Secession movement in New York pushes for Big Apple to split from Upstate

[thereisnospoon]

The 5 counties of NYC account for 45% of the State's tax revenue. The downstate suburbs (Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, Rockland, Rye) account for another 27%.

The entire rest of the state accounts for 24% of the State's tax revenue.

Yeah? And?....
And the bulk of NY's infamous welfare state money also goes right back down state.
http://publications.budget.ny.gov/budgetFP/2013-14EnactedBudget.pdf
NY's total budget excluding federal aid is about $90B...
Total spending on 'human services', social services and health care found on page 18 is over $40B..That represents nearly half of the total non federal aid portion of the state budget.
Federal aid is around $40B. The total NYS budget for FY 2013 is $133B.
Look, the point is that while it may seem incredible to New York City people that the other 49 states can survive without the city, it does happen.
And if this pie in the sky thing ever happens, New York state would get along just fine.
BTW, Cuomo would be out of a job in the next election. No way does upstate NY elect a flaming lib like that. And of course immediately upon Coumo's dispatching, the State would start issuing fracking permits and issue 4-5 permits for casino gambling across the state. These two industries would be lucrative for state coffers. They would put thousands of people to work. The gas and oil business would provide high paying jobs as well.
Of course this secession thing is not going to happen.
On that note, I am out of this one.

As I pretty clearly showed before, downstate is a net "giver" in terms of State expenditures. They pay 72% of the state's revenue in taxes, and receive only about 55% of state spending.

Are you under the impression that all the people getting "aid" live in NYC?

Have you ever been to Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, or Syracuse?


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No and yes. All three.
What difference does that make.
The point is that for one to believe that NY State would cease to exist is nuts.
I've already pointed out why NYC and environs are a donor to Albany. It's got 75% of the population of the state. However, hidden in your reasoning is that welfare and social spending obviously goes to where the highest concentration of poor are...And where would THAT be? Downstate. Cut the bullshit.
The structure of the State government would have to change. That's it.
Look, City dwellers and political leaders have had this idea in their heads that if it isn't in the City, it's nowhere.
Well all one has to do is look across the river into NJ and see all that development that is a result of arrogant NYC policies that thousands of companies called their bluff.
When Mario Cuomo was governor of NY, he jacked up taxes on business to pay for welfare state programs and other budget busting items. The thinking was "they will never leave. If you're not in NY, you're nowhere".>
Businesses left in droves and never came back. That crushed the upstate tax base.
What makes you or anyone think NYC has this much clout?
See, one of the problems with liberals and their ideology is where everyone else sees "challenge" you people see "problems"...
You see the State is hopeless and helpless without NYC. In other words "why should we?" People with vision will figure out how to make it work. In other words ""Can do".