SD Governor To Tribes, Drop Road Blocks. Tribes say No.

This is interesting. The governor of SD thinks she has any control over the Indian sovereign nations in her state. She doesn't. The checkpoints are on Indian land. Sovereign and separate from the US. The governor has no jurisdiction.

They have the right to prevent people from catching the virus. They have a high rate of infections now. All they're trying to do is stop the rate of infection so people won't die.

The governor is threatening legal action. It will be interesting to see how this works out.


A highway isn't tribal land dude, lol
Sounds like a really good question for a court to decide.



The highway and cement might not be theirs, I don't know no one has provided any proof of that, the land that highway is on belongs to the Indians. It's their land.

If they didn't want the Indians to have any control of that highway they shouldn't have built it on Indian land.
You know nothing about rural highway right of way.
Our highway department in MN will remove any obstruction or fencing put up by property owners that intrudes into the right of way. That land belongs to the state. Even is marked as being so along many of our highways. Different than a utility easement which goes back to adjoining property owners if abandoned. Frequently we have idiots putting snowfencing up to force snowmobiles out of the ditch onto the roadway because some idiot doesn't want them crossing the end of their driveway. The state will force the property owner to remove or they will at owners expense.

Railways right of way are owned and policed by the Railroad companies.
That's all fine and good because all of the land involved is within the territorial taxing authority ownership of the United States. Indian Land is like another country. Still waiting for someone to show me the agreement signed when the Indians allowed the state to build across their land. If the state had the uncontested RIGHT OF WAY on those highways, then why didn't they just immediately remove the blockades!
Don't know the particulars of that tribe, but the Souix tribe near Twin Cities is working with the state and county to refurbish a heavily used highway that serves the richest casino in the Twin Cities. They wanted the new improvements.
They also probably have a vested interest in the casino. But again, that is THEIR CHOICE. In the case of said highways, they have opted to CLOSE THEM.
Not their choice on a state or US highway.
Off the right of way, yes.
OKAY then! Go take them blockades down then! Tell then damn injuns you're coming to just get out of your way.
Pretty sure the State highway department or State police will take care of that.
Thing is. If all business is closed on tribal land, no one is going to stop there. Only reason anyone goes to tribal land is for a casino or cheap smokes. One does not get the virus from cars doing 70 just passing through. It frankly is just a stupid position to block traffic, it accomplishes nothing.
Keeping the White Man away is never a bad idea.
Dude...
Did you just go IM2 on me?
:disbelief:
OH GOD NO! Don't wish that on me. I hope not. I'd have to pluck my eye out. I'll plead insanity due to extended covid shutdown acute cranial infarction syndrome (ECSACI).
Just giving you shit, but it did sound familiar. We usually agree on most topics.
Not downing the Indians, just think the blockade is pointless.
First the most part, the many tribes here have found the White man's weakness. One armed bandits. The white folks gladly donate at the casinos as long as there is an occasional winner. They have built new schools, civic centers, medical clinics, and taken advantage of tourism. More power to them. Unlike IM2 expecting reparations for generations to come.
 
This is interesting. The governor of SD thinks she has any control over the Indian sovereign nations in her state. She doesn't. The checkpoints are on Indian land. Sovereign and separate from the US. The governor has no jurisdiction.

They have the right to prevent people from catching the virus. They have a high rate of infections now. All they're trying to do is stop the rate of infection so people won't die.

The governor is threatening legal action. It will be interesting to see how this works out.


A highway isn't tribal land dude, lol
Sounds like a really good question for a court to decide.



The highway and cement might not be theirs, I don't know no one has provided any proof of that, the land that highway is on belongs to the Indians. It's their land.

If they didn't want the Indians to have any control of that highway they shouldn't have built it on Indian land.
You know nothing about rural highway right of way.
Our highway department in MN will remove any obstruction or fencing put up by property owners that intrudes into the right of way. That land belongs to the state. Even is marked as being so along many of our highways. Different than a utility easement which goes back to adjoining property owners if abandoned. Frequently we have idiots putting snowfencing up to force snowmobiles out of the ditch onto the roadway because some idiot doesn't want them crossing the end of their driveway. The state will force the property owner to remove or they will at owners expense.

Railways right of way are owned and policed by the Railroad companies.
That's all fine and good because all of the land involved is within the territorial taxing authority ownership of the United States. Indian Land is like another country. Still waiting for someone to show me the agreement signed when the Indians allowed the state to build across their land. If the state had the uncontested RIGHT OF WAY on those highways, then why didn't they just immediately remove the blockades!
Don't know the particulars of that tribe, but the Souix tribe near Twin Cities is working with the state and county to refurbish a heavily used highway that serves the richest casino in the Twin Cities. They wanted the new improvements.
They also probably have a vested interest in the casino. But again, that is THEIR CHOICE. In the case of said highways, they have opted to CLOSE THEM.
Not their choice on a state or US highway.
Off the right of way, yes.
OKAY then! Go take them blockades down then! Tell then damn injuns you're coming to just get out of your way.
Pretty sure the State highway department or State police will take care of that.
Thing is. If all business is closed on tribal land, no one is going to stop there. Only reason anyone goes to tribal land is for a casino or cheap smokes. One does not get the virus from cars doing 70 just passing through. It frankly is just a stupid position to block traffic, it accomplishes nothing.
Keeping the White Man away is never a bad idea.
Dude...
Did you just go IM2 on me?
:disbelief:
OH GOD NO! Don't wish that on me. I hope not. I'd have to pluck my eye out. I'll plead insanity due to extended covid shutdown acute cranial infarction syndrome (ECSACI).
Just giving you shit, but it did sound familiar. We usually agree on most topics.
Not downing the Indians, just think the blockade is pointless.
First the most part, the many tribes here have found the White man's weakness. One armed bandits. The white folks gladly donate at the casinos as long as there is an occasional winner. They have built new schools, civic centers, medical clinics, and taken advantage of tourism. More power to them. Unlike IM2 expecting reparations for generations to come.
Speaking of IM2, I happen to be very sensitive to the plight of the Indian. Most people have no idea how we lied, cheated, killed and swindled them. Then forced those left alive onto the most undesirable land we could find. Then if it later turned out there was something of value there too, tried to swindle that from them as well. The Black man had a piece of cake compared to the Indian. Even when we settled treaties with them, since they couldn't read english and we refused to write them in their tongue they could read, we read the treaties to them. And lied about what was in them.

So no, I don't begrudge them anything. If they want to block those roads, they get my benefit of the doubt until the courts settle the matter.
 
Indian territory is a sovereign nation even if the US gov has no respect for their allodial rights!
What, sovereign? Like in issuing their own passports, making their own treaties with other sovereign nations, represented at the UN, that sort of sovereignty?
 
Even when we settled treaties with them, since they couldn't read english and we refused to write them in their tongue they could read, we read the treaties to them. And lied about what was in them.
Lied about 'sovereignty' too, by the look.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yes, the same government that did all that, they still depend on for payouts.

Kind of like how Dems consistently lie to their constituents and keep them poor, yet Dems keep voting for them.

Maybe if the government actually lived up to its treaties the pay outs would not be necessary.
Exactly what agreement is being broke right now?

So you think all the broken treaties of the past have not affected the Native Americans to this day?

 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
 
This is interesting. The governor of SD thinks she has any control over the Indian sovereign nations in her state. She doesn't. The checkpoints are on Indian land. Sovereign and separate from the US. The governor has no jurisdiction.

They have the right to prevent people from catching the virus. They have a high rate of infections now. All they're trying to do is stop the rate of infection so people won't die.

The governor is threatening legal action. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

WAIT A MINUTE:
  • It's THEIR land.
  • Indian territory is a sovereign nation even if the US gov has no respect for their allodial rights!
  • They are simply practicing the very thing the US gov says it WANTS: social isolation and distancing.
  • Didn't New Mexico do this very thing, close down all roads in and out of Gallup, NM?
  • I'm betting no Chinese have headed into the Indian nations.
  • Why is the US gov always the most hypocritical? They are FOR everything that favors THEM, against anything which does not!
Fuck the governor. Indians stand firm.
Good post, except we're talking about the US highway here, not the tribal land itself.

I would hoping someone would point that out. State and Federal HWYs aren't funded by the tribes, they don't belong to the tribes.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
Nobody is whining, prick.
I pointed out that your link sucks.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
Nobody is whining, prick.
I pointed out that your link sucks.
There is nothing wrong with the link there is with you and the fact that you don't understand that you can allow a page through your ad blocker.

It's not my responsibility to only post links you will actually look at.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
Nobody is whining, prick.
I pointed out that your link sucks.
There is nothing wrong with the link there is with you and the fact that you don't understand that you can allow a page through your ad blocker.

It's not my responsibility to only post links you will actually look at.
I read my links.....and if I have to disable my adblocker or subcribe to the site, I use another source.
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
Nobody is whining, prick.
I pointed out that your link sucks.
There is nothing wrong with the link there is with you and the fact that you don't understand that you can allow a page through your ad blocker.

It's not my responsibility to only post links you will actually look at.
I read my links.....and if I have to disable my adblocker or subcribe to the site, I use another source.

Once again your problem not mine
 
“Sovereign nation” my ass. They suck on the teat of the Federal government.
you mean the government that has repeatedly lied to them since the establishment of the reservation system?

The government that has repeatedly violated treaties with Native Americans?

The government that did its best to perpetrate genocide on Native Americans?
Yep.....and everyone who has done that to Native Americans for the last 200 years is still alive and working in the government....so yes....you can blame everything that happened in the past 200 years on one Republican governor who has won the hearts of the people in her state because of her courage and leadership capabilities.
Can't read your link because it expects me to turn off my ad blocker and I refuse to do that for any site.
Not my problem.

It's Forbes Magazine look it up in the library
Sorry, I'm not wasting my time looking for your worthless meaning in a silly discussion.
Then why bother whining thatr you can't read the link?
Nobody is whining, prick.
I pointed out that your link sucks.
There is nothing wrong with the link there is with you and the fact that you don't understand that you can allow a page through your ad blocker.

It's not my responsibility to only post links you will actually look at.
I read my links.....and if I have to disable my adblocker or subcribe to the site, I use another source.

Once again your problem not mine
Actually it is your problem.
Far as I can tell......you're a lying sack of shit until you prove otherwise.
It's up to YOU to prove your case, not everyone else.
 

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