candycorn
Diamond Member
Trump is the last person I want to see as President. There are empty suits and then there is Mr. Trump who is perhaps the most reprehensible person to enter our politics in quite a while. After calling Mexicans rapists and making fun of a man with neurological disorder, how anyone could vote for this small fraction of a human being is really a sign that American society has a very dark strain to it. Good that it is in the bowels of the GOP instead of being too widespread I suppose but that it exists anywhere in 2016 is frankly a sign that the nation hasn't progressed as far as many of us--of both major political ideologies and both major political parties--had hoped.
That being said, the democratic way to elect a person is that she/he who receives the most votes wins in the political primaries. If he gets the majority of votes in the Republican primaries/caucuses and the majority of delegates on the first ballot, he should win the GOP nomination for the President. Any deviation from that should not be encouraged by the GOP. I think Secretary Clinton would have a very easy time beating him both in popular vote and in the electoral vote mathematics.
Since she has her own baggage and is a flawed candidate in her own right and a 3rd party insurgency is a possiblility; I have been thinking about different scenarios to where we could end up with a person who is the President who is not named Trump or Clinton.
One that comes to mind is that if both Trump and Clinton end up with 269. Since Mr. Trump will shake up the map a little, this is a possibility.
The scenario goes like this. We vote on the 11/9. The electors vote on December 18 (I think). Joe Biden unseals them on 1/6/17. If there are just 2 people getting EVs, the House is faced with voting for either Trump or Clinton as President. They vote as a State Delegation and there are 33 majority Red delegations and 14 majority blue delegations and 3 that are tied. If a state delegation is tied; there is no vote cast for that State. There are enough to where one or two red members flipping would either disqualify the State or flip it to blue to give HRC the Presidency but I seriously doubt that would happen.
But another scenario is that as the House is voting, the Senate is selecting the VP. It is dominated by the GOP as well.
So, if the race comes down to HRC and Trump as President and Chris Christie and ______________ as VP nominees, the House may do the following; not vote at all. Let the Senate vote for Chris Christie and on 1/20, he becomes President. Meanwhile, there will be suit after suit filed by Trump to force the HOR to hold a vote. It would go to the Supreme Court post haste. To where it may face a 4-4 tie and no decision gets made.... Depending on who is appealing and who is the plaintiff, the VP could be installed as the President and Ryan, Dick Durbin (the new majority leader) , and Christie start legislating....
I see no Constitutional "trigger" that could make the HOR take a vote any more than I see one that makes the Senate consider Obama's nomination.
Admittedly, it's a lot of "ifs" to it but it's a fun scenario to consider.
That being said, the democratic way to elect a person is that she/he who receives the most votes wins in the political primaries. If he gets the majority of votes in the Republican primaries/caucuses and the majority of delegates on the first ballot, he should win the GOP nomination for the President. Any deviation from that should not be encouraged by the GOP. I think Secretary Clinton would have a very easy time beating him both in popular vote and in the electoral vote mathematics.
Since she has her own baggage and is a flawed candidate in her own right and a 3rd party insurgency is a possiblility; I have been thinking about different scenarios to where we could end up with a person who is the President who is not named Trump or Clinton.
One that comes to mind is that if both Trump and Clinton end up with 269. Since Mr. Trump will shake up the map a little, this is a possibility.
The scenario goes like this. We vote on the 11/9. The electors vote on December 18 (I think). Joe Biden unseals them on 1/6/17. If there are just 2 people getting EVs, the House is faced with voting for either Trump or Clinton as President. They vote as a State Delegation and there are 33 majority Red delegations and 14 majority blue delegations and 3 that are tied. If a state delegation is tied; there is no vote cast for that State. There are enough to where one or two red members flipping would either disqualify the State or flip it to blue to give HRC the Presidency but I seriously doubt that would happen.
But another scenario is that as the House is voting, the Senate is selecting the VP. It is dominated by the GOP as well.
So, if the race comes down to HRC and Trump as President and Chris Christie and ______________ as VP nominees, the House may do the following; not vote at all. Let the Senate vote for Chris Christie and on 1/20, he becomes President. Meanwhile, there will be suit after suit filed by Trump to force the HOR to hold a vote. It would go to the Supreme Court post haste. To where it may face a 4-4 tie and no decision gets made.... Depending on who is appealing and who is the plaintiff, the VP could be installed as the President and Ryan, Dick Durbin (the new majority leader) , and Christie start legislating....
I see no Constitutional "trigger" that could make the HOR take a vote any more than I see one that makes the Senate consider Obama's nomination.
Admittedly, it's a lot of "ifs" to it but it's a fun scenario to consider.
