Sanders: Universal Healthcare and Free College Aren’t Radical Ideas, They Are ‘Human Rights’

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, having seen the products left-wing schools are churning out, clearly you are the one who believes education is only for the elite, because your free to the poor public schools, keep passing idiots who can't read or write.

Keep the lower class stupid and ignorant, and claim others only want education for the elite. Brilliant.

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It is REPUBLICANS / CONSERVATIVES who keep cutting budgets for public education. And that has led the the current poor job the schools are doing.

Republicans want all schools to be Charter Schools so someone can make a profit.

Republicans favorite tactic is to cut the budget of agencies and then, when the agency does a poor job, they scream " see we told you government can't do anything right " while ignoring the fact they cut their budget so they didn't have enough money to do the job right. And then they demand to PRIVATIZE the schools and turn them into Charter Schools with taxpayer money going to the owners.

Please show anyplace where education budgets have been cut.
There are none. There is more money going to education now than ever before.
It isnt that you dont know anything. Its that what you know isnt true.

You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous. The public schools here where I live, just spent millions buying every student a tablet computer.

Now information just came out that research shows students with computers do not do any better than students without. What a shock. Students use their tablet to play games. Shocking. Shockingly shocking. I'm shocked. Aren't you shocked? Isn't everyone shocked?

Idiots. Blow millions on crap that doesn't improve education at all, and then complain the reason students are dumb, is because we are not spending enough. Morons.

You troglodytes are a hoot.

Get the computer classes out of the schools!

Bring back tv and vcr repair!

 

[Andylusion]

Actually, having seen the products left-wing schools are churning out, clearly you are the one who believes education is only for the elite, because your free to the poor public schools, keep passing idiots who can't read or write.

Keep the lower class stupid and ignorant, and claim others only want education for the elite. Brilliant.

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It is REPUBLICANS / CONSERVATIVES who keep cutting budgets for public education. And that has led the the current poor job the schools are doing.

Republicans want all schools to be Charter Schools so someone can make a profit.

Republicans favorite tactic is to cut the budget of agencies and then, when the agency does a poor job, they scream " see we told you government can't do anything right " while ignoring the fact they cut their budget so they didn't have enough money to do the job right. And then they demand to PRIVATIZE the schools and turn them into Charter Schools with taxpayer money going to the owners.

Please show anyplace where education budgets have been cut.
There are none. There is more money going to education now than ever before.
It isnt that you dont know anything. Its that what you know isnt true.

You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous. The public schools here where I live, just spent millions buying every student a tablet computer.

Now information just came out that research shows students with computers do not do any better than students without. What a shock. Students use their tablet to play games. Shocking. Shockingly shocking. I'm shocked. Aren't you shocked? Isn't everyone shocked?

Idiots. Blow millions on crap that doesn't improve education at all, and then complain the reason students are dumb, is because we are not spending enough. Morons.

You troglodytes are a hoot.

Get the computer classes out of the schools!

Bring back tv and vcr repair!

You modern neanderthals are a hoot.

Buy more and more computers for students who still can't read or write, or do basic math.

Whooper Floopers with tablet computers! Brilliant.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, having seen the products left-wing schools are churning out, clearly you are the one who believes education is only for the elite, because your free to the poor public schools, keep passing idiots who can't read or write.

Keep the lower class stupid and ignorant, and claim others only want education for the elite. Brilliant.

========

It is REPUBLICANS / CONSERVATIVES who keep cutting budgets for public education. And that has led the the current poor job the schools are doing.

Republicans want all schools to be Charter Schools so someone can make a profit.

Republicans favorite tactic is to cut the budget of agencies and then, when the agency does a poor job, they scream " see we told you government can't do anything right " while ignoring the fact they cut their budget so they didn't have enough money to do the job right. And then they demand to PRIVATIZE the schools and turn them into Charter Schools with taxpayer money going to the owners.

Please show anyplace where education budgets have been cut.
There are none. There is more money going to education now than ever before.
It isnt that you dont know anything. Its that what you know isnt true.

You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous. The public schools here where I live, just spent millions buying every student a tablet computer.

Now information just came out that research shows students with computers do not do any better than students without. What a shock. Students use their tablet to play games. Shocking. Shockingly shocking. I'm shocked. Aren't you shocked? Isn't everyone shocked?

Idiots. Blow millions on crap that doesn't improve education at all, and then complain the reason students are dumb, is because we are not spending enough. Morons.

You troglodytes are a hoot.

Get the computer classes out of the schools!

Bring back tv and vcr repair!

You modern neanderthals are a hoot.

Buy more and more computers for students who still can't read or write, or do basic math.

Whooper Floopers with tablet computers! Brilliant.

I'll bet you think the schools in the rest of the industrialized world don't have computers in them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, having seen the products left-wing schools are churning out, clearly you are the one who believes education is only for the elite, because your free to the poor public schools, keep passing idiots who can't read or write.

Keep the lower class stupid and ignorant, and claim others only want education for the elite. Brilliant.

========

It is REPUBLICANS / CONSERVATIVES who keep cutting budgets for public education. And that has led the the current poor job the schools are doing.

Republicans want all schools to be Charter Schools so someone can make a profit.

Republicans favorite tactic is to cut the budget of agencies and then, when the agency does a poor job, they scream " see we told you government can't do anything right " while ignoring the fact they cut their budget so they didn't have enough money to do the job right. And then they demand to PRIVATIZE the schools and turn them into Charter Schools with taxpayer money going to the owners.

Please show anyplace where education budgets have been cut.
There are none. There is more money going to education now than ever before.
It isnt that you dont know anything. Its that what you know isnt true.

You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous. The public schools here where I live, just spent millions buying every student a tablet computer.

Now information just came out that research shows students with computers do not do any better than students without. What a shock. Students use their tablet to play games. Shocking. Shockingly shocking. I'm shocked. Aren't you shocked? Isn't everyone shocked?

Idiots. Blow millions on crap that doesn't improve education at all, and then complain the reason students are dumb, is because we are not spending enough. Morons.

You troglodytes are a hoot.

Get the computer classes out of the schools!

Bring back tv and vcr repair!

You modern neanderthals are a hoot.

Buy more and more computers for students who still can't read or write, or do basic math.

Whooper Floopers with tablet computers! Brilliant.

So you're saying the kids of central Ohio are illiterate?

lol, call your Governor.

 

[Andylusion]

You moronic fools on the left, with your "so and so is cutting the education budget" is crap. We spend more money on students than any private, or even other international school systems, and our education sucks. Cut the crap. Get a clue. You don't know what you are talking about. The facts are not on you side.

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Arizona REPUBLICANS did cut the budget for public education year after year until the Courts ORDERED them to restore funding and they REFUSED AND DEFY THE COURT.

They are back in court again over it.

One of the States back East ... possibly New Hampshire ... spends the most per pupil and has the highest graduation rate in the country.

Arizona is now tied with Mississippi for spending the least and having the LOWEST percentage of high school graduates.

QUIT LISTENING TO FOX NEWS ... it has been proven that Fox supporters are dumber on the issues than people who watch no news at all.

You once again proved yourself a biased ignorant fool. I don't even own a TV, let alone watch Fox News. That's how pathetic you people are. You can't argue the point, so you randomly bring up Fox News, without knowing anything about who you are talking to.

Again, for the US as a whole, we spend more money per student than any other country in the world. I can only think of one possible exception, which if I remember right is Norway.

And yet our students rank low, even against countries that spend a tiny fraction as much.

Now back to Arizona.

It is true that Arizona cut it's education budget. No one questions that.

The problem with you morons on the left, is that you spend all your time attacking people over it, instead of asking "Dur, why did they cut it?"

You people never ask the simplest of questions, because if you did..... you ignorant leftists would learn..... DUH.. THE BUDGET WAS SHORT YOU MORON. Do you not understand how life works?

You can't buy the house, if you don't have the money. You can't buy the new computer, if you don't have the money. You can't have the Iphone 53 with the full service unlimited data plan, if you don't have the money.

If you want to buy something, you have to freakin get off your lazy butt, and earn the money to buy it.

Guess what.... if you want to spend billions on your school system,you have to pay billions in taxes. Cause and effect dude.

"The poor can't pay anymore in tax" yeah, and so you can't pay for all that school system either. "but it's not fair".... welcome to life little boy. Time to grow up into an adult. Life isn't fair.

The government can't just blow tons of money on services, just because you voted for it. Greece just figured that out. They voted and voted, and just voted again to "spend spend spend", and their government is broke, and so regardless of what they vote for, they are cutting cutting cutting.

If you think I'm lying.... move to Detroit. See how well your plan worked there.

 

[Andylusion]

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It is REPUBLICANS / CONSERVATIVES who keep cutting budgets for public education. And that has led the the current poor job the schools are doing.

Republicans want all schools to be Charter Schools so someone can make a profit.

Republicans favorite tactic is to cut the budget of agencies and then, when the agency does a poor job, they scream " see we told you government can't do anything right " while ignoring the fact they cut their budget so they didn't have enough money to do the job right. And then they demand to PRIVATIZE the schools and turn them into Charter Schools with taxpayer money going to the owners.

Please show anyplace where education budgets have been cut.
There are none. There is more money going to education now than ever before.
It isnt that you dont know anything. Its that what you know isnt true.

You are 100% correct. It's ridiculous. The public schools here where I live, just spent millions buying every student a tablet computer.

Now information just came out that research shows students with computers do not do any better than students without. What a shock. Students use their tablet to play games. Shocking. Shockingly shocking. I'm shocked. Aren't you shocked? Isn't everyone shocked?

Idiots. Blow millions on crap that doesn't improve education at all, and then complain the reason students are dumb, is because we are not spending enough. Morons.

You troglodytes are a hoot.

Get the computer classes out of the schools!

Bring back tv and vcr repair!

You modern neanderthals are a hoot.

Buy more and more computers for students who still can't read or write, or do basic math.

Whooper Floopers with tablet computers! Brilliant.

I'll bet you think the schools in the rest of the industrialized world don't have computers in them.

It was the OECD that wrote the report that computers do not improve learning. Whether they have them or not, is irrelevant to the fact.

Computers 'do not improve' pupil results, says OECD - BBC News

Is this noob night on the forum or something? Seems like all the ignorant people came on to post on the same day.

 

[Jarhead]

And who in this country has "no choice" but to work for $2,500? Answer... None. Yeah, if we make up magical limitations, ok you have a point. In the real world, such limitations do not exist.

You realize that roughly 75% of all McDonalds store managers, and franchise owners started off as minimum wage hourly workers?

If you stick with a job, and work your way up the ladder, you can easily make far more money.

The people who stay at the bottom, generally are there by choice.

For example, when I worked at Wendy's a lady came in, and told all of us, in front of us, that she was only there to work until she could get back on welfare. On the day she said she qualified for welfare again, she stopped showing up for work.

Now that lady, will be at the lowest income bracket for life, and it's her fault, and she deserves it. She is there by choice, and she *SHOULD* get minimum wage... in fact she should be paid a faction of minimum wage.

And I've known dozens of people just like this. Literally. By the way, that even includes myself. I could be a store manager by now, I simply didn't want to do the work. The reason I earn the wages I earn, is because I made choices to that effect. The difference myself, and all these others here, is that I accept it, while others think they are entitled to more.

There are literally millions of jobs for people who want to earn more money. They simply refuse to work. You can buy a $50 lawn mower, and make $30,000 a year easy, just depending on how much you want to mow.

If it's that easy, why don't more people do it? Quite simply... they don't want to work.

And that is my main point. The people who work for very little, do so with few exceptions, by choice. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can earn more money if they want to.

They don't want to. Well, they might 'want' to, but they don't want to do anything to earn more. They simply want more for doing what little they do.

Millions of jobs?

Then why do we see this?

...hundreds lined up for a few job openings at a Walmart. Happens all the time.

Dude, you don't need to wait for walmart. or anyone.

You can start working tomorrow. Grab a mower, and start mowing grass. Grab a shovel, and start doing yard work.

Start tiling floors. The customer will buy the tile, if you have the ability to show up, and put the tile in right.

Walk some dogs. Baby sit some kids. The lady that was across the street from me, had a daycare in her home. That was her one and only source of income. She was single. No Sugar daddy funding her. It was 100% her making money baby sitting kids.

So why are people lined up around the block for a job at walmart? Because walmart is easy. Working for yourself is hard. And when customers get pissed off because you are a jerk, you can't sue them for racial discrimination.

So out of the thousand people lining up for 100 jobs, the other 900 should go mow lawns? That's your big idea?

lol. You fit right in around here amongst the RWnuts.

and what's wrong with doing what you gotta do so you can feed your family? I know a former wall street guy that is now a security guy at a department store. I know a former food broker that is now selling tiles at the Home Depot.
If I needed to mow lawns to feed my family, I would. Heck, at one point in my life I was bagging groceries as a night job so I could save money to open my own company.

Or we could do it your way....blame others, complain about long lines for a job and collect from the government.

lol, so now you're attacking the people who line up for jobs?

Is that because there are so many blacks in that picture? Of course it is.

the fact that you had to spin what I said to paint me into some bad guy is a compliment. It means you are weak in your position and unable to respond to the point I made.
Either that or you are an idiot with the comprehension skills of a child.

Which one is it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You moronic fools on the left, with your "so and so is cutting the education budget" is crap. We spend more money on students than any private, or even other international school systems, and our education sucks. Cut the crap. Get a clue. You don't know what you are talking about. The facts are not on you side.

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Arizona REPUBLICANS did cut the budget for public education year after year until the Courts ORDERED them to restore funding and they REFUSED AND DEFY THE COURT.

They are back in court again over it.

One of the States back East ... possibly New Hampshire ... spends the most per pupil and has the highest graduation rate in the country.

Arizona is now tied with Mississippi for spending the least and having the LOWEST percentage of high school graduates.

QUIT LISTENING TO FOX NEWS ... it has been proven that Fox supporters are dumber on the issues than people who watch no news at all.

Overall the US spends more per capita on education than any country in the industrialized world, yet we are only mediocre in international educational results.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's where my problem is. It's always easy for people like yourself, to claim others shouldn't have employment arrangements that you don't like. And you make up crap like "They can't live off that!", and yet there are people who do. And if a 17 year old girl in high school, wants to say "do you want fries with that?" at a drive through window, who are you to say that's wrong? They most certainly can live off $2,500 a year, when they live at home.

Automation isn't replacing service jobs in 10 years. They started doing that years ago. Down at the Get-N-Go where I work, they used to have a fully staffed grill inside the store. You would go up to a cashier and order your food, and they would get it for you. About a half dozen people.

What is exactly your point ?
The problem with you people is you think macroeconomy is micro multiplied by N and that such things as externalities are non existent entities.

IF a couple of kids decide to work for 2,500 there-is-no problem. BUT ( and this is a big BUT ), if the only choice for 50 million people is to work for $2,500 then you have a very big problem, specially when salaries are decoupled from productivity.

What exactly do you think triggered the Rusian , French and Mexican revolutions ? Great working conditions for the masses?

And who exactly will purchase all those goods and services produced with ultra low wages if no one has the income to purchase them ? huh? Have you ever taken a look at the cyclical model of economy ?

And who in this country has "no choice" but to work for $2,500? Answer... None. Yeah, if we make up magical limitations, ok you have a point. In the real world, such limitations do not exist.

You realize that roughly 75% of all McDonalds store managers, and franchise owners started off as minimum wage hourly workers?

If you stick with a job, and work your way up the ladder, you can easily make far more money.

The people who stay at the bottom, generally are there by choice.

For example, when I worked at Wendy's a lady came in, and told all of us, in front of us, that she was only there to work until she could get back on welfare. On the day she said she qualified for welfare again, she stopped showing up for work.

Now that lady, will be at the lowest income bracket for life, and it's her fault, and she deserves it. She is there by choice, and she *SHOULD* get minimum wage... in fact she should be paid a faction of minimum wage.

And I've known dozens of people just like this. Literally. By the way, that even includes myself. I could be a store manager by now, I simply didn't want to do the work. The reason I earn the wages I earn, is because I made choices to that effect. The difference myself, and all these others here, is that I accept it, while others think they are entitled to more.

There are literally millions of jobs for people who want to earn more money. They simply refuse to work. You can buy a $50 lawn mower, and make $30,000 a year easy, just depending on how much you want to mow.

If it's that easy, why don't more people do it? Quite simply... they don't want to work.

And that is my main point. The people who work for very little, do so with few exceptions, by choice. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can earn more money if they want to.

They don't want to. Well, they might 'want' to, but they don't want to do anything to earn more. They simply want more for doing what little they do.

Millions of jobs?

Then why do we see this?

...hundreds lined up for a few job openings at a Walmart. Happens all the time.

just curious, why is everyone in your picture black? what conclusions do you draw from that?

Because contrary to racist rightwing propaganda,

black Americans WANT jobs.

Then let them get jobs. Who's stopping them?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's where my problem is. It's always easy for people like yourself, to claim others shouldn't have employment arrangements that you don't like. And you make up crap like "They can't live off that!", and yet there are people who do. And if a 17 year old girl in high school, wants to say "do you want fries with that?" at a drive through window, who are you to say that's wrong? They most certainly can live off $2,500 a year, when they live at home.

Automation isn't replacing service jobs in 10 years. They started doing that years ago. Down at the Get-N-Go where I work, they used to have a fully staffed grill inside the store. You would go up to a cashier and order your food, and they would get it for you. About a half dozen people.

What is exactly your point ?
The problem with you people is you think macroeconomy is micro multiplied by N and that such things as externalities are non existent entities.

IF a couple of kids decide to work for 2,500 there-is-no problem. BUT ( and this is a big BUT ), if the only choice for 50 million people is to work for $2,500 then you have a very big problem, specially when salaries are decoupled from productivity.

What exactly do you think triggered the Rusian , French and Mexican revolutions ? Great working conditions for the masses?

And who exactly will purchase all those goods and services produced with ultra low wages if no one has the income to purchase them ? huh? Have you ever taken a look at the cyclical model of economy ?

And who in this country has "no choice" but to work for $2,500? Answer... None. Yeah, if we make up magical limitations, ok you have a point. In the real world, such limitations do not exist.

You realize that roughly 75% of all McDonalds store managers, and franchise owners started off as minimum wage hourly workers?

If you stick with a job, and work your way up the ladder, you can easily make far more money.

The people who stay at the bottom, generally are there by choice.

For example, when I worked at Wendy's a lady came in, and told all of us, in front of us, that she was only there to work until she could get back on welfare. On the day she said she qualified for welfare again, she stopped showing up for work.

Now that lady, will be at the lowest income bracket for life, and it's her fault, and she deserves it. She is there by choice, and she *SHOULD* get minimum wage... in fact she should be paid a faction of minimum wage.

And I've known dozens of people just like this. Literally. By the way, that even includes myself. I could be a store manager by now, I simply didn't want to do the work. The reason I earn the wages I earn, is because I made choices to that effect. The difference myself, and all these others here, is that I accept it, while others think they are entitled to more.

There are literally millions of jobs for people who want to earn more money. They simply refuse to work. You can buy a $50 lawn mower, and make $30,000 a year easy, just depending on how much you want to mow.

If it's that easy, why don't more people do it? Quite simply... they don't want to work.

And that is my main point. The people who work for very little, do so with few exceptions, by choice. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can earn more money if they want to.

They don't want to. Well, they might 'want' to, but they don't want to do anything to earn more. They simply want more for doing what little they do.

Millions of jobs?

Then why do we see this?

...hundreds lined up for a few job openings at a Walmart. Happens all the time.

Maybe if they lined up like that at a vocational school, they wouldn't be in this Walmart line today.

 

[ninja007]

I LOVE WHEN THE LEFT , WHO MURDERS A MILLION BABIES A YEAR TALKS ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS....

 

[Cecilie1200]

The greatest nation on the face of the earth ought to have the healthiest and most well educated populace on the face of the earth. No?

Silly nutters.

Then how do you explain that our Democrat controlled public schools have 80% of students unable to read at grade level?

Cool stat, bro.......where'd ya get it?

I explain it by calling you out for BS. Schools are run locally. Blue states do better than red.....blue counties DESTROY red counties when it comes to quality of education.

The CONSERVATIVE agenda to make higher education something that only wealthy people can afford has damaged this nation. Ya dumb shit.

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Republicans only believe in Private Schools.

They believe education is only for the children of the Elite and that children of commoners should only go to school until they are 7 or 8 years old and then go to work in the factories like in the good old days of the 1800's.

Yes, Republicans champion voucher programs to give vouchers to RICH people . . . who can already afford to take their children out of failing schools.

If you have any actual proof that what you've said is based on fact, rather than an utterly lame appeal to emotion, feel free to produce it. Otherwise, I will just assume you're a vaporous, whining little puss and pay you the respect you deserve (which is to say, none at all).

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yo, Bernie and fellow socialist libs.

It ain't free, someone has to pay for it. Unless you can get college profs to work for no pay, college janitors and administrators to work for no pay, and utility companies to provide free electricity, gas, and water, it isn't free.

You fools talk about Sweden, do you think college is free in Sweden? NO. income is taxed at 50-60% in Sweden. Do you really want to give half of your income to the government so they, and not you, can decide how it should be spent?

You know perfectly well that they do. Their dream is to simply have the government hand them an allowance with instructions on how to spend it.

 

[Redfish]

Yo, Bernie and fellow socialist libs.

It ain't free, someone has to pay for it. Unless you can get college profs to work for no pay, college janitors and administrators to work for no pay, and utility companies to provide free electricity, gas, and water, it isn't free.

You fools talk about Sweden, do you think college is free in Sweden? NO. income is taxed at 50-60% in Sweden. Do you really want to give half of your income to the government so they, and not you, can decide how it should be spent?

You know perfectly well that they do. Their dream is to simply have the government hand them an allowance with instructions on how to spend it.

sadly, I think you are correct

 

[basquebromance]

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Socialist only have onecargument against the capitalist system which is that it is greed. That is it!

It is to bad Bernie won't see the light of day.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

I guess if you are going to bail out super rich companies then I guess you are right.

 

[Andylusion]

Complete false. King was wrong, and Sanders is wrong. Entirely wrong.

 

[gipper]

Both men are right. The problem is Bernie's solution for this problem, is socialism for all Americans...which is just another way of saying make government as big and powerful as humanly possible. What could go wrong?

 

[Arianrhod]

Pretty soon Bernie's going to knock the Trumpster in the USMB dumpster...