Scott Walker plans to sign 20-week abortion ban

[Soggy in NOLA]

Abortion is not a necessity...

Yep, you're no OBGYN. Most of of what is created never sees the light of day and that's nature, not our doing. And it's very much necessary, at times.

And should you wish to "respect life", then fucking pay up for you cheap bastards, conception to death...

Hey asshat, we do... it's called taking care of one's family. The cheap bastards are the dregs that keep plopping out kids and handing the taxpayer the bill.

 

[Unkotare]

Sucks for you. Roe vs wade bitch.

No, it "sucks" for the most innocent, vulnerable human beings who empty scumbags like you rejoice in killing.

 

[MACAULAY]

Good for Scott Walker and fuck Socialism.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Unless it's due to health complications there is no reason to wait longer than 20 weeks to murder a baby

 

[Care4all]

Okay, if not at 20 weeks, when would it be reasonable to restrict abortions? Are partial birth abortions okay? Is it okay to abort a viable baby that has not been born yet?

According to the Supreme court ruling, the State should have no "legal interest" in a woman's privacy when she is pregnant, until the baby to be, is viable", (can live outside of the womb on its own or with life support machines like incubators ), and Obstetricians say this is at 24 weeks to 26 or 28 weeks gestation?

I personally believe that by 20 weeks, any woman that chooses to abort, will have made that decision and done so, before the 20 weeks.

Those women, (for the most part), who have abortions after the 20 weeks, are doing so for medical reasons...

Banning partial birth abortions was a MISTAKE, and has had unintended consequences....most all women having partial birth abortions, was due to a defect in their child to be, where they have a form of encephalitis and the baby's head swells and grows to an extremely abnormal size, and the baby always dies when birthed, and sometimes the mother dies as well when birthing, depending on how big the baby's head has grown...

Partial birth abortion allowed the baby to be, to be born dead, but whole, if the disease is caught before 6-7 months or so.... these women can bury their dead baby, and mourn etc....

Now these women, when faced with their baby to be having this disease, are forced in to a c-section to abort, cutting and limiting their own body on future normal births, or the baby to be is cut up inside of her, before extracted....which IS STILL LEGAL..... the partial birth abortion was the more HUMANE way of medically taking care of this problem...BUT, good ole Congress used this as a voting wedge, and decided they knew better than the Mother to be and her Doctor.....

GOVERNMENT needs to stay out of this....they are not doctors, or future mother to B's.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Fuck the idiots who support this...

Gov. Scott Walker plans to sign a ban on abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy after Assembly lawmakers on Thursday easily approved the legislation.

The Assembly’s 61-34 approval came after emotional testimony from lawmakers.

Under the bill, doctors who terminate pregnancies after 20 weeks in non-emergency situations could be charged with a felony and face up to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

The bill doesn’t provide exceptions for pregnancies conceived from a sexual assault or incest.

The bill was previously passed by the Senate. It now heads to Walker, who is expected to announce his candidacy for president on Monday. Walker spokeswoman Laurel Patrick said Walker plans to sign the bill, but she added she does not yet know when that will be.

Walker has long been a proponent of anti-abortion legislation, but during his re-election campaign last year he expressed support for leaving pregnancy decisions to women and their doctors.

That stance has drawn criticism from religious conservatives in recent months, prompting Walker to request the 20-week abortion ban with no exceptions for rape and incest.

During the debate, Assembly members from both parties detailed personal experiences with lost pregnancies and read letters from constituents with similar stories.

Rep. Joan Ballweg, R-Markesan, told a story about losing a daughter born prematurely — one of three miscarriages she experienced.

“Shouldn’t we defer or fall on the side of preventing a living being from feeling pain?” she said.

Protecting fetuses from pain was the chief aim of the legislation, Republican lawmakers agreed.

“To vote no on this bill is to classify certain children as subhuman,” said the bill’s author, Rep. Jesse Kremer, R-Kewaskum.

But Democratic lawmakers repeatedly argued that the decision should be left to mothers and doctors.

Rep. Terese Berceau, D-Madison, said lawmakers have no business making deeply personal decisions for women.

“Republicans have no business talking about small government when apparently it’s not too small to fit inside a uterus,” she said. “I feel that any woman who votes for this is truly a traitor to your gender.”

The American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the Journal of the American Medical Association have concluded that evidence shows fetuses begin to feel pain during the third trimester — which begins at 27 weeks.

But the Assembly’s debate hinged mostly on whether the decision should be left to a mother and her doctor instead of lawmakers.

Rep. Chris Taylor, D-Madison, detailed her personal story about having more than one miscarriage.

“I didn’t need you there,” she said. “I needed some great medical care.”

Reps. Lisa Subeck, D-Madison, and Berceau said drawing a line at 20 weeks could force fetuses with significant health problems to be carried to full term.

Referring to a letter from a constituent who had had an abortion, Subeck said, “It was her choice not to put her baby through the pain of being born and suffering, not even able to get oxygen until it died.”

But Rep. Joe Sanfelippo, R-West Allis, said prohibiting fetuses from going through an “extremely excruciating” procedure was paramount.

“The bill protects children from being tortured and feeling pain,” he said. “That’s all this bill does.”

According to the most recent state Department of Health Services information, 89 of nearly 6,500 abortions performed in Wisconsin in 2013, or roughly 1 percent, occurred after the 20-week mark.

Fourteen states have passed abortion bans at 20 weeks or earlier, which depart from the standard established in the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. That ruling established a nationwide right to abortion but allowed states to restrict the procedures after the fetus reaches viability, the point where it could survive outside the womb. The ruling offered no legal definition of viability but said it could range from the 24th to 28th week of pregnancy.

Scott Walker plans to sign 20-week abortion ban Wsj
There are horrific birth defects that cannot even be tested for or detected until past 20 weeks. It is barbaric to force any woman to birth a child she does not want.

Good.

 

[HenryBHough]

Unless it's due to health complications there is no reason to wait longer than 20 weeks to murder a baby

Now be fair!

Postal service being what it is these days, Democrat women often have to wait 26 weeks for their orders from DNC HQ to be delivered.

 

[Dr Grump]

Another asshole that doesn't understand SYMBOLISM, I should know better, these FAGERAL can't think beyond voting for a lying, murderous, corrupt bitch, and an acknowledged Socialist who are fathers fought WWII against!

Oh, bullshit. Your 'symbolism' is nothing more than a strawman trying to weigh in on the emotion of the issue....IOW it's just bollocks....

 

[Vigilante]

Another asshole that doesn't understand SYMBOLISM, I should know better, these FAGERAL can't think beyond voting for a lying, murderous, corrupt bitch, and an acknowledged Socialist who are fathers fought WWII against!

Oh, bullshit. Your 'symbolism' is nothing more than a strawman trying to weigh in on the emotion of the issue....IOW it's just bollocks....

OK, YOU favor murder, feel better now?

 

[Dr Grump]

Another asshole that doesn't understand SYMBOLISM, I should know better, these FAGERAL can't think beyond voting for a lying, murderous, corrupt bitch, and an acknowledged Socialist who are fathers fought WWII against!

Oh, bullshit. Your 'symbolism' is nothing more than a strawman trying to weigh in on the emotion of the issue....IOW it's just bollocks....

OK, YOU favor murder, feel better now?

No, I favour no such thing.

 

[Vigilante]

Another asshole that doesn't understand SYMBOLISM, I should know better, these FAGERAL can't think beyond voting for a lying, murderous, corrupt bitch, and an acknowledged Socialist who are fathers fought WWII against!

Oh, bullshit. Your 'symbolism' is nothing more than a strawman trying to weigh in on the emotion of the issue....IOW it's just bollocks....

OK, YOU favor murder, feel better now?

No, I favour no such thing.

Perhaps you're evolving!