reveal even more men charged with murder, shootings while free on "affordable bail"

It’s been two months since Cook County Chief Judge Timothy Evans said, “it’s not by magic that we haven’t had any horrible incidents occur using this new [affordable bail] system,” during budget hearings on Nov. 4.

Since then, we’ve told you about seven different people who are currently facing murder charges for crimes that they allegedly committed while free on “affordable bail” awaiting trial for charges such as Class X felony armed violence, unlawful use of a weapon, and repeated use of a weapon by a felon.

It’s hard to fathom how Evans would conclude that those murders and shootings committed by persons on affordable bail weren’t “horrible incidents.”

Since November, our team has come across new cases in which men have been charged with killing or shooting people while on affordable bail awaiting trial for serious crimes. Here’s a look at these new “not horrible” situations:

Last February, prosecutors charged 19-year-old Armando Lopez with felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, felony possession of a controlled substance, and driving on a revoked license after Chicago police allegedly found a rifle in his vehicle on the 2700 block of South Kedzie. Judge David Navarro allowed Lopez to go home after posting a $500 bond.

While he was out, Lopez got another gun which he used to shoot and killed 32-year-old nurse Frank Aguilar whom he mistook for a rival gang member on Nov. 13, according to allegations in court records.

Lopez is now being held without bail.

In April 2019, prosecutors charged 24-year-old Josue Becerra with having a loaded 45-caliber handgun in his vehicle in Albany Park. Judge David Navarro released him for $200.

Then, on July 23, police were flagged down by a man who told them that three men in a red Jeep pointed a gun at him near the 4900 block of North Milwaukee. A few minutes later, officers tried to pull Becerra over as he drove a red Jeep nearby. Police say he sped away, drove in the wrong lane, and cruised onto the Kennedy Expressway before they caught up with him. He was charged with fleeing and eluding, possession of ecstasy, and multiple traffic violations.

Even though he was still on bail for the April gun violation, Judge Charles Beach let him go home by posting another $500 bond.

Finally, on Jan. 21, a couple of Chicago cops said they were doing undercover surveillance when they heard gunfire and saw Becerra run past their covert car with a gun in his hand.

Police tried to stop him, but Becerra got into a car that sped away and eventually crashed in North Center. He and the driver were immediately arrested

Horribly, the shots left a 43-year-old man in critical condition. Prosecutors charged Becerra with attempted murder, aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, aggravated battery of a police officer, and aggravated assault of a police officer. This time, he was ordered held without bail.
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[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party affordable bail post #2....

NY Major Crime Soars. Police Blame Bail Reform.

According to the NYPD, compared to February 2019, major crimes grew 22.5%; in addition, the city suffered a 7.1% increase in shootings. The city also saw a rise in robbery, assault, burglary, grand larceny, and grand larceny, according to Fox News.

The NYPD revealed that New York prosecutors declined to prosecute 803 crimes in January and February; last year that figure was 527 cases.
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Horowitz: NY crime skyrockets, shootings up 60%, following prison reduction agenda

No ordinary citizen can legally carry a gun in New York City, yet shootings are up 59.6 percent over this time last year.

On Sunday, a pregnant woman was shot while sitting in her own car in front of her home in Queens. This is becoming the new normal in New York after the memo has gone out to criminals in the city that politicians fear growing the prison population more than they fear crime.

According to NYPD crime data, in addition to the 59.6 percent spike in shootings over this time last year, robberies increased 32.8 percent and grand larceny auto crimes were up a whopping 62.8 percent. Burglaries rose by 17 percent. This is just for the first 26 days of 2020.

What gives? According to NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea, it’s no mystery.

It’s all about New York’s law abolishing bail. “If you let out individuals that commit a lot of crime, that’s precision policing in reverse and we’re seeing the effects in a very quick time,” Shea said at a press conference last Friday. He decried the undeniable “correlation” between the rise in crime and the jail and prison “populations dropping significantly.”

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party cities....

Another Reason (If You Needed One) to Carry a Gun: Bail 'Reform' - The Truth About Guns

In most of the nation, setting bail not only helps ensure criminals make their court dates, but also serves as a deterrent to more criminal activity. After all, one can’t victimize innocent, law-abiding Americans when you’re in jail. And being re-arrested while you’re waiting for trial might just forfeit your bond.

New York State, however, has a new “no cash bail” law that took effect January 1 (because posting bail is racist or classist or something). The results have not been pretty.


Stories about of serial bad guys repeatedly walking out of jail without posting a thin dime for bail. Only to commit more crimes. From the New York Post:

Robbery is up almost 30% in New York City since the first of the year. Is this a statistical blip, a trend — or a New Year’s bail-reform gift from Albany, robbery now largely being a revolving-door offense in the Empire State?

Time will tell, but consider this as well: According to the latest NYPD stats, the number of shooting victims in the city is up 31% since New Year’s Day — so at the very least Gotham appears to be off to a rocky 2020 compared to last year.

Seattle...

Dori: Durkan's failures, political correctness caused downtown Seattle shooting

People right away criticized me for blaming gangs when we did not know for sure who was responsible. Of course we knew it was gangs. I’m sick and tired of a squishy media that won’t speak the truth because it is so consumed with political correctness. Everybody knew exactly what happened last night.

We do not let the cops do their jobs. The cops know who the gang members and drug dealers are. They also know that if they see a drug transaction and write it up for the prosecutor’s office, it’s going to get kicked because it’s not a serious enough crime. And when prosecutors pursue criminals, judges let them walk free.


The two suspects in this downtown shooting have been arrested 44 times with 20 convictions and 21 times with 15 convictions. Marquise Tolbert, the one with 20 convictions, had three felonies last year alone.


You tell me how someone with three felonies in 2019 is walking around free and able to engage in a shootout that kills a woman and injures a bunch of other people, including a 9-year-old kid. Both Tolbert and William Tolliver, the other suspect, are just 24 years old.


They both have previously been arrested and charged with drive-by shootings and unlawful possession of a firearm in 2018. So the courts knew full well that these were gun-toting gang members. Why did our justice system let them walk free? Why do we place criminals above law-abiding citizens?


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Carmen Best repeated the lie they’ve been trying to feed all of us, that Seattle is a safe city. Seattle is heading toward the other leftist cities plagued with gun violence — Baltimore, Chicago, L.A. There is a common theme between the cities that have gun violence, and that is the parties that are in charge. Best said we would “stop these shootings far upstream.” No, we’re not going to. Your system had these guys, with multiple felony convictions, including gun felonies; you let them go.

Virginia...


Virginia Dems Kill Bill That Targeted Criminals Who Use Guns

While Virginia Democrats are merrily approving gun control laws aimed at the state’s legal gun owners, they apparently aren’t interested in focusing on violent criminals who use firearms in the commission of a crime.

HB 1175 would have increased the penalty for using or brandishing a firearm while committing certain felonies, which seems like a pretty common sense bill to me. Instead, members of the House Public Safety Committee rejected the measure on Tuesday, while approving a number of gun bills that are meant to restrict the rights of legal gun owners in the name of public safety.
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So they’re okay with making it a felony to continue to possess your 15-round magazine or to transfer a firearm without a background check, but the status quo is fine when it comes to punishing those who use guns in the commission of a crime.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party Delaware edition....

In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped
Exclusive: As violence rises, prosecutors bargain away gun charges

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

More democrat party cities, more democrat party creating gun crime by releasing violent gun criminals...

Balitmore....


Arrests in Baltimore for illegal guns often lead to dropped charges or little jail time

Minnesota...


Police have arrested this felon four times in the last four months. Each time, he’s been carrying guns, charges say. – Twin Cities

State law prohibits Lincoln from possessing a firearm since he was convicted of felony level domestic assault in 2011, court records say.
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He has two other unlawful gun-possession cases pending against him in Ramsey County from earlier this fall.

In the first, officers pulled him over Sept. 13 after noting that his vehicle’s windows were illegally tinted and found multiple bags of marijuana, as well as two loaded handguns, inside, charges say.

He was picked up again Oct. 7 on a warrant from the previous incident after officers found him working on his vehicle at a White Bear Lake address.

While searching him, police discovered a small bag of methamphetamine in his pocket and a handgun on his waist, court documents say. A loaded handgun also was reportedly found in his vehicle.


New York....
New York’s Thickening Cloud of Violent Crime
But judging by the state’s evolving criminal-justice landscape, empowering criminals seems like the goal.

New York State is preparing to roll out sweeping criminal-justice reforms that will prevent police and the courts from detaining people arrested and charged with serious offenses. The new rules on bail remove judicial discretion from a remarkably wide array of charges. No one charged with a misdemeanor, for example, can be held on bail, regardless of his criminal history, gang affiliation, or evident disposition for committing more crimes. Misdemeanors in New York include assault in the third degree, causing “physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument,” and reckless endangerment in the first degree, when, “evincing a depraved indifference to human life,” someone “recklessly engages in conductwhich creates a grave risk of death to another person.”
-------------In advance of January 1, when the new reforms officially come into effect, judges and prosecutors statewide have begun easing into the new regime by proactively letting remanded prisoners out of jail and by releasing newly arrested serious criminals on their own recognizance.For instance, on Friday, Tiffany Harris of Brooklyn slapped three Jewish women in the face, yelling anti-Semitic imprecations. She was arraigned on Saturday and released without bail; she was arrested for assaulting someone else on Sunday. On Saturday, Steven Haynes, a Brooklyn man lying on the sidewalk, attacked and pummeled a police officer who asked him to get up. Charged with a series of crimes, Haynes was released by a judge and was back on the street within a few hours. In Rockland County—where the Hanukkah machete attack occurred—Jorge Flores-Villalba, an unlicensed driver, killed a pedestrian on Christmas Eve and fled the scene. He was released without bail on Christmas Day.


Chief judge says there have been no "horrible incidents" under his affordable bail program. These people might disagree, if they only they were still alive.

Two years into an “affordable bail” initiative that is allowing most accused gun offenders and even accused murderers to be released from jail to await trial, Cook County’s chief judge says the program is working fabulously.
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There are likely many people who would disagree with Evans’ definition of “horrible incidents” — if they were still alive to do so.

• On Feb. 9, Daryl Williams violated the terms of a court-ordered curfew, secured an illegal handgun, and then fatally shot 45-year-old Daniel Smith in the back of the head, prosecutors allege.

Three months earlier, Judge Stephanie Miller released Williams on a recognizance bond after he was charged with illegally possessing a stolen handgun near a “shots fired” incident on the South Side.

“That was me,” Williams allegedly told police. “I let off two rounds to see if [the gun] worked.”

Williams is now being held without bail as he awaits trial for murder.

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• In August, someone fatally shot 34-year-old Neal Sumrell as he sat in his car in Humboldt Park. Someone also shot a woman who was in Sumrell’s vehicle as she tried to run away.

Prosecutors say they know who at least one of the shooters was: Antwane Lashley.

The 18-year-old who was free on a recognizance bond and electronic monitoring at the time of the shootings after cops said they caught him with an illegal handgun on the West Side in May.

Lashley was on juvenile probation for aggravated battery, causing great bodily harm at the time of his gun arrest, according to court records. He is now being held without bail as he awaits trial for murder.

• In May, prosecutors say, 30-year-old Antawan Smith murdered 15-year-old Jaylin Ellzey in a drive-by shooting. When police arrested Smith during a traffic stop two weeks later, officers reported finding a loaded handgun in his car.

At the time of the murder, Smith was free on bail while awaiting trial for Class X felony armed violence with a weapon; felony manufacture-delivery of cocaine; felony repeated unlawful use of a weapon by a felon, and felony aggravated fleeing. Smith was on parole for illegal possession of a handgun when cops arrested him on those charges in September. His bond amount? $6,000.

He’s now held without bail as he awaits trial for Ellzey’s murder and the earlier charges.

• In May 2018, a judge released 18-year-old Randy Wilson to await trial after prosecutors charged him with criminal trespass to a vehicle. But things escalated when Chicago police allegedly found him carrying a handgun illegally one month later. But, another judge released him to await trial again.

Three weeks later, a 50-year-old man told police that Wilson and three other men robbed him and two teenagers on the South Side. Police arrested Wilson and wrote in a report that he was wearing an electronic monitoring bracelet when they found him. Prosecutors charged him with two counts of attempted robbery with a firearm.

He paid a $2,500 deposit bond to get out of jail. And, of course, the judge ordered him to be on electronic monitoring which didn’t help much before.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

More democrat party cities with their stupid, pro-crime policies.....that increase gun crime...

Gunday: A look at how the courts are handling some recent weapons charges in Chicago

Near North incident
You may remember our Oct. 30 report about a Near North woman who called police because a man fired a shot through her door after she kicked him out of her apartment on the 700 block of North Dearborn.The woman called police again early on Nov. 2 after she and her brother saw the alleged offender in the first block of West Huron.Officers arrived and arrested 35-year-old Christopher Stanley after confirming that the victim identified him by name in her police report, according to court records. During a search, police allegedly found a handgun in Stanley’s possession.Prosecutors charged Stanley with being a felon in possession of a firearm but not with the alleged shooting. Judge John Lyke set bail at $5,000 and Stanley went free by posting a $500 deposit bond.In May 2002, prosecutors dropped four counts of attempted murder and four other felonies in a plea deal with Stanley. In exchange for pleading guilty to aggravated discharge of a firearm, Stanley received a sentence of eight years, court records show.


Then you have this.....a gun charge while on parole for an illegal gun charge....

Gun charge while on parole for a gun charge

A man who escaped an armed habitual criminal charge in a plea deal with prosecutors two years ago is now charged with being an armed habitual criminal again after police say they found him with a gun in Old Town.

Chervon Jackson, 31, was paroled in January after serving half of a four-year sentence that he received for unlawful possession of a firearm by a felon in 2017.

Then, on Nov. 3, police pulled over a car on the 1200 block of North Sedgwick because its plates were expired. Officers asked all of the vehicle’s occupants to step out of the car after the driver allegedly admitted that a drink container in the center console contained Hennessey cognac.

Seated in the passenger seat, Jackson made “furtive movements” and did not immediately step out of the car, police said. Once he was outside, police allegedly found a .45-caliber in his waistband.

Prosecutors charged him with Class X felony armed habitual criminal, felony unlawful use of a weapon, and misdemeanor obstruction of identification. In addition to the 2017 gun case, police say Jackson was also convicted of unlawful use of a weapon and burglary in 2004.

Judge Charles Beach ordered Jackson held without bail and the Illinois Department of Corrections issued a warrant for a parole violation, according to court records.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ood_luck_getting_a_cop_when_you_want_one.html

Boudin spoke at his election celebration in supposedly conciliatory terms, but if you look closely, he wasn't conciliatory, and his remarks were very anti-police.

Here's the San Francisco Chronicle report:

When Chesa Boudin is sworn in as San Francisco's new district attorney, he said, he will immediately get to work reforming the city's criminal justice system. Some goals, like ending mass incarceration, will take time. But others, like doing away with gang enhancements and ending money bail, will begin on day one, he said.

Ending mass incarceration on the logic that there are a lot of them in the can puts a lot of thugs out on the streets to prey on the locals. In Chavista Venezuela, that was useful for keeping the street protests down, of course. Boudin uses the more Sorosian argument that the only reason these criminals are in the can is racism, not anything they might have done.

He also says he's going to end "gang enhancements," which means extra charges for doing things gang leaders want their gangster peons to do, such as pick off an innocent bystander to prove bona fides. No wonder the Police Officer's Union called a Chesa D.A.-ship a gangster's delight. That certainly ends penalties for thugs for "only obeying orders," as the Nazis at Nuremberg put it. Gang enhancements, said young Chesa, "are explicitly racist."

His other "transform" initiative is to end money bail for assorted acts of thuggery. Ending money bail will make it even more profitable to commit crimes — and already every thief in San Fran gets a "free" $950 to steal from merchants as it is, given that no one gets busted for anything less. Now there's no need for cash bail for even those who take more.

Here's another sleazy set of false conciliations from the stepson of "Guilty as Hell, Free as a Bird." Commenting on the opposition of the San Francisco Police Officers Association, Boudin made the appearance of sounding nice:

Brockton man arrested a third time in 15 months on gun charges

For the third time in 15 months, a Brockton man with gang ties is facing gun charges after being arrested for leading officers on a car chase in the city Friday afternoon, police said.

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For Patrick Brandao, Friday’s arrest was one of three times he has been charged with gun crimes since October 2014.

On April 15 last year, 18 Brockton police officers responded to a car chase that led to the arrest of Brandao and another man.

Police observed a vehicle, with Brandao inside, on Winthrop Street that appeared to be circling around the neighborhood.

After a motor vehicle infraction, officers attempted pull the vehicle over and they took off.

About a mile away on Linnea Avenue, Brandao and the other man jumped out of the car and fled on foot. The car continued down the road for another 100 feet and struck a fire hydrant, police said.

The two were arrested and a .40 caliber Smith & Wesson handgun was seized.

In Stoughton on Oct. 17, 2014, Brandao was arrested during a raid by the State Police Gang Unit.

Officers executed a search warrant at 97 Pratts Court and found a .40 caliber Glock and 9mm Ruger. Both guns were loaded and equipped with high-capacity magazines. Also seized was 10 grams of heroin and $4,500 cash.

In addition, at age 18, in 2011, Brandao was arrested by the Brockton Police Gang Unit after a traffic stop for speeding that led to detectives finding a .22 caliber handgun under a seat in the vehicle, police said.
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[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

D.C. and California...

Since California Won't Put Those Convicted of Gun Crimes Away Long Enough, The Federal Government Is Doing it For Them - The Truth About Guns

But as happened in Selma, local police in California have increasingly been turning to federal authorities for help prosecuting gun crimes. The reason? [Criminals like William Carl] Adkins and people like him face far more time behind federal bars than they would if they were prosecuted under state law.

California’s tough gun laws aren’t tough enough, it turns out — and guess who’s stepping in

The program under which his case is being handled, Project Safe Neighborhoods, got its start in 2001 under President George W. Bush. It fell out of favor during the Obama administration, but the Justice Department under then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions reinstated it.


The idea is to seek out suspects considered to be especially dangerous and maximize their prison time by prosecuting them through the federal system.

Under California law, felons caught in possession of a firearm could face up to three years in prison. That sentence could be reduced by half for good behavior. Some felons caught with guns end up doing time in county jails

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Under federal law, however, they face 10 years in prison, and must serve at least 85% of that sentence. Since 2018, 175 individuals have been indicted on federal charges of being a felon in possession of a firearm in the Eastern District, and 161 have been sentenced to prison.
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DC Poised to Triple Down on Early Release of Violent Criminals

One defendant killed an innocent 7-year-old child. Another shot a 24-year-old mother in the back. Others kidnapped a woman, held her in the back of a stolen van, and repeatedly gang-raped her.

These and about 583 other violent offenders—including murderers, rapists, and child molesters—could soon be let out of prison if Charles Allen, a D.C. Council member, has his way.

Allen recently proposed the Second Look Amendment Act of 2019, which would allow violent felons to get out of prison early—even if they haven’t had a parole hearing—and would prevent the judge from considering the nature of the crime(s) they committed.
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The 2016 Act

In 2016, the D.C. City Council, at Allen’s urging, passed a law to reform the criminal justice system for young offenders. The Comprehensive Youth Justice Amendment Act of 2016 substantially revised how D.C. law handles youthful offenders charged in adult court. Section 301 of the law is called the Incarceration Reduction Amendment Act of 2016.

This act, which went into effect on April 4, 2017, gave 16- and 17-year-old offenders who were convicted in the Superior Court (D.C.’s adult criminal court) an opportunity to get out of prison early.

To be clear, the law does not apply to all 16- and 17-year-old offenders, but only those convicted in Superior Court (D.C.’s adult criminal court). That’s an important distinction, because youths charged in Superior Court are those who are tried as adults because they have committed particularly heinous crimes—murder, rape, child molestation, and the like. The rest stay in juvenile court.
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In a recent article criticizing the newly proposed law, former Assistant U.S. Attorney Glenn Kirschner, who led the homicide division in the U.S. Attorney’s Office, shared the story of David Bailey, who had killed three people (two by shooting, one by stabbing) in two separate incidents by the time he was 17.
A judge released Bailey early under the 2016 law despite disciplinary infractions committed in prison (one of the factors the law required the judge to consider), a history of violence, and opposition from the victims’ families.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Why don't democrats want red flag laws to target actual gang members? You know, the ones doing almost all of the shooting in democrat party controlled cities?

Dems Veto Red Flag Law for Gangbangers
Democrats frown on targeting gang databases with 'red flag' laws

then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess? Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

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consider that on last Tuesday two separate trials began in Chicago for known Chicago gang members Dwight Doty and Corey Morgan for the murder of nine-year-old Tyshawn Lee. As Fox News reported:
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No red flags for these guys. Gang members with .40 caliber handguns? No problem or you might be mistaken about the two being gang members, says Nadler. Go grab the AR-15 from the home of a law-abiding citizen fearful that someday this gang trash will gun down his child or other family member. Scratching your nose in public could be the wrong gang sign, a crime punishable by death in Chicago. And Democrats say it’s Republicans who don’t care about the lives of children?
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“From Mexico to Chicago, they make $3.5 billion dollars a year. And the majority of violence in Chicago, comes from the Mexican cartels.”

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.
“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”
Democrats objected with reasons that sounded very familiar to Republicans.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party state of Delaware...dropping gun charges on repeat offenders...

In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped

From 2012 to 2014, more than 11,700 felony weapon charges were filed in Delaware, and in most cases, the weapon was a gun. Yet, 71 percent of those charges disappeared before trials began.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Chicago...how they handle gun offenders.....democrat party control since 1931

Top cop laments violence as 66 shot, 5 fatally, over long Fourth of July weekend


Between last Wednesday and Friday, 42 people were charged with felony gun-related offenses, he said, but only 15 remain in custody.



That lack of accountability for gun offenders has damaged the Police Department’s relationship with the communities most beset by violence, Johnson said, making victims of crimes less likely to cooperate with officers.
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“It’s not about mass incarceration. It’s not about having quotas. But when somebody has a demonstrated track record of being a violent gun offender, that should say something to the judges who are making decisions about bail. They shouldn’t be out on the street,” Lightfoot said. “We can’t keep our communities safe if people just keep cycling through the system because what that says to them is, I can do whatever I want, I can carry whatever I want, I can shoot up a crowd and I’m going to be back on the street. How does that make sense? It doesn’t.”
Criminal Justice Reform Comes Home to Roost
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CWB Chicago: You Be The Judge: We give you the case details. You try to guess their bail amount.

McKay was sentenced to four years for robbery in 2008; two years for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon (firearm) in 2010; seven years for being a felon in possession of a weapon (firearm) in 2012; and three years for possession of fentanyl in 2016.
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For McKay, who has two gun convictions and a robbery conviction, Willis set bail at….$5,000. McKay will need to put down a 10% deposit of $500 to go free. Willis also ordered him to go on electronic monitoring if he is released.

Some details that Willis did not know:
• McKay’s 2008 robbery conviction involved an armed carjacking. Prosecutors reduced the charge to “ordinary” robbery as part of a plea deal.• In 2012, McKay’s second gun case also included allegations that he fired the weapon. Prosecutors dropped the weapon discharge count and seven other weapons charges in a plea deal.• The 2016 drug possession charge started as allegations of manufacture-delivery of fentanyl, but, again, prosecutors pleaded that down to possession.

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[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Chicago....democrat party control since 1931, releasing violent, repeat gun offenders...

Officials Address 'Vicious Cycle' Of I-Bond Violations After Violent Weekend

Many of the gun offenders arrested by Chicago police over the weekend walked out of jail on bond, without having to pay a dime.

As of Monday morning, 19 people had been arrested on gun-related charges. By Monday afternoon, 11 were back on the street, some with prior gun offenses.
“We know who a lot of these people are,” Chicago Police Supt. Eddie Johnson said. “And how do we know that? Because we keep arresting them over and over and over and over and over again. And it’s just a vicious cycle.”

In a tweet Sunday night, a Chicago police spokesperson criticized the practice of letting gun offenders out on Individual Recognizance Bonds or “I-Bonds.”
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The tweet said, in part, “Letting gun offenders out on I-Bonds shows there is absolutely no repercussion for carrying illegal guns In Chicago.”
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In a statement, an office representative said since the beginning of this year, 72% of gun related cases received monetary bail or no bond.
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[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Chicago.....14 year old shoots at two people.....democrat judge let's him go...

Cook County, IL: 14-Year-Old Charged With Shooting Two, Freed Without Supervision - The Truth About Guns

Welcome to Cook County, Illinois, where crime often has no meaningful consequences. Between a State’s Attorney’s Office reluctant to file charges and judges who mollycoddles defendants, Chicagoland has become the modern Wild West.

Case in point: a 14-year-old who (reportedly) shot and tried to kill two in a nice uptown neighborhood was released by a judge Friday to his parent with no bond – not even electronic home monitoring.


The Cook County judge claims the police failed to bring this suspected would-be gang killer (pictured above, right) in front of a judge quickly enough. So the judge, in order to penalize the police, released the kid without conditions other than to report to court next week.

Of course, the judge is really only penalizing the community as the accused certainly missed his calling as a choir boy.

The police, on the other hand, said they had concerns about the young man’s safety. Police released images of the suspects to the media in an effort to identify them and the media published them.

The Chicago mainstream media refer to the accused as a “boy.” Even though this “boy”reportedly shot one man in the back, abdomen, buttocks and groin and the other in the head.
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[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrat party ally, the ACLU....helping violent criminals go free....

Study: Chicago homicides spiked due to ACLU police decree

Cassell and Fowles have studied the spike of homicides in Chicago in 2016. Through multiple regression analysis and other tools, they conclude that an ACLU consent decree triggered a sharp reduction in stop and frisks by the Chicago Police Department, which in turn caused homicides to spike. In other words, what Chicago police officers call the“ACLU effect” is real. That effect was more homicides and shootings.

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Detailed regression analysis of the homicide (and related shooting) data strongly supports what visual observation suggests. Using monthly data from 2012 through 2016, we are able to control for such factors as temperature, homicides in other parts of Illinois, 9-1-1 calls (as a measure of police-citizen cooperation), and arrests for various types of crimes.

Even controlling for these factors, our equations indicate that the steep decline in stop and frisks was strongly linked, at high levels of statistical significance, to the sharp increase in homicides (and other shooting crimes) in 2016.

Cassell and Fowles then searched for other possible factors that might be responsible for the Chicago homicide spike. None fit the data as well as the decline in stop and frisks.

Cassell and Fowles quantified the costs of the decline in stop and frisks in human and financial terms.


They found that, because of fewer stop and frisks in 2016, a conservative estimate is that approximately 236 additional homicides and 1115 additional shootings occurred during that year.


A reasonable estimate of the social costs associated with these additional homicides and shootings is about $1,500,000,000. And these costs are heavily concentrated in Chicago’s African-American and Hispanic communities.

 

[2aguy]

What is wrong with you? Nobody in the US needs an AR-15 or anything similar. You can't hunt with them.

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is. Gun nut-ery has gone way too far in this country. If you guys need these weapons to recover your masculinity, you probably never had any in the first place.

Yes...people hunt with them, you doofus......and you don't get to decide which guns are covered.......if the U.S. military has a rifle, then the citizens need to have that rifle as well....since we are a free people, not serfs.

Hunting is a hobby. There is no reason for us to endure the danger that we face from military weaponry just for some fool's hobby. You can hunt with guns that.don't spray bullets all over the place.

The argument that private citizens have to have the same firepower as the U.S. Military is an ignorant absurdity. You morons seem to be afraid of your own government.

It's ironic that many of you are arguing, at the same time, that the military should not examine whether there are extremists in the ranks.

What military weaponry? Bazookas......tanks?

You mean pump action shotguns? They are actual military weapons.

Bolt action rifles? They are actual military weapons.

The AR-15? Is not a military weapon, never has been.....

The Right of people to have the same rifles and pistols as the military makes absolute sense, especially in the light of actual history where the governments of Europe, Russia, Asia, South America and Africa, have used their militaries to commit mass murder against their own people...

How you can not see the value in having the same rifles and pistols as the military is just amazing.......every region I pointed out has conducted mass murder against their own people...using the military.....

I am talking about weaponry that sprays bullets at a high rate per minute, and you know it.

I hope that you are pleased that our military is looking to identify extremists in its ranks so that your doomsday scenario does not occur.

I think of the incredible restraint shown by the Capitol Police and their reinforcements when they were defending the U.S.Government and our Constitution on Jan. 6. They didn't open up on the mob with such weapons as you want to have personally. Only one of these traitors died by gun that day, when there could have been a bloodbath. And look at the thanks they got from some of the people whose lives they defended.

BTW: You keep blaming the Democratic Party, but you don't identify any policies to which you object, and there is no way that you can identify which party a judge supports, if any.

Democrats lowering penalties for violent gun offenders while the NRA tries to stop them...

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Moved this to breaking news...

The thread premise is a lie.

The press continues to cover and update this mass shooting.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Tell me what the purpose of nonsense like this thread is

The purpose of the thread is to advance the lie and conspiracy theory that ‘the media’ are engaged in a concerted effort to have a ‘new’ AWB enacted.