Scientists Suggest That The Universe Knew

[Hollie]

"The Creation Museum is lying for jesus when they show that dinosaurs walked on earth with humans."

It's you lying against Jesus as the soft tissue fossil evidence shows dinosaurs walked the Earth with humans. History shows that dinosaurs became extinct due to the global flood and being hunted to extinction by humans. Practically, every ancient civilization has some sort of art depicting giant reptilian creatures. Examples are Roman mosaics, Mayan pottery, and Babylonian city walls.

“the soft tissue fossil evidence shows dinosaurs walked the Earth with humans.”

Nonsense.

The soft tissue fossils show that it wasn't that long ago.

If the dinosaurs were extinct, then how did the ancient people create illustrations that follow how they looked like through our reconstructions?

Let's face it. You cannot explain while the Bible, creation science, and I can explain.

You don't have a reference to where that rock came from. Was it a recent grade school art project?

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I don't make up stories like the universe was infinite and is now 13.7 billion years old and Earth 4.5 billion years old. That's what bugging you because you believe in bullsh*t.

It's always been around 6,000 years old and these stones show humans lived with dinosaurs. It means your billions timeline is wrong.

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The Ica Stones: Proving mankind Coexisted with Dinosaurs

The Ica Stones are a collection of thousands of stones discovered in modern-day Peru, which directly contradict mainstream history. The Ica Stones depict

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"Ancient-code.com"

You're joking, right?

 

[Hollie]

….that human beings would be along soon.



1.There’s another way to put that: government school grads will bridle if that were to be put in terms of the existence of God, or a Creator, but when scientists point out that far too many examples of the universe seemingly designed to support the survival of humanity……it boils down to just that.



2. Freeman John Dyson (15 December 1923 – 28 February 2020) was an English-born American physicist, mathematician, and futurist, famous for his work in quantum mechanics, nuclear weapons design and policy, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. He was the winner of the Templeton Prize in the year 2000. Freeman Dyson - Wikiquote

“The more I examine the universe and the details of its architecture, the more evidence I find that the universe in some sense must have known we were coming.”― Freeman John Dyson




3. If one were subject to, and subscribed to, government school indoctrination, the subtext was how terrible America is, and how imperative it is to destroy our heritage, tradition and, most of all, religion. The name for this attempt is ‘neo-Marxism.’ And atheism is your entrée into acceptance. But the facts revealed by physicists such as Dyson refute that….but you won’t be taught that anywhere but here.




4. Another physicist, an American one, Alan Lightman, wrote in Harper’s Magazine The accidental universe: Science's crisis of faith, http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/12/0083720, which included the following:

“Theoretical physicists, on the other hand, are not satisfied with observing the universe. They want to know why. They want to explain all the properties of the universe in terms of a few fundamental principles and parameters. These fundamental principles, in turn, lead to the “laws of nature,” which govern the behavior of all matter and energy.

…according to various calculations, if the values of some of the fundamental parameters of our universe were a little larger or a little smaller, life could not have arisen. For example, if the nuclear force were a few percentage points stronger than it actually is, then all the hydrogen atoms in the infant universe would have fused with other hydrogen atoms to make helium, and there would be no hydrogen left. No hydrogen means no water. Although we are far from certain about what conditions are necessary for life, most biologists believe that water is necessary.

On the other hand, if the nuclear force were substantially weaker than what it actually is, then the complex atoms needed for biology could not hold together.
As another example, if the relationship between the strengths of the gravitational force and the electromagnetic force were not close to what it is, then the cosmos would not harbor any stars that explode and spew out life-supporting chemical elements into space or any other stars that form planets. Both kinds of stars are required for the emergence of life. The strengths of the basic forces and certain other fundamental parameters in our universe appear to be “fine-tuned” to allow the existence of life.

The recognition of this fine tuning led British physicist Brandon Carter to articulate what he called the anthropic principle, which states that the universe must have the parameters it does because we are here to observe it. Actually, the word anthropic, from the Greek for “man,” is a misnomer: if these fundamental parameters were much different from what they are, it is not only human beings who would not exist. No life of any kind would exist.”



Of course you atheists can ignore the facts.....the science.....or, just have an epiphany.

It's easy to ignore your usual, silly collection of cut and paste "quotes"

 

[Hollie]

….that human beings would be along soon.



1.There’s another way to put that: government school grads will bridle if that were to be put in terms of the existence of God, or a Creator, but when scientists point out that far too many examples of the universe seemingly designed to support the survival of humanity……it boils down to just that.



2. Freeman John Dyson (15 December 1923 – 28 February 2020) was an English-born American physicist, mathematician, and futurist, famous for his work in quantum mechanics, nuclear weapons design and policy, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. He was the winner of the Templeton Prize in the year 2000. Freeman Dyson - Wikiquote

“The more I examine the universe and the details of its architecture, the more evidence I find that the universe in some sense must have known we were coming.”― Freeman John Dyson




3. If one were subject to, and subscribed to, government school indoctrination, the subtext was how terrible America is, and how imperative it is to destroy our heritage, tradition and, most of all, religion. The name for this attempt is ‘neo-Marxism.’ And atheism is your entrée into acceptance. But the facts revealed by physicists such as Dyson refute that….but you won’t be taught that anywhere but here.




4. Another physicist, an American one, Alan Lightman, wrote in Harper’s Magazine The accidental universe: Science's crisis of faith, http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/12/0083720, which included the following:

“Theoretical physicists, on the other hand, are not satisfied with observing the universe. They want to know why. They want to explain all the properties of the universe in terms of a few fundamental principles and parameters. These fundamental principles, in turn, lead to the “laws of nature,” which govern the behavior of all matter and energy.

…according to various calculations, if the values of some of the fundamental parameters of our universe were a little larger or a little smaller, life could not have arisen. For example, if the nuclear force were a few percentage points stronger than it actually is, then all the hydrogen atoms in the infant universe would have fused with other hydrogen atoms to make helium, and there would be no hydrogen left. No hydrogen means no water. Although we are far from certain about what conditions are necessary for life, most biologists believe that water is necessary.

On the other hand, if the nuclear force were substantially weaker than what it actually is, then the complex atoms needed for biology could not hold together.
As another example, if the relationship between the strengths of the gravitational force and the electromagnetic force were not close to what it is, then the cosmos would not harbor any stars that explode and spew out life-supporting chemical elements into space or any other stars that form planets. Both kinds of stars are required for the emergence of life. The strengths of the basic forces and certain other fundamental parameters in our universe appear to be “fine-tuned” to allow the existence of life.

The recognition of this fine tuning led British physicist Brandon Carter to articulate what he called the anthropic principle, which states that the universe must have the parameters it does because we are here to observe it. Actually, the word anthropic, from the Greek for “man,” is a misnomer: if these fundamental parameters were much different from what they are, it is not only human beings who would not exist. No life of any kind would exist.”



Of course you atheists can ignore the facts.....the science.....or, just have an epiphany.

Is this the kind of quackery that you learned in hom skooll? We don't know so it means it's an invisible guy who cares what we do? Um... no. It's only a theory until properly proven otherwise.

Human Evolution Evidence from the Smithsonian.

Those are actual physicists being quoted.....compared with the windbag you have been exposed as.



BTW.....I'm an Ivy League grad.

And you?

The Benny Hinn Sunday skool is not Ivy League.

 

[Wuwei]

"The Creation Museum is lying for jesus when they show that dinosaurs walked on earth with humans."

It's you lying against Jesus as the soft tissue fossil evidence shows dinosaurs walked the Earth with humans. History shows that dinosaurs became extinct due to the global flood and being hunted to extinction by humans. Practically, every ancient civilization has some sort of art depicting giant reptilian creatures. Examples are Roman mosaics, Mayan pottery, and Babylonian city walls.

“the soft tissue fossil evidence shows dinosaurs walked the Earth with humans.”

Nonsense.

The soft tissue fossils show that it wasn't that long ago.

If the dinosaurs were extinct, then how did the ancient people create illustrations that follow how they looked like through our reconstructions?

Let's face it. You cannot explain while the Bible, creation science, and I can explain.

You don't have a reference to where that rock came from. Was it a recent grade school art project?

.

I don't make up stories like the universe was infinite and is now 13.7 billion years old and Earth 4.5 billion years old. That's what bugging you because you believe in bullsh*t.

It's always been around 6,000 years old and these stones show humans lived with dinosaurs. It means your billions timeline is wrong.

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The Ica Stones: Proving mankind Coexisted with Dinosaurs

The Ica Stones are a collection of thousands of stones discovered in modern-day Peru, which directly contradict mainstream history. The Ica Stones depict

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Your second reference states:

According to Carbon 14 studies made by the Autonomous University of Madrid in 2003, Spanish Researchers Felix Arenas and Maria del Carmen Olazar determined that they are between 60,000 and 100,000 years old.​

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In other images, you can appreciate the process of blood transfusions performed on a pregnant woman and even organ transplants (kidney, heart) among other things. Other depictions found on the Ica Stones illustrate what appears to be the application of anesthetic gas in a Caesarean section; others appear to depict –even though many claim it’s impossible– the transplant of cerebral hemispheres, the use of electromagnetic energy, pyramids, space travel, men looking at the stars with binoculars, the study of ancient petroglyphs and most shockingly maps of our planet as it was 13 million years ago.​

The stones are 60 to 100 K years. That is the noise limit for carbon dating. Your reference does not prove your point. Even though the stones are old, the carvings are contemporary.

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[danielpalos]

In the 1960s Javier Cabrera Darquea began to collect and popularize the stones, obtaining many of them from a farmer named Basilio Uschuya. Uschuya, after claiming them to be real ancient artifacts, admitted to creating the carvings he had sold and said he produced a patina by baking the stone in cow dung.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ica_stones

 

[james bond]

The stones are 60 to 100 K years. That is the noise limit for carbon dating. Your reference does not prove your point. Even though the stones are old, the carvings are contemporary.

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

"Evidence for:

1.) There are 15,000 or more of these stones in existence, each of which would have taken some time to carve. One estimate put the total time to carve all the stones at 375,000 working hours. That would be 12 hours a day, seven days a week for about 85 years! Only two modern-day Peruvians, Basilio and Irma, claim to have carved any stones. It seems impossible for them to have had the time to carve all 15,000 stones.

2.) Irma was asked about where she got the stones to make the carvings. She showed the interviewer a couple of small pits in the ground where she had dug out the raw stones. She then proceeded to dig for another stone and removed quite a bit of earth before finding one. She explained that the stones that she carved where about the size of an orange. However, many of the stones are larger and some of them are quite large, about 1,000 pounds. It would be impossible for all of the stones to have come from the small pits.

3.) It is illegal in Peru to sell ancient artifacts. Those caught can be punished by a long, hard jail sentence. If Basilio and Irma had admitted to finding the stones that they sold, they would face prosecution. This would be a strong motive for lying to stay out of jail.

4.) Many of the Ica Stones where found in the early 1960's when a flooding of the Ica River uncovered a large number of them. Most of the other stones have been found in graves by local farmers, graves robbers, or anthropologists. Some features of dinosaurs were not known to modern science until recently. It wasn't until 1975 that the Brontosaurus was displayed with the correct skull and renamed Apatosaurus. It also wasn't until more recently that dinosaur skeletons were displayed with their tails up and heads down when walking. Recent fossil finds also show crests on their heads and ridges on theirs backs. The Ica Stones have the right head on the Apatosaurus, the heads and tails displayed correctly, and head crests and back ridges, even though they predate the modern findings!

5.) Other Peruvian artifacts, e.g. Nazca Lines, pottery, textiles, and figurines, depict dinosaurs as well. The stones have been found together with other artifacts in ancient graves. It is clear that the ancient Peruvians had a fascination with dinosaurs. This suggests that they may indeed have lived together about 1,000 years ago.

6.) There is evidence of men and dinosaurs living together from around the world. There are even modern-day sightings of dinosaurs, pterodactyls, and plesiosaurs. This suggests that men and dinosaurs are living together today!

7.) The modern-day forgeries are relatively easy for an experienced person to pick out. Dr. Cabrera knew about the faked carvings and said that he could spot them easily. After contracting with Basilio to make a stone, Dr. Dennis Swift could see obvious differences between his stone and the stones in the museums.

8.) Finally, although some examinations have found carvings of modern origin, other examinations show carvings that are ancient. The examinations that claim the carvings to be of modern origin were probably examinations of the faked stones! These show metal flakes left by hacksaw blades, a bright surface in the grooves, and some artificial aging. Other examinations of the genuine stones have shown none of the distinguishing characteristics of the modern-day forged stones. What they did find was stones that were covered with a layer of patina, or mineralization, both on the surface of the stones and in the grooves. They also found layers of biological varnish produced by algae or bacteria. These same layers of patina and varnish are found on other artifacts found in the area. Some of the carvings were obscured by the thick layers of patina and varnish. It generally takes many hundreds of years to account for this much buildup in the arid environment of Peru."

 

[Wuwei]

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

What the stones do prove is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old. Not 6,000 years as creationists believe.

C14 dating with the best equipment has a noise limit of around 80 to 100 thousand years. In other words, an object that has no C14 at all will still register the noise limit, whether it's dinosaur tissue, diamonds, or rocks.

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[danielpalos]

The stones are 60 to 100 K years. That is the noise limit for carbon dating. Your reference does not prove your point. Even though the stones are old, the carvings are contemporary.

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

"Evidence for:

1.) There are 15,000 or more of these stones in existence, each of which would have taken some time to carve. One estimate put the total time to carve all the stones at 375,000 working hours. That would be 12 hours a day, seven days a week for about 85 years! Only two modern-day Peruvians, Basilio and Irma, claim to have carved any stones. It seems impossible for them to have had the time to carve all 15,000 stones.

2.) Irma was asked about where she got the stones to make the carvings. She showed the interviewer a couple of small pits in the ground where she had dug out the raw stones. She then proceeded to dig for another stone and removed quite a bit of earth before finding one. She explained that the stones that she carved where about the size of an orange. However, many of the stones are larger and some of them are quite large, about 1,000 pounds. It would be impossible for all of the stones to have come from the small pits.

3.) It is illegal in Peru to sell ancient artifacts. Those caught can be punished by a long, hard jail sentence. If Basilio and Irma had admitted to finding the stones that they sold, they would face prosecution. This would be a strong motive for lying to stay out of jail.

4.) Many of the Ica Stones where found in the early 1960's when a flooding of the Ica River uncovered a large number of them. Most of the other stones have been found in graves by local farmers, graves robbers, or anthropologists. Some features of dinosaurs were not known to modern science until recently. It wasn't until 1975 that the Brontosaurus was displayed with the correct skull and renamed Apatosaurus. It also wasn't until more recently that dinosaur skeletons were displayed with their tails up and heads down when walking. Recent fossil finds also show crests on their heads and ridges on theirs backs. The Ica Stones have the right head on the Apatosaurus, the heads and tails displayed correctly, and head crests and back ridges, even though they predate the modern findings!

5.) Other Peruvian artifacts, e.g. Nazca Lines, pottery, textiles, and figurines, depict dinosaurs as well. The stones have been found together with other artifacts in ancient graves. It is clear that the ancient Peruvians had a fascination with dinosaurs. This suggests that they may indeed have lived together about 1,000 years ago.

6.) There is evidence of men and dinosaurs living together from around the world. There are even modern-day sightings of dinosaurs, pterodactyls, and plesiosaurs. This suggests that men and dinosaurs are living together today!

7.) The modern-day forgeries are relatively easy for an experienced person to pick out. Dr. Cabrera knew about the faked carvings and said that he could spot them easily. After contracting with Basilio to make a stone, Dr. Dennis Swift could see obvious differences between his stone and the stones in the museums.

8.) Finally, although some examinations have found carvings of modern origin, other examinations show carvings that are ancient. The examinations that claim the carvings to be of modern origin were probably examinations of the faked stones! These show metal flakes left by hacksaw blades, a bright surface in the grooves, and some artificial aging. Other examinations of the genuine stones have shown none of the distinguishing characteristics of the modern-day forged stones. What they did find was stones that were covered with a layer of patina, or mineralization, both on the surface of the stones and in the grooves. They also found layers of biological varnish produced by algae or bacteria. These same layers of patina and varnish are found on other artifacts found in the area. Some of the carvings were obscured by the thick layers of patina and varnish. It generally takes many hundreds of years to account for this much buildup in the arid environment of Peru."

Sort of like tax evasion?

 

[james bond]

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

What the stones do prove is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old. Not 6,000 years as creationists believe.

C14 dating with the best equipment has a noise limit of around 80 to 100 thousand years. In other words, an object that has no C14 at all will still register the noise limit, whether it's dinosaur tissue, diamonds, or rocks.

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What the authentic stones show is humans lived with dinosaurs which disproves evolution. Just admit you were caught in a lie.

 

[james bond]

Sort of like tax evasion?

Let's not forget this travesty lol. Lucy was shown to be a chimp.

The ica stones are just part of the evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together which disproves evolution. Plenty more such as not enough seafloor layers, earth's magnetic field decaying faster than thought, not enough sodium in the sea and more. Evolution is a huge lie than only fools believe in. There is no scientific evidence for it.

 

[danielpalos]

Sort of like tax evasion?

Let's not forget this travesty lol. Lucy was shown to be a chimp.

The ica stones are just part of the evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together which disproves evolution. Plenty more such as not enough seafloor layers, earth's magnetic field decaying faster than thought, not enough sodium in the sea and more. Evolution is a huge lie than only fools believe in. There is no scientific evidence for it.

About one percent of separation in the genome.

 

[james bond]

Sort of like tax evasion?

Let's not forget this travesty lol. Lucy was shown to be a chimp.

The ica stones are just part of the evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together which disproves evolution. Plenty more such as not enough seafloor layers, earth's magnetic field decaying faster than thought, not enough sodium in the sea and more. Evolution is a huge lie than only fools believe in. There is no scientific evidence for it.

About one percent of separation in the genome.

Doesn't mean squat. God used the same parts. Monkeys are still monkeys and humans are humans. Never the twain shall meet. Another evolutionary lie that fools continue to believe.

 

[Wuwei]

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

What the stones do prove is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old. Not 6,000 years as creationists believe.

C14 dating with the best equipment has a noise limit of around 80 to 100 thousand years. In other words, an object that has no C14 at all will still register the noise limit, whether it's dinosaur tissue, diamonds, or rocks.

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What the authentic stones show is humans lived with dinosaurs which disproves evolution. Just admit you were caught in a lie.

Dinosaurs became extinct many millions of years before man appeared. The C14 shows young earth creationism is clearly proven false.

 

[danielpalos]

Sort of like tax evasion?

Let's not forget this travesty lol. Lucy was shown to be a chimp.

The ica stones are just part of the evidence of humans and dinosaurs living together which disproves evolution. Plenty more such as not enough seafloor layers, earth's magnetic field decaying faster than thought, not enough sodium in the sea and more. Evolution is a huge lie than only fools believe in. There is no scientific evidence for it.

About one percent of separation in the genome.

Doesn't mean squat. God used the same parts. Monkeys are still monkeys and humans are humans. Never the twain shall meet. Another evolutionary lie that fools continue to believe.

Yes, it does. There is no rational reason for such close genetics without evolution. Only false witness bearing hypocrites continue to believe what they allege to believe.

 

[james bond]

No, we have found dinosaur fossils that still have soft tissue in them and C14 remaining. They still can be dated by C14 dating. How do you explain that?

As for your stones, soma do and soma don't. You haven't proved anything about your disclaim.

What the stones do prove is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old. Not 6,000 years as creationists believe.

C14 dating with the best equipment has a noise limit of around 80 to 100 thousand years. In other words, an object that has no C14 at all will still register the noise limit, whether it's dinosaur tissue, diamonds, or rocks.

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What the authentic stones show is humans lived with dinosaurs which disproves evolution. Just admit you were caught in a lie.

Dinosaurs became extinct many millions of years before man appeared. The C14 shows young earth creationism is clearly proven false.

You have no evidence of that while I do. More than Inca stones. The C14 dating, i.e. radiometric dating, in addition to the soft tissue remaining inside the fossil favors me and my side. You continue to have no explanation and continue to be a fool who believes in lies.

 

[james bond]

Yes, it does. There is no rational reason for such close genetics without evolution. Only false witness bearing hypocrites continue to believe what they allege to believe.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. God re-used the same parts. That's smart and makes sense for an intelligent creator. Unlike you, who is stupid, stupid, stupid and who continues to believe in lies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, it does. There is no rational reason for such close genetics without evolution. Only false witness bearing hypocrites continue to believe what they allege to believe.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. God re-used the same parts. That's smart and makes sense for an intelligent creator. Unlike you, who is stupid, stupid, stupid and who continues to believe in lies.

^^Put this stupid shit on ignore. Do we really want every thread in the science section to be a Bond masturbation thread?

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it does. There is no rational reason for such close genetics without evolution. Only false witness bearing hypocrites continue to believe what they allege to believe.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. God re-used the same parts. That's smart and makes sense for an intelligent creator. Unlike you, who is stupid, stupid, stupid and who continues to believe in lies.

Show us the relevant passages in the Holy Bible, usually false-witness bearer on these forums.

 

[Wuwei]

You have no evidence of that while I do. More than Inca stones. The C14 dating, i.e. radiometric dating

Your evidence is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old with C14 dating. Other radiometric data with long term isotopes show it's billions of years old. This is a fundamentally significant point that you have avoided.

You have no evidence of young earth creationism at all.

 

[james bond]

You have no evidence of that while I do. More than Inca stones. The C14 dating, i.e. radiometric dating

Your evidence is that the earth is at least 100,000 years old with C14 dating. Other radiometric data with long term isotopes show it's billions of years old. This is a fundamentally significant point that you have avoided.

You have no evidence of young earth creationism at all.

Sure I do. I can't help it if you do not understand archaeologic and scientific evidence. What have you presented? Nothing but worthless opinion.