Sanders lead Trump by 21% in new CNN poll

[Statistikhengst]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

Put up the methodology for the poll. All I can find is that they interviewed 898 registered voters.

That's not good enough. I want to know how many interviewed were D's, R's and Indy's.

Otherwise the poll means nothing.

898 RV

230 RV self identified as Republican (25.61%)
254 RV self identified as Democrats (28.28%)
414 RV self identified as Independents (46.10%)

However, for the GOP primary, 189 of the 414 Independents also identified themselves as R-leaning and gave input on the R-nomination stuff.

And for the DEM primary, 138 of the 414 Independents also identified themselves as D-leaning and gave input on the D-nomination stuff.

the remaining 87 independents gave no leaning tendencies and therefore did not give input for either the D or R primary stuff.

If we add the leaners to the Ds and Rs, then:

230 RV self identified as Republican, +189 leaners =419 (46.65%)
254 RV self identified as Democrats + 138 leaners = 392 (43.65%)
87 RV only as Independents without leaners either way (9.70%)

In no way are Democratic RVs overrepresented, to be sure.

And for Clinton and Sanders to be doing this well against three GOP candidates, with this kind of voter SELF identification, can only mean that both Clinton and Sanders are also getting more of the Republican vote than a D usually gets.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Hell yes its been good...the Black dude took the economy from losing 800,000 jobs a month when he became President to a long streak of 200,000 plus job gains a month ; he expanded access to health care; he saved the US auto Industry; taxes are the lowest in generations; stock market has nearly tripled on his watch...and more ...not too shabby.....

 

[Statistikhengst]

Yes, I have already read the entire poll.

What's the methodology Stats? I can't get it to load past page 3.

Please see posting no. 41.

The methodology is kosher. It shows a HUGE amount of self-identified Independents, which is entirely possible.

I am a real believer in accepting the self - identification of voters, provided that the poll is geographically representative.

And as I wrote, CNN/ORC has a good, solid reputation and a good track record, mathematically provable.

BTW, I spent a goodly amount of time on posting 41, just for you.

 

[amrchaos]

clinton leads sanders 56% to 19%

now i know hillary is fading but really dude?

Who knows? Bernie may pull out an Afro wig and has secret connections to the Weathermen!!

Add in an electrifying speech and its 2007 all over again....He has inherited the socialist/far left card that Obama used.

 

[Statistikhengst]

tinydancer

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Gern geschehen!

 

[PredFan]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Lol, apparently YOU aren't much brighter!

Oh man, the comedy writes itself!

 

[Statistikhengst]

I don't have time to do all the Sanders vs. GOP internals right now, but I did go a work up on some of the Clinton vs. GOP internals, here:

CNN ORC Trump now leading Republicans nationally nomination race Page 7 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Pretty telling stuff.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Lol, apparently YOU aren't much brighter!

Oh man, the comedy writes itself!

Wait a minute. We are talking about cold, hard data and all you can do is to insult and get personal?

Is that the best you have to offer?

Can you refute the data?

 

[tinydancer]

Yes, I have already read the entire poll.

What's the methodology Stats? I can't get it to load past page 3.

Please see posting no. 41.

The methodology is kosher. It shows a HUGE amount of self-identified Independents, which is entirely possible.

I am a real believer in accepting the self - identification of voters, provided that the poll is geographically representative.

And as I wrote, CNN/ORC has a good, solid reputation and a good track record, mathematically provable.

BTW, I spent a goodly amount of time on posting 41, just for you.

And thank you kindly! Appreciated. Sorry for the delay. Just got back in from the garden.

 

[Preacher]

Gonna be Sanders/Trump/Bush in that order of finish come November 2016. Republicans are gonna close Trump out of debates,polls,etc and he will run 3rd party and establishment republicans will run another RINO in Bush just like in 2012 and 2008, and it will be the end of the republican party as we know it. Gonna be Sanders/Warren,Bush/Kasich,Trump/Carson!

 

[Kondor3]

...Have you ever watched Cuomo?

Every morning, as part of a canvassing of several news channels.

 

[Kondor3]

...lol, show us where and how the poll is biased.

I retracted this later. I was wrong about the objectivity factor connected with the poll.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

With all due respect, stat....and I do respect your polling posts.....it is CNN. Bring us something good.

 

[NYcarbineer]

With all due respect, stat....and I do respect your polling posts.....it is CNN. Bring us something good.

when has CNN ever been an outlier?

 

[PredFan]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Nope.

 

[PredFan]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Lol, apparently YOU aren't much brighter!

Oh man, the comedy writes itself!

Wait a minute. We are talking about cold, hard data and all you can do is to insult and get personal?

Is that the best you have to offer?

Can you refute the data?

Really? Are you really this stupid or are you just being an ass? Read that fucking conversation for fuck's sake.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Nope.

Do you dispute the data?

 

[Statistikhengst]

Hillary Clinton likewise kicks Trump's ass by a smaller yet still huge 16%.

this may be an indication that leading the party of crazies is much easier than leading in a general election.
2016 -- Conducted July 22-25 2016

You just aren't capable of thought are you?

Do you claim that this data does not exist?

Lol, apparently YOU aren't much brighter!

Oh man, the comedy writes itself!

Wait a minute. We are talking about cold, hard data and all you can do is to insult and get personal?

Is that the best you have to offer?

Can you refute the data?

Really? Are you really this stupid or are you just being an ass? Read that fucking conversation for fuck's sake.

I am well aware of the conversation, also aware that you have added nothing of real value to it. All you have done is to troll.

So, make your point.

 

[blackhawk]

Presidential election November 2016 current date July 27th 2015.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Presidential election November 2016 current date July 27th 2015.

That was awesome.