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So how does the lesser populated areas in ideology get represented for our Presidents if the EC was gone?
The people of Wyoming don't vote for the president, Einstein. The state of Wyoming does.DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.
Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.
Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.
And even if they did, an individual's vote in Wyoming wouldn't count for any more than an individual's vote in California would.
We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state. For example, in CA HRC won 61.5% of the vote, and Trump 31.5, so 61 & 31 of the electoral college from CA ought to represent the vote in CA. And in Texas, 52.2 voted for Trump, and 43.2 voted for HRC. Thus, the EC from TX ought to have 52 for trump, and 43 for Clinton.
The balance of the votes should go to the percentage greater than one to minor party candidates.
That still is not fair for each states individual counties which differ in ideologies.
Shows Show Only the ShallowI don't know if if it's correct or not, but I just saw a graphic on TV claiming that 68% of Americans favor abolishing the electoral college, and shifting to the popular vote. It said 89% of these were Democrats, and 46% Republicans.
I can easily see why 89% of Democrats favor the popular vote, but there is no reason for Republicans to choose it. The % of Republicans wanting the popular vote should be ZERO. The popular vote campaign is nothing but a ploy by Democrats to jam as many foreigners into the US as they can, legal or illegal, give their kids born here birthright citizenship, give them welfare benefits$$, and then protect them in sanctuary cities.
Why ? Becasue in return for this irresponsible recklessness, the immigrants then all VOTE DEMOCRAT. The idea is to bring in millions of these dirtbags from every hellhole country in the world, stack up the states with them and their Democrat VOTES, and eradicate the Repubican Party forever. The electoral college is exactly what PROTECTS us from just this sort of thing.
So for all those Republicans in the 46% (if the poll is true), who are OK with disposing of the electoral college, please get your heads out of your asses, and not fall for this Democrat scam job to destroy your party, and dump nutjob leftist ideology on the country, with no end to it.
i would ask what the hell you're talking about but i'm afraid you'd tell me.you mean like getting to determine who you choose to do business with?So, you supported Prop 8 in California where the will of the people was to determine that marriage was between one man and one woman, right? You thought that the courts should not have overturned a clear majority vote win, right?Of course Republicans don't want to abolish the electoral college. They would never win another election if we got rid of it.
No other free nation on Earth has such a system. The majority is supposed to decide who runs their country . The will of the people. The electoral system takes the will of the people away.
We're talking apple and oranges here. We're discussing how our leaders are elected. The issue with prop 8 was that it infringed upon personal freedoms. It's like how people in the south would've preferred to keep segregation but they it was discrimination.
Electing a leader isn't going to infringe upon someone's personal rights.
or that you must allow men to pee in the ladies room?
or that guns are under attack and if they can't get those, ban bullets?
you mean rights like those would never be lost depending on who was in office?
You're comparing civil rights legislation with electing a leader. Those are two separate things. You cannot compare the two.
Why do you keep whining about my posts and instead address the fallacies in your claim that Trump is a "dumb man".Yup, a "dumb" man who bested 17 establishment republican candidates with name recognition, then went on to beat crooked Hillary who spent billions more and had the FBI, the CIA, and the corrupt media in her back pocket.This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.
Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.
A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^
Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur
NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.
Yep, a biddable and dumb man, who once again in this ^^^ post demonstrated how easily he has been led by The Donald, and another man (mostly men) who echo the propaganda which fills the Internet, AM Radio and Faux News.
As I posted, democracy requires an informed populace, sadly 35% are not informed and incapable of sagacious thinking.
Why do you keep whining about my posts and address the fallacies in your claim that Trump is a "dumb man".Yup, a "dumb" man who bested 17 establishment republican candidates with name recognition, then went on to beat crooked Hillary who spent billions more and had the FBI, the CIA, and the corrupt media in her back pocket.This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.
Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.
A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^
Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur
NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.
Yep, a biddable and dumb man, who once again in this ^^^ post demonstrated how easily he has been led by The Donald, and another man (mostly men) who echo the propaganda which fills the Internet, AM Radio and Faux News.
As I posted, democracy requires an informed populace, sadly 35% are not informed and incapable of sagacious thinking.
Typical Leftwing nut, can't handle the truth so they erupt into hissy fits when confronted with the reality that if anything, Trump is a brilliant genius.
Unless you think winning the presidency under the circumstances that he did is no biggie.
It's always racism, sexism, slavery, sexism, blah blah blah with them. They cannot remove identity politics from any issue.DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.
Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.
Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.
No better way to make an uninformed, partisan argument FOR the popular vote than to tie it to race and slavery. LOL
Everybody is a "salesman" of sorts, you dumbass! Your posts shows just how much you know about life and how unhinged from reality you are. Even a doctor or an attorney is "selling" their competence and skills in the services they offer. You want a raise, you have to sell it to your boss, and so on and so forth.Why do you keep whining about my posts and address the fallacies in your claim that Trump is a "dumb man".Yup, a "dumb" man who bested 17 establishment republican candidates with name recognition, then went on to beat crooked Hillary who spent billions more and had the FBI, the CIA, and the corrupt media in her back pocket.This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.
Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.
A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^
Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur
NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.
Yep, a biddable and dumb man, who once again in this ^^^ post demonstrated how easily he has been led by The Donald, and another man (mostly men) who echo the propaganda which fills the Internet, AM Radio and Faux News.
As I posted, democracy requires an informed populace, sadly 35% are not informed and incapable of sagacious thinking.
Typical Leftwing nut, can't handle the truth so they erupt into hissy fits when confronted with the reality that if anything, Trump is a brilliant genius.
Unless you think winning the presidency under the circumstances that he did is no biggie.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
Shows Show Only the ShallowI don't know if if it's correct or not, but I just saw a graphic on TV claiming that 68% of Americans favor abolishing the electoral college, and shifting to the popular vote. It said 89% of these were Democrats, and 46% Republicans.
I can easily see why 89% of Democrats favor the popular vote, but there is no reason for Republicans to choose it. The % of Republicans wanting the popular vote should be ZERO. The popular vote campaign is nothing but a ploy by Democrats to jam as many foreigners into the US as they can, legal or illegal, give their kids born here birthright citizenship, give them welfare benefits$$, and then protect them in sanctuary cities.
Why ? Becasue in return for this irresponsible recklessness, the immigrants then all VOTE DEMOCRAT. The idea is to bring in millions of these dirtbags from every hellhole country in the world, stack up the states with them and their Democrat VOTES, and eradicate the Repubican Party forever. The electoral college is exactly what PROTECTS us from just this sort of thing.
So for all those Republicans in the 46% (if the poll is true), who are OK with disposing of the electoral college, please get your heads out of your asses, and not fall for this Democrat scam job to destroy your party, and dump nutjob leftist ideology on the country, with no end to it.
The four candidates on the Right in 2016 got more popular votes than hillary and jillary. If we had the automatic runoff, Trump would have won the PV too. The Rightist media won't bring that up as a talking point because the hired press wants everybody to vote for the duopoly.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
As a lifelong S&M professional (Sales & Marketing not .. well you know ;-) - Gotta be SOMEWHAT simpatico with Roudy on this one. He's right, everyone is a salesman in some manner or another.
Some are good, some are bad - The good ones are ethical, others are not.
Trump is an unethical sales person, entitled by Daddy Fred and who's a certifiable FAILURE in business and at sales an yet perfected the Art of the STEAL.
There are strong, ethical salespeople in this world - I count myself among them. And then there are Tin Men. Trump is a Tin Man.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
As a lifelong S&M professional (Sales & Marketing not .. well you know ;-) - Gotta be SOMEWHAT simpatico with Roudy on this one. He's right, everyone is a salesman in some manner or another.
Some are good, some are bad - The good ones are ethical, others are not.
Trump is an unethical sales person, entitled by Daddy Fred and who's a certifiable FAILURE in business and at sales an yet perfected the Art of the STEAL.
There are strong, ethical salespeople in this world - I count myself among them. And then there are Tin Men. Trump is a Tin Man.
So what does that make Hi-liary the crooked lying thief sponsored by the likes of Soros and Weinstien?
Why do you keep whining about my posts and address the fallacies in your claim that Trump is a "dumb man".Yup, a "dumb" man who bested 17 establishment republican candidates with name recognition, then went on to beat crooked Hillary who spent billions more and had the FBI, the CIA, and the corrupt media in her back pocket.This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.
Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.
A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^
Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur
NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.
Yep, a biddable and dumb man, who once again in this ^^^ post demonstrated how easily he has been led by The Donald, and another man (mostly men) who echo the propaganda which fills the Internet, AM Radio and Faux News.
As I posted, democracy requires an informed populace, sadly 35% are not informed and incapable of sagacious thinking.
Typical Leftwing nut, can't handle the truth so they erupt into hissy fits when confronted with the reality that if anything, Trump is a brilliant genius.
Unless you think winning the presidency under the circumstances that he did is no biggie.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
Why do you keep whining about my posts and address the fallacies in your claim that Trump is a "dumb man".Yup, a "dumb" man who bested 17 establishment republican candidates with name recognition, then went on to beat crooked Hillary who spent billions more and had the FBI, the CIA, and the corrupt media in her back pocket.This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.
Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.
A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^
Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur
NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.
Yep, a biddable and dumb man, who once again in this ^^^ post demonstrated how easily he has been led by The Donald, and another man (mostly men) who echo the propaganda which fills the Internet, AM Radio and Faux News.
As I posted, democracy requires an informed populace, sadly 35% are not informed and incapable of sagacious thinking.
Typical Leftwing nut, can't handle the truth so they erupt into hissy fits when confronted with the reality that if anything, Trump is a brilliant genius.
Unless you think winning the presidency under the circumstances that he did is no biggie.
Trump is a salesman, and like most aggressive salesmen he attacks competitors, tells his audience what they want to hear, and bullies those who don't kiss his ass.
Some of us don't like bullies, and have the balls and facts to put them in their place. Trump belongs in a used car lot, where legit dealerships get rid of the lemons.
That you believe Trump is a genius, tells me much more about your level of intelligence than about his.
We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state. For example, in CA HRC won 61.5% of the vote, and Trump 31.5, so 61 & 31 of the electoral college from CA ought to represent the vote in CA. And in Texas, 52.2 voted for Trump, and 43.2 voted for HRC. Thus, the EC from TX ought to have 52 for trump, and 43 for Clinton.
The balance of the votes should go to the percentage greater than one to minor party candidates.
Nah, sounds like your truth allergy is acting up again. Take some Mucinex. LOLSo what does that make Hi-liary the crooked lying thief sponsored by the likes of Soros and Weinstien?
Yes of course -- The Hillary and/or Obama deflection duly dismissed
Do you count the Libertarian Party as one on the Right?
Cut ties with the neo-Nazis and all the other hate groups and maybe they`ll vote Republican. Anyway, are there other countries where the #2 vote getter wins the election?I don't know if if it's correct or not, but I just saw a graphic on TV claiming that 68% of Americans favor abolishing the electoral college, and shifting to the popular vote. It said 89% of these were Democrats, and 46% Republicans.
I can easily see why 89% of Democrats favor the popular vote, but there is no reason for Republicans to choose it. The % of Republicans wanting the popular vote should be ZERO. The popular vote campaign is nothing but a ploy by Democrats to jam as many foreigners into the US as they can, legal or illegal, give their kids born here birthright citizenship, give them welfare benefits$$, and then protect them in sanctuary cities.
Why ? Becasue in return for this irresponsible recklessness, the immigrants then all VOTE DEMOCRAT. The idea is to bring in millions of these dirtbags from every hellhole country in the world, stack up the states with them and their Democrat VOTES, and eradicate the Repubican Party forever. The electoral college is exactly what PROTECTS us from just this sort of thing.
So for all those Republicans in the 46% (if the poll is true), who are OK with disposing of the electoral college, please get your heads out of your asses, and not fall for this Democrat scam job to destroy your party, and dump nutjob leftist ideology on the country, with no end to it.
