Science Truth, and Religion

[ding]

No, I got it, you ignored my point. People DO murder children. They do it for their pleasure. Thus, yet again, your argument fails.

yes, people break the law. I would dispute your characterisation that it solely for pleasure, and it does nothing to dispute my point.

I suggest you look at sociopaths and their behavior before you make such an ignorant statement.

Soooo...you think that the mentally ill, and unbalanced are evil? Really???? And you call me bigoted?!? Huh...

A sociopath has the ability to CHOOSE. They simply don't care that their victim is suffering. They only care about their pleasure. There are high functioning sociopaths out there who are able to choose to not harm people, they get their jollies in other ways, but it is always a choice. Like I said, you look up definitions on wiki but you don't understand them. I'm a PhD geologist, and my wife is a PhD psychologist. We speak about science AS scientists.

And as one PhD to another you also make a lot of presumptions about others. Before you ask, psychiatry.

Really, then why don't you tell us the psychology of motivational based interviewing and how that pertains to what the Bible teaches. Or maybe we can discuss what the mind does when presented with a conflict and how that pertains to what the Bible teaches on that subject.

 

[ding]

yes, people break the law. I would dispute your characterisation that it solely for pleasure, and it does nothing to dispute my point.

I suggest you look at sociopaths and their behavior before you make such an ignorant statement.

Soooo...you think that the mentally ill, and unbalanced are evil? Really???? And you call me bigoted?!? Huh...

A sociopath has the ability to CHOOSE. They simply don't care that their victim is suffering. They only care about their pleasure. There are high functioning sociopaths out there who are able to choose to not harm people, they get their jollies in other ways, but it is always a choice. Like I said, you look up definitions on wiki but you don't understand them. I'm a PhD geologist, and my wife is a PhD psychologist. We speak about science AS scientists.

And as one PhD to another you also make a lot of presumptions about others. Before you ask, psychiatry.

Then, an MD how it it that don't understand sociopathic behavior? Your claim is refuted by your lack of knowledge.

Agreed.

 

[Czernobog]

yes, people break the law. I would dispute your characterisation that it solely for pleasure, and it does nothing to dispute my point.

I suggest you look at sociopaths and their behavior before you make such an ignorant statement.

Soooo...you think that the mentally ill, and unbalanced are evil? Really???? And you call me bigoted?!? Huh...

A sociopath has the ability to CHOOSE. They simply don't care that their victim is suffering. They only care about their pleasure. There are high functioning sociopaths out there who are able to choose to not harm people, they get their jollies in other ways, but it is always a choice. Like I said, you look up definitions on wiki but you don't understand them. I'm a PhD geologist, and my wife is a PhD psychologist. We speak about science AS scientists.

And as one PhD to another you also make a lot of presumptions about others. Before you ask, psychiatry.

Then, an MD how it it that don't understand sociopathic behavior? Your claim is refuted by your lack of knowledge.

How is that you do not understand sociopathy is a disease?

 

[Czernobog]

One does not call the sick "evil" however objectionable the behaviour of the sick may be.

 

[RodISHI]

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

That's rich. You believe in magic and fairy tales, and you are going to talk to me like I'm the child?

I'm not sure you have made that "child" status yet

Well, I give the opinion of the guy who believes in magic, and myths, and relies on insults all the attention it deserves.

You are the one that cannot perceive what a Spirit is. That is not an insult just a fact.

"Pot meet kettle".

Now your just spewing gibberish.

No I am simply giving you the opportunity to you as you show with each of your own posts what sort of a hypocrite you are.

 

[Czernobog]

That's rich. You believe in magic and fairy tales, and you are going to talk to me like I'm the child?

I'm not sure you have made that "child" status yet

Well, I give the opinion of the guy who believes in magic, and myths, and relies on insults all the attention it deserves.

You are the one that cannot perceive what a Spirit is. That is not an insult just a fact.

"Pot meet kettle".

Now your just spewing gibberish.

No I am simply giving you the opportunity to you as you show with each of your own posts what sort of a hypocrite you are.

Well, you're failing miserably. Thanks for playing.

 

[ding]

They have? Please post up some scientific facts that have proven the bible to be false. I personally think the bible is a very accurate source for the history of the middle eastern areas from over 4,000 years ago. Archaeological work done in the region has shown the bible to be remarkably accurate. So, by all means plese tell us the scientific facts that you claim nullify actual archaeological work done in the area.

How about we start with an easy one: Joshua 10:13 - "So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar."

Science has proven that for that to occur, would, literally, require the Earth to abruptly stop spinning on its axis, flinging everything - atmosphere, plants, animals, and us - into space. It is a scientific impossibility. A lie. And the Bible is full of such lies.

"Sun" meaning congregation of righteousness (hosts of heaven created to assist humans in overcoming). Whilst 'sun' is referring generally to illicit worship. "Moon", 'moon' is what old coinage/money/wealth again an un-righteous aspect and a righteous aspect. Do some homework.

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

 

[Czernobog]

How about we start with an easy one: Joshua 10:13 - "So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar."

Science has proven that for that to occur, would, literally, require the Earth to abruptly stop spinning on its axis, flinging everything - atmosphere, plants, animals, and us - into space. It is a scientific impossibility. A lie. And the Bible is full of such lies.

"Sun" meaning congregation of righteousness (hosts of heaven created to assist humans in overcoming). Whilst 'sun' is referring generally to illicit worship. "Moon", 'moon' is what old coinage/money/wealth again an un-righteous aspect and a righteous aspect. Do some homework.

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

You mean like the fact that Kohlberg only used white male subjects? Or the fact that Kohblerg's theory completely ignores the fact that one's perspective on moral values change when faced with a moral dilemma (choose between the death of a loved one, or the death of a baby). The fact is that Kohblerg's theories were abandoned ages ago, because they were simply not equipped to handle how people react in normal daily decisions. But, you know, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about...

See, this is what happens when a person with a minimum education who surfs the net, and thinks he knows a lot comes face to face with people who have actually spent their lives studying a subject.

 

[Vastator]

"Sun" meaning congregation of righteousness (hosts of heaven created to assist humans in overcoming). Whilst 'sun' is referring generally to illicit worship. "Moon", 'moon' is what old coinage/money/wealth again an un-righteous aspect and a righteous aspect. Do some homework.

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

You mean like the fact that Kohlberg only used white male subjects? Or the fact that Kohblerg's theory completely ignores the fact that one's perspective on moral values change when faced with a moral dilemma (choose between the death of a loved one, or the death of a baby). The fact is that Kohblerg's theories were abandoned ages ago, because they were dimply not equipped to handle how people react in normal daily decisions. But, you know, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about...

Perhaps if you had tapped the wellspring of Dinks knowledge... Google; over that tawdry "formal education" thingy...

 

[RodISHI]

I'm not sure you have made that "child" status yet

Well, I give the opinion of the guy who believes in magic, and myths, and relies on insults all the attention it deserves.

You are the one that cannot perceive what a Spirit is. That is not an insult just a fact.

"Pot meet kettle".

Now your just spewing gibberish.

No I am simply giving you the opportunity to you as you show with each of your own posts what sort of a hypocrite you are.

Well, you're failing miserably. Thanks for playing.

You are the one that fails to recognize or does not understand what a spirit is.

spir·it
ˈspirit/
noun
noun: spirit; plural noun: spirits

1. 1.
   the nonphysical part of a person that is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
   "we seek a harmony between body and spirit"
   synonyms: soul, psyche, (inner) self, inner being, inner man/woman, mind, ego, id;
   pneuma
   "harmony between body and spirit"
   antonyms: body, flesh
   • the nonphysical part of a person regarded as a person's true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation.
     "a year after he left, his spirit is still present"
   • the nonphysical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a ghost.
     synonyms: ghost, presence;
     informalspook
     "a spirit haunts the island"
   • a supernatural being.
     "shrines to nature spirits"
   • short for Holy Spirit.
     noun: Spirit; noun: the Spirit
   • archaic
     a highly refined substance or fluid thought to govern vital phenomena.
2. 2.
   those qualities regarded as forming the definitive or typical elements in the character of a person, nation, or group or in the thought and attitudes of a particular period.
   "the university is a symbol of the nation's egalitarian spirit"
   synonyms: ethos, prevailing tendency, motivating force, essence, quintessence; More
   atmosphere, mood, feeling, climate;
   attitudes, beliefs, principles, standards, ethics
   "the spirit of the age"
   • a person identified with their most prominent mental or moral characteristics or with their role in a group or movement.
     "he was a leading spirit in the conference"
   • a specified emotion or mood, especially one prevailing at a particular time.
     "I hope the team will build on this spirit of confidence"
   • a person's mood.
     "the warm weather lifted everyone's spirits after the winter"
     synonyms: mood, frame of mind, state of mind, emotional state, humor, temper
     "she was in good spirits when I left"
   • the quality of courage, energy, and determination or assertiveness.
     "his visitors admired his spirit and good temper"
     synonyms: morale, esprit de corps More
     "team spirit"
     courage, bravery, pluck, valor, strength of character, fortitude, backbone, mettle, stoutheartedness, determination, resolution, resolve, fight, grit;
     informal guts, spunk, sand, moxie
     "his spirit never failed him"
     enthusiasm, eagerness, keenness, liveliness, vivacity, vivaciousness, animation, energy, verve, vigor, dynamism, zest, dash, elan, panache, sparkle, exuberance, gusto, brio, pep, fervor, zeal, fire, passion;
     informal get-up-and-go
     "they played with great spirit"
   • the attitude or intentions with which someone undertakes or regards something.
     "he confessed in a spirit of self-respect, not defiance"
     synonyms: attitude, frame of mind, way of thinking, point of view, outlook, thoughts, ideas
     "that's the spirit"
   • the real meaning or the intention behind something as opposed to its strict verbal interpretation.
     "the rule had been broken in spirit if not in letter"
     synonyms: real/true meaning, true intention, essence, substance
     "the spirit of the law"
3. 3.
   strong distilled liquor such as brandy, whiskey, gin, or rum.
   synonyms: strong liquor/drink; More
   informal hard stuff, firewater, hooch
   "he drinks spirits"
   • a volatile liquid, especially a fuel, prepared by distillation.
     "aviation spirit"
   • archaic
     a solution of volatile components extracted from something, typically by distillation or by solution in alcohol.
     "spirits of turpentine"

verb
verb: spirit; 3rd person present: spirits; past tense: spirited; past participle: spirited; gerund or present participle: spiriting

1. 1.
   convey rapidly and secretly.
   "stolen cows were spirited away some distance to prevent detection"

Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French, from Latin spiritus ‘breath, spirit,’ from spirare ‘breathe.’

 

[Czernobog]

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

You mean like the fact that Kohlberg only used white male subjects? Or the fact that Kohblerg's theory completely ignores the fact that one's perspective on moral values change when faced with a moral dilemma (choose between the death of a loved one, or the death of a baby). The fact is that Kohblerg's theories were abandoned ages ago, because they were dimply not equipped to handle how people react in normal daily decisions. But, you know, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about...

Perhaps if you had tapped the wellspring of Dinks knowledge... Google; over that tawdry "formal education" thingy...

Yeah...you'll notice he didn't fire right back with a response. He needs to go Google Kohlberg, to try and find a suitable response...

In the meantime it should be noted that theologists do still rely on Kohlberg's studies in many of their lectures on ethical calculus. To be honest, though, more modern ethicists, such as Kowalski have done a much better job of refining methods of decision making that can be applied to everyday decisions.

 

[Czernobog]

Well, I give the opinion of the guy who believes in magic, and myths, and relies on insults all the attention it deserves.

You are the one that cannot perceive what a Spirit is. That is not an insult just a fact.

"Pot meet kettle".

Now your just spewing gibberish.

No I am simply giving you the opportunity to you as you show with each of your own posts what sort of a hypocrite you are.

Well, you're failing miserably. Thanks for playing.

You are the one that fails to recognize or does not understand what a spirit is.

spir·it
ˈspirit/
noun
noun: spirit; plural noun: spirits

1. 1.
   the nonphysical part of a person that is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
   "we seek a harmony between body and spirit"
   synonyms: soul, psyche, (inner) self, inner being, inner man/woman, mind, ego, id;
   pneuma
   "harmony between body and spirit"
   antonyms: body, flesh
   • the nonphysical part of a person regarded as a person's true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation.
     "a year after he left, his spirit is still present"
   • the nonphysical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a ghost.
     synonyms: ghost, presence;
     informalspook
     "a spirit haunts the island"
   • a supernatural being.
     "shrines to nature spirits"
   • short for Holy Spirit.
     noun: Spirit; noun: the Spirit
   • archaic
     a highly refined substance or fluid thought to govern vital phenomena.
2. 2.
   those qualities regarded as forming the definitive or typical elements in the character of a person, nation, or group or in the thought and attitudes of a particular period.
   "the university is a symbol of the nation's egalitarian spirit"
   synonyms: ethos, prevailing tendency, motivating force, essence, quintessence; More
   atmosphere, mood, feeling, climate;
   attitudes, beliefs, principles, standards, ethics
   "the spirit of the age"
   • a person identified with their most prominent mental or moral characteristics or with their role in a group or movement.
     "he was a leading spirit in the conference"
   • a specified emotion or mood, especially one prevailing at a particular time.
     "I hope the team will build on this spirit of confidence"
   • a person's mood.
     "the warm weather lifted everyone's spirits after the winter"
     synonyms: mood, frame of mind, state of mind, emotional state, humor, temper
     "she was in good spirits when I left"
   • the quality of courage, energy, and determination or assertiveness.
     "his visitors admired his spirit and good temper"
     synonyms: morale, esprit de corps More
     "team spirit"
     courage, bravery, pluck, valor, strength of character, fortitude, backbone, mettle, stoutheartedness, determination, resolution, resolve, fight, grit;
     informalguts, spunk, sand, moxie
     "his spirit never failed him"
     enthusiasm, eagerness, keenness, liveliness, vivacity, vivaciousness, animation, energy, verve, vigor, dynamism, zest, dash, elan, panache, sparkle, exuberance, gusto, brio, pep, fervor, zeal, fire, passion;
     informalget-up-and-go
     "they played with great spirit"
   • the attitude or intentions with which someone undertakes or regards something.
     "he confessed in a spirit of self-respect, not defiance"
     synonyms: attitude, frame of mind, way of thinking, point of view, outlook, thoughts, ideas
     "that's the spirit"
   • the real meaning or the intention behind something as opposed to its strict verbal interpretation.
     "the rule had been broken in spirit if not in letter"
     synonyms: real/true meaning, true intention, essence, substance
     "the spirit of the law"
3. 3.
   strong distilled liquor such as brandy, whiskey, gin, or rum.
   synonyms: strong liquor/drink; More
   informal hard stuff, firewater, hooch
   "he drinks spirits"
   • a volatile liquid, especially a fuel, prepared by distillation.
     "aviation spirit"
   • archaic
     a solution of volatile components extracted from something, typically by distillation or by solution in alcohol.
     "spirits of turpentine"

verb
verb: spirit; 3rd person present: spirits; past tense: spirited; past participle: spirited; gerund or present participle: spiriting

1. 1.
   convey rapidly and secretly.
   "stolen cows were spirited away some distance to prevent detection"

Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French, from Latin spiritus ‘breath, spirit,’ from spirare ‘breathe.’

And the only two of those that are real, are the last two.

 

[ding]

"Sun" meaning congregation of righteousness (hosts of heaven created to assist humans in overcoming). Whilst 'sun' is referring generally to illicit worship. "Moon", 'moon' is what old coinage/money/wealth again an un-righteous aspect and a righteous aspect. Do some homework.

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

That's rich. You believe in magic and fairy tales, and you are going to talk to me like I'm the child?

I'm not calling you a child, but I do think you are bigoted and that is either due to a mental deficiency, or a infantile view of the world based on ignorance.

I'm bigoted because I prefer to live in a world of rationality, and reason, instead of myth, and baseless belief? Okay.

No. You are bigoted because you are biased. You are biased because you are subjective and not objective.

 

[ding]

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

You mean like the fact that Kohlberg only used white male subjects? Or the fact that Kohblerg's theory completely ignores the fact that one's perspective on moral values change when faced with a moral dilemma (choose between the death of a loved one, or the death of a baby). The fact is that Kohblerg's theories were abandoned ages ago, because they were dimply not equipped to handle how people react in normal daily decisions. But, you know, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about...

Perhaps if you had tapped the wellspring of Dinks knowledge... Google; over that tawdry "formal education" thingy...

Yeah...you'll notice he didn't fire right back with a response. He needs to go Google Kohlberg, to try and find a suitable response...

In the meantime it should be noted that theologists do still rely on Kohlberg's studies in many of their lectures on ethical calculus. To be honest, though, more modern ethicists, such as Kowalski have done a much better job of refining methods of decision making that can be applied to everyday decisions.

Or it could be that I am reading the previous pages for the comments I missed and just commented on, Einstein.

 

[Czernobog]

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

That's rich. You believe in magic and fairy tales, and you are going to talk to me like I'm the child?

I'm not calling you a child, but I do think you are bigoted and that is either due to a mental deficiency, or a infantile view of the world based on ignorance.

I'm bigoted because I prefer to live in a world of rationality, and reason, instead of myth, and baseless belief? Okay.

No. You are bigoted because you are biased. You are biased because you are subjective and not objective.

Oh. What? You decided to run away from Kohberg, when you were exposed for, again, not knowing what the fuck you were talking about? Go. Away. Child.

 

[RodISHI]

You are the one that cannot perceive what a Spirit is. That is not an insult just a fact.

"Pot meet kettle".

Now your just spewing gibberish.

No I am simply giving you the opportunity to you as you show with each of your own posts what sort of a hypocrite you are.

Well, you're failing miserably. Thanks for playing.

You are the one that fails to recognize or does not understand what a spirit is.

spir·it
ˈspirit/
noun
noun: spirit; plural noun: spirits

1. 1.
   the nonphysical part of a person that is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
   "we seek a harmony between body and spirit"
   synonyms: soul, psyche, (inner) self, inner being, inner man/woman, mind, ego, id;
   pneuma
   "harmony between body and spirit"
   antonyms: body, flesh
   • the nonphysical part of a person regarded as a person's true self and as capable of surviving physical death or separation.
     "a year after he left, his spirit is still present"
   • the nonphysical part of a person manifested as an apparition after their death; a ghost.
     synonyms: ghost, presence;
     informalspook
     "a spirit haunts the island"
   • a supernatural being.
     "shrines to nature spirits"
   • short for Holy Spirit.
     noun: Spirit; noun: the Spirit
   • archaic
     a highly refined substance or fluid thought to govern vital phenomena.
2. 2.
   those qualities regarded as forming the definitive or typical elements in the character of a person, nation, or group or in the thought and attitudes of a particular period.
   "the university is a symbol of the nation's egalitarian spirit"
   synonyms: ethos, prevailing tendency, motivating force, essence, quintessence; More
   atmosphere, mood, feeling, climate;
   attitudes, beliefs, principles, standards, ethics
   "the spirit of the age"
   • a person identified with their most prominent mental or moral characteristics or with their role in a group or movement.
     "he was a leading spirit in the conference"
   • a specified emotion or mood, especially one prevailing at a particular time.
     "I hope the team will build on this spirit of confidence"
   • a person's mood.
     "the warm weather lifted everyone's spirits after the winter"
     synonyms: mood, frame of mind, state of mind, emotional state, humor, temper
     "she was in good spirits when I left"
   • the quality of courage, energy, and determination or assertiveness.
     "his visitors admired his spirit and good temper"
     synonyms: morale, esprit de corps More
     "team spirit"
     courage, bravery, pluck, valor, strength of character, fortitude, backbone, mettle, stoutheartedness, determination, resolution, resolve, fight, grit;
     informalguts, spunk, sand, moxie
     "his spirit never failed him"
     enthusiasm, eagerness, keenness, liveliness, vivacity, vivaciousness, animation, energy, verve, vigor, dynamism, zest, dash, elan, panache, sparkle, exuberance, gusto, brio, pep, fervor, zeal, fire, passion;
     informalget-up-and-go
     "they played with great spirit"
   • the attitude or intentions with which someone undertakes or regards something.
     "he confessed in a spirit of self-respect, not defiance"
     synonyms: attitude, frame of mind, way of thinking, point of view, outlook, thoughts, ideas
     "that's the spirit"
   • the real meaning or the intention behind something as opposed to its strict verbal interpretation.
     "the rule had been broken in spirit if not in letter"
     synonyms: real/true meaning, true intention, essence, substance
     "the spirit of the law"
3. 3.
   strong distilled liquor such as brandy, whiskey, gin, or rum.
   synonyms: strong liquor/drink; More
   informal hard stuff, firewater, hooch
   "he drinks spirits"
   • a volatile liquid, especially a fuel, prepared by distillation.
     "aviation spirit"
   • archaic
     a solution of volatile components extracted from something, typically by distillation or by solution in alcohol.
     "spirits of turpentine"

verb
verb: spirit; 3rd person present: spirits; past tense: spirited; past participle: spirited; gerund or present participle: spiriting

1. 1.
   convey rapidly and secretly.
   "stolen cows were spirited away some distance to prevent detection"

Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French, from Latin spiritus ‘breath, spirit,’ from spirare ‘breathe.’

And the only two of those that are real, are the last two.

Again you speak from the lack of your ability to perceive and yet you attempted to use the written word in your haste to attempt to disprove what you cannot perceive.

 

[ding]

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

That's rich. You believe in magic and fairy tales, and you are going to talk to me like I'm the child?

I'm not calling you a child, but I do think you are bigoted and that is either due to a mental deficiency, or a infantile view of the world based on ignorance.

I'm bigoted because I prefer to live in a world of rationality, and reason, instead of myth, and baseless belief? Okay.

No, you're bigoted because you hate people of faith. I am an agnostic. I don't believe in God, nor do I believe there is no God. There simply is no evidence either way. However, I treat atheists (who are reasonable and respectful) and those of faith (who are likewise reasonable and respectful) with respect. I don't denigrate anyone for their belief, or lack thereof. It is only the bigots (from either side of the argument) who do that. Thus, you are a bigot.

I don't hate anyone. That is Ding's thing.

Who do I hate and why do you believe I hate them?

 

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I suggest you look at sociopaths and their behavior before you make such an ignorant statement.

Soooo...you think that the mentally ill, and unbalanced are evil? Really???? And you call me bigoted?!? Huh...

A sociopath has the ability to CHOOSE. They simply don't care that their victim is suffering. They only care about their pleasure. There are high functioning sociopaths out there who are able to choose to not harm people, they get their jollies in other ways, but it is always a choice. Like I said, you look up definitions on wiki but you don't understand them. I'm a PhD geologist, and my wife is a PhD psychologist. We speak about science AS scientists.

And as one PhD to another you also make a lot of presumptions about others. Before you ask, psychiatry.

Then, an MD how it it that don't understand sociopathic behavior? Your claim is refuted by your lack of knowledge.

How is that you do not understand sociopathy is a disease?

You have it.

 

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Soooo...you think that the mentally ill, and unbalanced are evil? Really???? And you call me bigoted?!? Huh...

A sociopath has the ability to CHOOSE. They simply don't care that their victim is suffering. They only care about their pleasure. There are high functioning sociopaths out there who are able to choose to not harm people, they get their jollies in other ways, but it is always a choice. Like I said, you look up definitions on wiki but you don't understand them. I'm a PhD geologist, and my wife is a PhD psychologist. We speak about science AS scientists.

And as one PhD to another you also make a lot of presumptions about others. Before you ask, psychiatry.

Then, an MD how it it that don't understand sociopathic behavior? Your claim is refuted by your lack of knowledge.

How is that you do not understand sociopathy is a disease?

You have it.

He may... but you almost certainly do.

 

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"Sun" meaning congregation of righteousness (hosts of heaven created to assist humans in overcoming). Whilst 'sun' is referring generally to illicit worship. "Moon", 'moon' is what old coinage/money/wealth again an un-righteous aspect and a righteous aspect. Do some homework.

Ahhh...there it is...

This is statement 'YOU' make is because of your limitations, your mind cannot contain truth and the truth is way beyond your ability to comprehend when it is given to you. If you can't get to first base you will not be able to get to second or the third. You seem to think for some reason you have the ability to jump past that all and get to where home base is. A child can understand that can you?

Even a child would realize that he starts standing on home base; And effectively has to go nowhere, in order to get to where that place is.

Wow, that is pretty deep. Someone should tell that to Dr. Lawrence Kohlberg who did the seminal work on the morality progression where he scientifically identified six stages of morality progression. Five of which do not start on home base. Maybe we can ask Dr. Czernobog his opinion on Kohlberg's work. I'm sure he can do a quick google search and pretend to understand it.

You mean like the fact that Kohlberg only used white male subjects? Or the fact that Kohblerg's theory completely ignores the fact that one's perspective on moral values change when faced with a moral dilemma (choose between the death of a loved one, or the death of a baby). The fact is that Kohblerg's theories were abandoned ages ago, because they were simply not equipped to handle how people react in normal daily decisions. But, you know, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about...

See, this is what happens when a person with a minimum education who surfs the net, and thinks he knows a lot comes face to face with people who have actually spent their lives studying a subject.

I see that you are practicing your critical theory again. Let's test this, shall we? You have just basically discredited Kohlberg's work and I will assume his findings, right? So are you telling me that it is unusual for people to progress in morality as they age? Do you believe that makes sense? Is that what you have personally observed?