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Again, Upstate is 100% dependent upon the tax revenue from Downstate.
That is factually false.
Link?
The upstate would be perfectly capable of supporting itself. There is more to New York than NYC. It's the downstate that wouldn't allow it to happen.
How would you expect upstate to support itself, exactly?
Is this a serious question? How do New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Wyoming, Montana, and all of these other sparsely populated states that are a fraction of the size of upstate New York support themselves, exactly?
As I said earlier, New York is a lot more than just NYC and Long Island. There are several urban areas throughout the state that contribute to the state's overall economy and there is a good possibility that if they were free from the albatross of leftist economic policies that are plagued upon them by the downstate many of those Rust Belt cities could experience a rebirth in the long run.
That is factually false.
Link?
100% dependent? You need me to provide a link that nobody in upstate New York earns an income and that absolutely zero businesses exist in the entire region?
A second grader can tell you that isn't true without an Internet link.
How would you expect upstate to support itself, exactly?
Is this a serious question? How do New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine, Wyoming, Montana, and all of these other sparsely populated states that are a fraction of the size of upstate New York support themselves, exactly?
As I said earlier, New York is a lot more than just NYC and Long Island. There are several urban areas throughout the state that contribute to the state's overall economy and there is a good possibility that if they were free from the albatross of leftist economic policies that are plagued upon them by the downstate many of those Rust Belt cities could experience a rebirth in the long run.
I spent almost a decade working professionally in NYS politics. I can assure you that I'm well aware of what New York is, both geographically and politically.
New York City and the surrounding area provide 73% of the State's tax revenue, and receive only 57% of state's spending.
The entire state excluding the NYC area only represents 23% of tax revenue, and 35% of the state's spending.
The 5 counties of NYC account for 45% of the State's tax revenue. The downstate suburbs (Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Rockland, Rye) account for another 27%.
The entire rest of the state accounts for 24% of the State's tax revenue.
The upstate would be perfectly capable of supporting itself. There is more to New York than NYC. It's the downstate that wouldn't allow it to happen.
Won't happen.
Why not? If Suffolk and Nassau County align themselves with the Upstate Counties, they'll have more than enough votes, manpower and political will to overcome NYC.
The Soviet Union collapsed for the same purposes. All of its members overpowered the central authority. That is what's about to happen to Emperor Cuomo of the Empire State, a reenactment of the Fall of the Roman empire.
Any way we could get them to secede from the US?
Won't happen.
Why not? If Suffolk and Nassau County align themselves with the Upstate Counties, they'll have more than enough votes, manpower and political will to overcome NYC.
The Soviet Union collapsed for the same purposes. All of its members overpowered the central authority. That is what's about to happen to Emperor Cuomo of the Empire State, a reenactment of the Fall of the Roman empire.
Suffolk and Nassau only exist because they're NYC commuter towns.
The states largest source of non-federal revenue, the personal income tax, is particularly concentrated Downstate. New York City and its suburbs represent 64 percent of state residents, but around 80 percent of the income tax. "
Observation: Downstate Pays More, Upstate Gets More: Does It Matter?
Why not? If Suffolk and Nassau County align themselves with the Upstate Counties, they'll have more than enough votes, manpower and political will to overcome NYC.
The Soviet Union collapsed for the same purposes. All of its members overpowered the central authority. That is what's about to happen to Emperor Cuomo of the Empire State, a reenactment of the Fall of the Roman empire.
Nassau, Suffolk, NYC, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess are one big fiscal-social area. They would want to stay with NYC.
"If indeed it is better to give than receive, New York City and its suburbs can count their blessings by the billions of dollars. City residents and businesses paid about $4.1 billion more to Albany in taxes and fees than the state returned in spending for education, health care, transit and other services in 2009-10. For the nearby suburban counties (Nassau, Suffolk, Rockland and Westchester), it was $7.9 billion more in taxes than came back in spending, a new Rockefeller Institute study finds.[1]
Where did the extra $12 billion go? North and west, up the Hudson River and along the Thruway corridor to Upstate regions that have struggled economically for much of the last half-century.
In fiscal 2010, the Upstate region generated less than 28 percent of the states taxes and other non-federal revenues (including SUNY tuition, lottery and other gambling profits, motor vehicle fees and so on). By contrast, Upstate received a much larger share of state-funded expenditures, 42 percent.
New York State no longer wants to be dominated by New York City. Like central California no longer wants to be told what to do by Los Angeles. Maryland is tired of Baltimore. Colorado wants to split from Denver and Boulder. Even eastern Washington state wants nothing to do with the Western part of the state and liberal Seattle.
Won't happen.
Why not? If Suffolk and Nassau County align themselves with the Upstate Counties, they'll have more than enough votes, manpower and political will to overcome NYC.
The Soviet Union collapsed for the same purposes. All of its members overpowered the central authority. That is what's about to happen to Emperor Cuomo of the Empire State, a reenactment of the Fall of the Roman empire.
Suffolk and Nassau only exist because they're NYC commuter towns.
It would be horrible for the Albany area.
Explain.
The greater Albany area used to have a fair amount of industry in Schenectady and Troy but those industries went away decades ago. Now the Albany area relies heavily on the bureaucracy in Albany for jobs. Upstate in general would probably benefit but not Albany.
Why not? If Suffolk and Nassau County align themselves with the Upstate Counties, they'll have more than enough votes, manpower and political will to overcome NYC.
The Soviet Union collapsed for the same purposes. All of its members overpowered the central authority. That is what's about to happen to Emperor Cuomo of the Empire State, a reenactment of the Fall of the Roman empire.
Nassau, Suffolk, NYC, Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess are one big fiscal-social area. They would want to stay with NYC.
"If indeed it is better to give than receive, New York City and its suburbs can count their blessings by the billions of dollars. City residents and businesses paid about $4.1 billion more to Albany in taxes and fees than the state returned in spending for education, health care, transit and other services in 2009-10. For the nearby suburban counties (Nassau, Suffolk, Rockland and Westchester), it was $7.9 billion more in taxes than came back in spending, a new Rockefeller Institute study finds.[1]
Where did the extra $12 billion go? North and west, up the Hudson River and along the Thruway corridor to Upstate regions that have struggled economically for much of the last half-century.
In fiscal 2010, the Upstate region generated less than 28 percent of the states taxes and other non-federal revenues (including SUNY tuition, lottery and other gambling profits, motor vehicle fees and so on). By contrast, Upstate received a much larger share of state-funded expenditures, 42 percent.
Moochers better count their blessings. If they get their wish, and secede from the State, they will be up shit's creek in desperate need of revenue. They will BEG Downstate to come back.
