Scott Walker plans to sign 20-week abortion ban

[Zoom-boing]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

It is barbaric to dismember a pre-born human being, you fucking idiot.

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

The retarded in you is strong.

Sucks your lunacy and hatred of women/obsession with uterus's will get you nowhere.

Giving birth isn't barbaric.

Dismembering an unborn human being is barbaric.

You actually needed that explained to you.

 

[Socialist]

This country was brought forward thanks to the left, like almost every other country.

Good Lord, an actual "true believer". Too funny.

I follow evidence and facts, you fail to provide any examples, since all right wing takeovers lead to cancerous disasters for working people.

 

[Socialist]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

It is barbaric to dismember a pre-born human being, you fucking idiot.

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

The retarded in you is strong.

Sucks your lunacy and hatred of women/obsession with uterus's will get you nowhere.

Giving birth isn't barbaric.

Dismembering an unborn human being is barbaric.

You actually needed that explained to you.

It's a fetus, not my fault you love fetuses so much, want one on a dinner plate?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Okay, if not at 20 weeks, when would it be reasonable to restrict abortions? Are partial birth abortions okay? Is it okay to abort a viable baby that has not been born yet?

Yep, and it's okay to abort after birth, depending on how damaged the neonate is, especially if it's suffering. Life is brutal, now you know.

How about if it's discovered that the baby is the result of rape of incest? Is it okay to "abort" it after birth?

There's no reason to kill a healthy infant, although humanity has time and again throughout history.

Turn the question on yourself, is it okay to abort rape and incest fetuses? If it is then you aren't Pro-Life.

 

[Zoom-boing]

It is barbaric to dismember a pre-born human being, you fucking idiot.

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

The retarded in you is strong.

Sucks your lunacy and hatred of women/obsession with uterus's will get you nowhere.

Giving birth isn't barbaric.

Dismembering an unborn human being is barbaric.

You actually needed that explained to you.

It's a fetus, not my fault you love fetuses so much, want one on a dinner plate?

Well, apparently you did need that explained to you.

 

[Wildman]

Fuck the idiots who support this...

you like killing babies ? your grandfather ol Joe Stalin was good at it too.

 

[Socialist]

Fuck the idiots who support this...

you like killing babies ? your grandfather ol Joe Stalin was good at it too.

Yeah, not like stalin made abortion illegal...
"In 1936 the Soviet Union made abortion illegal again, stemming largely from Joseph Stalin’s worries about population growth. The law that outlawed abortion did not only do just that, but rather contained several different decrees. The official title of the law was, “Decree on the Prohibition of Abortions, the Improvement of Material Aid to Women in Childbirth, the Establishment of State Assistance to Parents of Large Families, and the Extension of the Network of Lying-in Homes, Nursery schools and Kindergartens, the Tightening-up of Criminal Punishment for the Non-payment of Alimony, and on Certain Modifications in Divorce Legislation.” All of this was part of Stalin’s initiative to encourage population growth, as well as place a stronger emphasis on the importance of the family unit to communism.[15]"

 

[Vigilante]

And we expect these fucking murderers to understand? Yet, they'll protest and picket for a mass murderer to be not KILLED for his actions.... These are very disturbed individuals!

If you are truly Pro-Life, there are no exceptions, none, but you love abortion, and capital punishment, and war, as long as it kills the already living who oppose you.

Of course there is, just more of your Alinsky bullshit! Killing murders, and killing innocents is all the same to the socialist/Marxist/fascist/communist. We understand you people are pieces of human fecal matter!

 

[Wildman]

free healthcare, free education.

FREE ? did any one, a Conservative most likely, ever tell you there ain't no such thing as a free ride ?

 

[Socialist]

free healthcare, free education.

FREE ? did any one, a Conservative most likely, ever tell you there ain't no such thing as a free ride ?

We all pay taxes, it's a matter of what they go to, yes, nothing is truly "free" but universal healthcare and virtually free higher education benefits everyone, it's no question most industrialized countries have high taxes, strong labor unions, high wages..

 

[Votto]

Fuck the idiots who support this...

Gov. Scott Walker plans to sign a ban on abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy after Assembly lawmakers on Thursday easily approved the legislation.

The Assembly’s 61-34 approval came after emotional testimony from lawmakers.

Under the bill, doctors who terminate pregnancies after 20 weeks in non-emergency situations could be charged with a felony and face up to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The bill doesn’t provide exceptions for pregnancies conceived from a sexual assault or incest.

The bill was previously passed by the Senate. It now heads to Walker, who is expected to announce his candidacy for president on Monday. Walker spokeswoman Laurel Patrick said Walker plans to sign the bill, but she added she does not yet know when that will be.

Walker has long been a proponent of anti-abortion legislation, but during his re-election campaign last year he expressed support for leaving pregnancy decisions to women and their doctors.

That stance has drawn criticism from religious conservatives in recent months, prompting Walker to request the 20-week abortion ban with no exceptions for rape and incest.

During the debate, Assembly members from both parties detailed personal experiences with lost pregnancies and read letters from constituents with similar stories.

Rep. Joan Ballweg, R-Markesan, told a story about losing a daughter born prematurely — one of three miscarriages she experienced.

“Shouldn’t we defer or fall on the side of preventing a living being from feeling pain?” she said.

Protecting fetuses from pain was the chief aim of the legislation, Republican lawmakers agreed.

“To vote no on this bill is to classify certain children as subhuman,” said the bill’s author, Rep. Jesse Kremer, R-Kewaskum.

But Democratic lawmakers repeatedly argued that the decision should be left to mothers and doctors.

Rep. Terese Berceau, D-Madison, said lawmakers have no business making deeply personal decisions for women.

“Republicans have no business talking about small government when apparently it’s not too small to fit inside a uterus,” she said. “I feel that any woman who votes for this is truly a traitor to your gender.”

The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the Journal of the American Medical Association have concluded that evidence shows fetuses begin to feel pain during the third trimester — which begins at 27 weeks.

But the Assembly’s debate hinged mostly on whether the decision should be left to a mother and her doctor instead of lawmakers.

Rep. Chris Taylor, D-Madison, detailed her personal story about having more than one miscarriage.

“I didn’t need you there,” she said. “I needed some great medical care.”

Reps. Lisa Subeck, D-Madison, and Berceau said drawing a line at 20 weeks could force fetuses with significant health problems to be carried to full term.

Referring to a letter from a constituent who had had an abortion, Subeck said, “It was her choice not to put her baby through the pain of being born and suffering, not even able to get oxygen until it died.”

But Rep. Joe Sanfelippo, R-West Allis, said prohibiting fetuses from going through an “extremely excruciating” procedure was paramount.

“The bill protects children from being tortured and feeling pain,” he said. “That’s all this bill does.”

According to the most recent state Department of Health Services information, 89 of nearly 6,500 abortions performed in Wisconsin in 2013, or roughly 1 percent, occurred after the 20-week mark.

Fourteen states have passed abortion bans at 20 weeks or earlier, which depart from the standard established in the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. That ruling established a nationwide right to abortion but allowed states to restrict the procedures after the fetus reaches viability, the point where it could survive outside the womb. The ruling offered no legal definition of viability but said it could range from the 24th to 28th week of pregnancy.

Scott Walker plans to sign 20-week abortion ban Wsj
There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

He should wait till he is in the Oval Orifice where he can just churn out Executive Order after Executive Order.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Fuck the idiots who support this...

Gov. Scott Walker plans to sign a ban on abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy after Assembly lawmakers on Thursday easily approved the legislation.

The Assembly’s 61-34 approval came after emotional testimony from lawmakers.

Under the bill, doctors who terminate pregnancies after 20 weeks in non-emergency situations could be charged with a felony and face up to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The bill doesn’t provide exceptions for pregnancies conceived from a sexual assault or incest.

The bill was previously passed by the Senate. It now heads to Walker, who is expected to announce his candidacy for president on Monday. Walker spokeswoman Laurel Patrick said Walker plans to sign the bill, but she added she does not yet know when that will be.

Walker has long been a proponent of anti-abortion legislation, but during his re-election campaign last year he expressed support for leaving pregnancy decisions to women and their doctors.

That stance has drawn criticism from religious conservatives in recent months, prompting Walker to request the 20-week abortion ban with no exceptions for rape and incest.

During the debate, Assembly members from both parties detailed personal experiences with lost pregnancies and read letters from constituents with similar stories.

Rep. Joan Ballweg, R-Markesan, told a story about losing a daughter born prematurely — one of three miscarriages she experienced.

“Shouldn’t we defer or fall on the side of preventing a living being from feeling pain?” she said.

Protecting fetuses from pain was the chief aim of the legislation, Republican lawmakers agreed.

“To vote no on this bill is to classify certain children as subhuman,” said the bill’s author, Rep. Jesse Kremer, R-Kewaskum.

But Democratic lawmakers repeatedly argued that the decision should be left to mothers and doctors.

Rep. Terese Berceau, D-Madison, said lawmakers have no business making deeply personal decisions for women.

“Republicans have no business talking about small government when apparently it’s not too small to fit inside a uterus,” she said. “I feel that any woman who votes for this is truly a traitor to your gender.”

The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the Journal of the American Medical Association have concluded that evidence shows fetuses begin to feel pain during the third trimester — which begins at 27 weeks.

But the Assembly’s debate hinged mostly on whether the decision should be left to a mother and her doctor instead of lawmakers.

Rep. Chris Taylor, D-Madison, detailed her personal story about having more than one miscarriage.

“I didn’t need you there,” she said. “I needed some great medical care.”

Reps. Lisa Subeck, D-Madison, and Berceau said drawing a line at 20 weeks could force fetuses with significant health problems to be carried to full term.

Referring to a letter from a constituent who had had an abortion, Subeck said, “It was her choice not to put her baby through the pain of being born and suffering, not even able to get oxygen until it died.”

But Rep. Joe Sanfelippo, R-West Allis, said prohibiting fetuses from going through an “extremely excruciating” procedure was paramount.

“The bill protects children from being tortured and feeling pain,” he said. “That’s all this bill does.”

According to the most recent state Department of Health Services information, 89 of nearly 6,500 abortions performed in Wisconsin in 2013, or roughly 1 percent, occurred after the 20-week mark.

Fourteen states have passed abortion bans at 20 weeks or earlier, which depart from the standard established in the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. That ruling established a nationwide right to abortion but allowed states to restrict the procedures after the fetus reaches viability, the point where it could survive outside the womb. The ruling offered no legal definition of viability but said it could range from the 24th to 28th week of pregnancy.

Scott Walker plans to sign 20-week abortion ban Wsj
There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

He should wait till he is in the Oval Orifice where he can just churn out Executive Order after Executive Order.

The closest he could ever get would be the empty the wastebaskets, and that doesn't count as an EO...

 

[Wildman]

pieces of human fecal matter!

PIECES ? how about huge, huge piles of shit ?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And we expect these fucking murderers to understand? Yet, they'll protest and picket for a mass murderer to be not KILLED for his actions.... These are very disturbed individuals!

If you are truly Pro-Life, there are no exceptions, none, but you love abortion, and capital punishment, and war, as long as it kills the already living who oppose you.

Of course there is, just more of your Alinsky bullshit! Killing murders, and killing innocents is all the same to the socialist/Marxist/fascist/communist. We understand you people are pieces of human fecal matter!

See the Pope about being Pro-Life. He is, you aren't.

 

[Votto]

I think the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, about sums up abortion

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

Yeah, but you ignore the barbarity of murder. Go figure. What's even worse is your advocacy of eugenics.

 

[Mr. H.]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

It is barbaric to dismember a pre-born human being, you fucking idiot.

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

You're new here and likely have not read my personal account with the realities of abortion. I hesitate to retell it as it may just become more fodder for your inane rants.

When Mrs. H. had her first ultrasound, the attending physician pointed out several "markers" that he said were indicative of Down's Syndrome. He very nonchalantly told us to go down to the coffee shop and discuss our "options". We were shell-shocked and stunned.

So we took a break and sat across that table just staring at each other in disbelief. After several moments, my wife simply said "you take what life gives you", to which I replied "yup". And that was it.

So we went home and prepared ourselves for a life of extraordinary servitude to our child. We were emotionally gutted, but at the same time overjoyed at the prospect of having a child together. That's what some folks refer to as "love" and "respect" and "faith".

Now don't get me wrong, we're not your much maligned and hated "Bible Thumpers". I was born and raised Roman Catholic but by that time (20 years ago) I considered myself (and still do) Agnostic. My wife was then and still is Pagan.

So at the next scheduled ultrasound, the nurse told us that everything looked perfectly normal and that we should have no concerns at all. Were we jumping up and down high-fiving each other? Not in the least. Our attitude was "you take what life gives you".

And so 20 years on, that child who was the perfect candidate for abortion is a Sophomore at The Boston Conservatory dancing as she's danced since she first learned to walk.

I'll also add something that I didn't mention when I first posted this some years ago. Mrs. H. did have a miscarriage before this pregnancy. That really fucked with our heads. But in a different kind of way.

Responsibility, accountability, respect, faith. Concepts that many women have a hard time coping with. It's much easier just to flush such concerns down the toilet. Much much easier since Roe V Wade.

 

[Socialist]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

Yeah, but you ignore the barbarity of murder. Go figure. What's even worse is your advocacy of eugenics.

I would question anyone who would let a child be born with horrid defects when the fetus can be aborted.

 

[Socialist]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

It is barbaric to dismember a pre-born human being, you fucking idiot.

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

You're new here and likely have not read my personal account with the realities of abortion. I hesitate to retell it as it may just become more fodder for your inane rants.

When Mrs. H. had her first ultrasound, the attending physician pointed out several "markers" that he said were indicative of Down's Syndrome. He very nonchalantly told us to go down to the coffee shop and discuss our "options". We were shell-shocked and stunned.

So we took a break and sat across that table just staring at each other in disbelief. After several moments, my wife simply said "you take what life gives you", to which I replied "yup". And that was it.

So we went home and prepared ourselves for a life of extraordinary servitude to our child. We were emotionally gutted, but at the same time overjoyed at the prospect of having a child together. That's what some folks refer to as "love" and "respect" and "faith".

Now don't get me wrong, we're not your much maligned and hated "Bible Thumpers". I was born and raised Roman Catholic but by that time (20 years ago) I considered myself (and still do) Agnostic. My wife was then and still is Pagan.

So at the next scheduled ultrasound, the nurse told us that everything looked perfectly normal and that we should have no concerns at all. Were we jumping up and down high-fiving each other? Not in the least. Our attitude was "you take what life gives you".

And so 20 years on, that child who was the perfect candidate for abortion is a Sophomore at The Boston Conservatory dancing as she's danced since she first learned to walk.

I'll also add something that I didn't mention when I first posted this some years ago. Mrs. H. did have a miscarriage before this pregnancy. That really fucked with our heads. But in a different kind of way.

Responsibility, accountability, respect, faith. Concepts that many women have a hard time coping with. It's much easier just to flush such concerns down the toilet. Much much easier since Roe V Wade.

Still don't care, women will do what they want.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

Yeah, but you ignore the barbarity of murder. Go figure. What's even worse is your advocacy of eugenics.

I would question anyone who would let a child be born with horrid defects when the fetus can be aborted.

What about the children with down syndrome? Spina bifida? Club foot? On top of being a barbarian, you're a eugenicist.

I question your ethics, sir.