Secularists...Hoist By Their Own Petard

[Moonglow]

Gee, why don't you play guilt by association and throw in the Greeks, Romans and Mongols..They had no problem slaughtering ...

"Gee, why don't you play guilt by association and throw in the Greeks, Romans and Mongols..They had no problem slaughtering .."



Because there is no straight line from the Greeks, Romans and Mongols to the political masters in America today.

There is one from Marx, Lenin, Stalin to the Liberals, Progressives and Democrats.

And your political forebears slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children.

You know that.....

....don't you?

So no right wing form of government have ever existed? Without blood upon their hands?

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Because there is no straight line from the Greeks, Romans and Mongols to the political masters in America today.

There is one from Marx, Lenin, Stalin to the Liberals, Progressives and Democrats.

And your political forebears slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children.

You know that.....

....don't you?

That is so preposterous it's sad. The roots of Democratic socialism in the modern era trace to the reformers of the 19th century in response to the horrors of the Industrial Revolution, the rise of the Labor Party in Britain, the labor movement in the US,

and even to include the German socialist economy as advanced by the conservative Bismarck.

Your dementia is tragic.

 

[koshergrl]

Don't ya' just love it when the villains get what they deserve, a dose of their own medicine?
I sure do.


1. Can you imagine....secularists squealing like stuck pigs when their own methods are used against them!
'...a consummation devoutly to be wished....'


First.....those methods....then that example.



2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense.

That's why the hatred comes out whenever they see folks who are religious.




3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

· Employment(right to work)

· Food, clothing and leisure, viaenough income to support them

· Farmers' rights to a fair income

· Freedom fromunfair competitionandmonopolies

· Housing

· Medical care

· Social security
FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
Kind of a 'worker's paradise,' huh?
I wonder where he got that idea.



4. And for these material benefits, all Americans had to do was give up our birthright...Individuals who have had the benefit of an education recognize this.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


5. While America was founded on this view:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams

...it has become inculcated with this one:

" Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people. Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs and/or practices."
Secularism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

it happens to you all the time ... why just the other day you were so squealing like a pig, after I got done with ya ....

I've heen here more than a decade and I have never seen her squeal like a pig. So I know I can ignore you as a blatant liar.

 

[NYcarbineer]

OK....ok....stop begging for an education....

1. To understand liberals one must understand their origin: the French Revolution. Difficult to make sense out of it, as there is never much sense in the behavior of a mob: a rumor would start, they’d all buy it, then they’d run around beheading people. Sort of like Code Pink with pikes.
   1. “[A] throng knows neither doubt nor uncertainty. Like women, it goes at once to extremes. A suspicion transforms itself as soon as announced into incontrovertible evidence. A commencement of antipathy or disapprobation which in the case of an isolated individual would not gain strength, become at once furious hatred in the case of an individual in a crowd.” Gustave Le Bon, “The Crowd: The Study of the Popular Mind,” p.22.
2. It is more than passing interesting that liberals, whose history is that of the French Revolution, attempt to hide this by trying to portray the American Revolution as their inception. Let’s see, the American Revolution had the Minutemen, the ride of Paul Revere, the Continental Congress, the Declaration of Independence and the Liberty Bell.
3. The French Revolution is identified by the Great Fear, the storming of the Bastille, the food riots, the march on Versailles, the Day of the Daggers, the de-Christianization campaign, the September Massacres, the beheading of Louis XVI, the beheading of Marie Antoinette, the Reign of Terror, then the guillotining of one revolutionary after another, until Robespierre got the “national razor.” That is, not including various lynchings, assassinations, insurrections….this was the four-year period known as the French Revolution.
4. The rabble, led by the Jacobins proceeded to smash every trace of the past- religion, law, the social order, even the weights and measures system, and even the calendar.
   1. On November 2, 1789, the Assembly declared everything owned by the Catholic Church to be property of the state. Shortly after, the Assembly severed the French Catholic Church’s with the pope, dismissed 50 bishops, dissolved all clerical vows, reorganized the church so that priests were to be elected by popular vote, and required all the clergy to swear an oath of loyalty to the state.
5. When the mob stormed the Tuileries, the weak King Louis XVI, a kind of David Dinkins of kings, actually ordered his Swiss guards who were defending him to surrender. (This strategy, known as “unilateral surrender” would later become the cornerstone of the Democratic Party’s national security policies). Of course, upon surrender, the mob massacred over 600 of the guards, ripped them to shreds and mutilated their corpses, and marched around with their heads on pikes.
6. The excesses, and thousands upon thousands of deaths and mutilations take no back seat to the Russian revolution, or Mao’s mayhem.
   1. This was not a revolution that was likely to end, as the American Revolution did, with the motto “Annuit Coepis” (He [God] has favored our undertakings) on its national seal. See chapter six of "Demonic," by Coulter

Gee, why don't you play guilt by association and throw in the Greeks, Romans and Mongols..They had no problem slaughtering ...

"Gee, why don't you play guilt by association and throw in the Greeks, Romans and Mongols..They had no problem slaughtering .."



Because there is no straight line from the Greeks, Romans and Mongols to the political masters in America today.

There is one from Marx, Lenin, Stalin to the Liberals, Progressives and Democrats.

And your political forebears slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children.

You know that.....

....don't you?

So no right wing form of government have ever existed? Without blood upon their hands?

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

The Catholic Church terrorized Europe for more than 500 years. It's now been put in its place.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Don't ya' just love it when the villains get what they deserve, a dose of their own medicine?
I sure do.


1. Can you imagine....secularists squealing like stuck pigs when their own methods are used against them!
'...a consummation devoutly to be wished....'


First.....those methods....then that example.



2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense.

That's why the hatred comes out whenever they see folks who are religious.




3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

· Employment(right to work)

· Food, clothing and leisure, viaenough income to support them

· Farmers' rights to a fair income

· Freedom fromunfair competitionandmonopolies

· Housing

· Medical care

· Social security
FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
Kind of a 'worker's paradise,' huh?
I wonder where he got that idea.



4. And for these material benefits, all Americans had to do was give up our birthright...Individuals who have had the benefit of an education recognize this.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


5. While America was founded on this view:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams

...it has become inculcated with this one:

" Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people. Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs and/or practices."
Secularism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

it happens to you all the time ... why just the other day you were so squealing like a pig, after I got done with ya ....

I've heen here more than a decade and I have never seen her squeal like a pig. So I know I can ignore you as a blatant liar.

Screeches like a harpy is a more apt simile.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why do you keep wondering off track......

Jillhag, the moron was commenting on the founders.

When was the 14th ratified ?

all of which is irrelevant, idiota. and therein lies your fail.

but i think it's cute that you can't distinguish between a cut and paste queen and someone who's told you the status of the law.

what people said over 200 years ago is lovely....but ultimately not relevant.

Is that why you idiots quote a fucking letter by Thomas Jefferson like it is a Supreme Court ruling?

Actually you’re the idiot, because what’s being quoted is a Supreme Court ruling.

In case you missed it:

“[T]he First Amendment's language, properly interpreted, had erected a wall of separation between Church and State.”

Illinois ex rel. McCollum v. Board of Education of School District

Jefferson wrote a letter in the 1940s?

Are you retarded?

At most they used the letter(erroneously) to justify their position, and that means nothing when it comes to the lawful authority of the letter itself.

Yes, they are retarded.......that much is abundantly clear.

But, let's just get clear on this one.

1. A left-wing diploma mill product makes claims about what the founders wanted.....
2. She get's her ass handed to her over her claim (that she tries to back up by making up stuff about what other people say).
3. She calls on her moron boyfriend C_Clayton_Jones to bail her out.
4. He shows up and starts using SCOTUS Decisions From 1947 to support these claims about the founders.

Dispute the connection and all you hear is that it is irrelevant and the right won't acknowledged case law.

Which was never the case. Nobody on this thread said that case law did not apply.

But somehow this is supposed to support the moronic idea "wanted religious nutters as far away from government as possible".

It's comical and, at the same time, sad.

Now, I suggest you go back and read through the post....

What you'll find is that Jillihag, the self-proclaimed legal expert, can't make an argument to save her worthless life. She rarely posts more than two lines and, almost invariably, her little turds contain two or three words from her 100 word vocabulary....nutter, wingnut, troll.

I proved that the Founders chose securalism but in typical PC fashion, you chose to ignore it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Don't ya' just love it when the villains get what they deserve, a dose of their own medicine?
I sure do.


1. Can you imagine....secularists squealing like stuck pigs when their own methods are used against them!
'...a consummation devoutly to be wished....'


First.....those methods....then that example.



2. Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view. Philosophically, the term implies that only material things are real. Therefore, emotions, such as love, are no more than chemistry. And it suggests that it is only genes and environment that determine our actions, and free will plays no role. And, of course, God and religious beliefs are nonsense.

That's why the hatred comes out whenever they see folks who are religious.




3. The change in America, from a spiritual to a materialist entity, is largely due to the efforts of the 32nd President. He promised all sorts of material rewards, if America would only give up the individualism, and freedoms that the Founders embodied in the Constitution.
He promised rewards such as

· Employment(right to work)

· Food, clothing and leisure, viaenough income to support them

· Farmers' rights to a fair income

· Freedom fromunfair competitionandmonopolies

· Housing

· Medical care

· Social security
FDR’s Second Bill of Rights
Kind of a 'worker's paradise,' huh?
I wonder where he got that idea.



4. And for these material benefits, all Americans had to do was give up our birthright...Individuals who have had the benefit of an education recognize this.

"The excesses of the European versions of fascism were mitigated by the specific history and culture of America, Jeffersonian individualism, heterogeneity of the population, but the central theme is still an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life., albeit at the loss of what had hitherfore been accepted as ‘inalienable human rights.’"
Goldberg, "Liberal Fascism."


5. While America was founded on this view:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
John Adams

...it has become inculcated with this one:

" Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries. One manifestation of secularism is asserting the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, or, in a state declared to be neutral on matters of belief, from the imposition by government of religion or religious practices upon its people. Another manifestation of secularism is the view that public activities and decisions, especially political ones, should be uninfluenced by religious beliefs and/or practices."
Secularism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


....the very antithesis of 'a moral and religious people.'
The Founders wouldn't be welcome in a secular nation, would they.

it happens to you all the time ... why just the other day you were so squealing like a pig, after I got done with ya ....

I've heen here more than a decade and I have never seen her squeal like a pig. So I know I can ignore you as a blatant liar.

Hmmm....been here more than a decade...joined in 2011.

Fascinating.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Gee, why don't you play guilt by association and throw in the Greeks, Romans and Mongols..They had no problem slaughtering .."



Because there is no straight line from the Greeks, Romans and Mongols to the political masters in America today.

There is one from Marx, Lenin, Stalin to the Liberals, Progressives and Democrats.

And your political forebears slaughtered over 100 million men, women and children.

You know that.....

....don't you?

So no right wing form of government have ever existed? Without blood upon their hands?

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Right wingers lying.

I have one word for you.

Birtherism.

Rightwingers???
Republicans?


Didn't you know that it was begun by Bill's wife????
A Democrat/Liberal/Progressive.....


"Bombshell: ‘Washington Post’ Confirms Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement
...the Washington Post removes any doubt that the anti-Obama Birther movement was started in 2007 and 2008 by Hillary Clinton, her campaign, and her Democrat supporters.
As Breitbart News reported earlier this month, other left-wing media outlets, like Politico and the Guardian, had already traced the Birther movement back to Democrats and Ms. Clinton.


Everything began in March of 2007 when Hillary’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, wrote a now-infamous campaign memo laying out his overall plan to win the election.
[Penn] wrote, “I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.”Penn proposed targeting Obama’s “lack of American roots.”
Bombshell: 'Washington Post' Confirms Hillary Clinton Started the Birther Movement - Breitbart


You've become the best friend the Right can have.
Thanks a bunch.

Hillary Clinton did not start the birther movement. Breitbart and PoliticalChic are incapable of telling the truth.

But it's Politico that said this.....

That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship.

“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.


Read more: Birtherism: Where it all began
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

I would like one quote of Hillary Clinton ever making the charge, ever telling others to make the charge, ever confirming that she believed the charge, ever saying she approved of using this in the campaign.

Yes, and I'd like you to post something reasonable.

Neither of us is going to get his wish.

Hillary, the liar, didn't survive this long by admitting anything.

So it's unreasonable to ask for actual credible evidence for the accusation that Hillary is responsible for the birther movement?

Good one.

 

[Moonglow]

So no right wing form of government have ever existed? Without blood upon their hands?

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

 

[NYcarbineer]

So no right wing form of government have ever existed? Without blood upon their hands?

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

I'm challenging you to debate the OP since you admitted you disagree with her.

I said I don't agree with her on many things.....I never said one way or the other on the OP.

So you don't disagree with her preposterous assertion that the French Revolution was bloodier than the American Revolution because of Christianity here and not there.

Great. You're as stupid as she is.

I have not read the premise of the OP.....

I think I said....I had not made a comment one way or the other on the OP.

Are you always this prone to make stuff up to argue against.....or has Jillihag been giving you lessons ?

Is that a confession that you are in this thread in total disregard of the topic of this thread?

I am in this thread because a left wing jackass made claims about the founders.

Claims that were correct. The Founders specifically and explicitly framed the Constitution as a secular government,

and they did so by winning the debate against those who would have preferred otherwise.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

PC is the sort of Catholic who thinks Catholics can do no wrong, unless of course they lean left, like her current Pope.

 

[Moonglow]

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

PC is the sort of Catholic who thinks Catholics can do no wrong, unless of course they lean left, like her current Pope.

Napoleon had the right idea of how to deal with a defunct religious empire..

 

[PoliticalChic]

When one begins a sentence with "So....," it implies that the sentence to follow flows from the material to which you are responding.

As that is not the case....you post is a form of lying.

Try to be both more honest, and grammatically correct.

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

Another one of those 'throw it against the wall' posts.

I never said anything about Popes.

I'm beginning to believe you're revealing a case of A.D.D.
Has it been diagnosed?

There are medications that may be helpful....speak to your doctor to see if they may be right for you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

PC is the sort of Catholic who thinks Catholics can do no wrong, unless of course they lean left, like her current Pope.

Napoleon had the right idea of how to deal with a defunct religious empire..

Napoleon crowns himself as the Pope pouts in the background, lol

 

[PoliticalChic]

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

PC is the sort of Catholic who thinks Catholics can do no wrong, unless of course they lean left, like her current Pope.

Napoleon had the right idea of how to deal with a defunct religious empire..

Napoleon!

Yet another topic that you know less than nothing about.

He actually reversed the excesses of the French Revolution.

The French Revolution's attempts at dechristianization proved such a failure, and mistake, that Napoleon reversed same, and entered into a concordat with the church in 1801.

He reversed the following:
"April 13, April 13, 1798, was a Friday. But it was springtime inrevolutionary Paris, meaning that under the Directory’s new calendar it was the twenty-forth day of the month of Germinal in the Year Six, and the next day of rest was still six days distant, not two.

Has any reform been more futile?The Government’sarrogant discard of Christianitymeans that weeks have been extended to ten days instead of seven. The revision’s intent is to supplant the papal calendar with a uniform alternative of twelve months of thirty days each, based on the system of ancient Egypt. Bibles themselves were torn up to make paper gun cartridges in the grim days of 1793, and now the biblical week has been guillotined, each month instead divided into three decades of ten days, with the year, with the year beginning at the autumn equinox and five to six holidays added to balance idealism with our solar orbit. Not content with regimenting the calendar, the government has introduced a new metric system for weight and measure.

There are even proposals for a new clock of precisely 100,000 seconds each day.Reason, reason!...The new calendar is the kind of logical idea imposed by clever people that completely ignores habit, emotion, and human nature and thus forecasts the Revolution’s doom.

Your colonial revolution [the American Revolution] was one of political independence. This one in France is about the very order of life. My God, a king guillotined! Thousands sent to slaughter! Wars unleashed on every French border! Atheism enshrined! Church lands seized, debts ignored, estates confiscated, rabbles armed, riots, anarchy, and tyranny!"
From the novel “Napoleon’ Pyramids,” by William Dietrich; one gets the sense of the utter stupidity of the "Cult of Reason."

 

[NYcarbineer]

France was not the first nation to throw of Papal control and financial gains through religion..

What does this have to do with post #346.....or, have you retreated from that issue?


It appears that many of your posts are more of the 'throw it at the wall and see what sticks' variety.


But....If I'm simply helping you fatten up your post totals.....well, at least it prevents you from hanging out on the street corner.

Have you always romanticized about living under an enlightened despot and the abuses of the Catholic church?

Aha!
Now you've devolved to a straight-forward lie!

True colors coming out?



But....I understand.....others of your ilk to whom I've had to administer similar beating become vulgar.

Carry on.

Just as vulgar as the Popes that bought their way into the position..

Another one of those 'throw it against the wall' posts.

I never said anything about Popes.

I'm beginning to believe you're revealing a case of A.D.D.
Has it been diagnosed?

There are medications that may be helpful....speak to your doctor to see if they may be right for you.

Your entire crackpot theory about France centers on the Papacy.

 

[Moonglow]

The Enlightenment quest to promote reason as the basis for legitimacy and progress found little to praise in the Church. While the philosophes appreciated the value of religion in promoting moral and social order, the Church itself was condemned for its power and influence. The scandal surrounding the divisive theological movement of Jansenism, exacerbated by the heavy-handed treatment of its followers earlier in the century, furnished one reason for attacking the Church’s authority and its close links with the monarchy. France’s lack of toleration for religious minorities provided another. - See more at: The French Revolution and the Catholic Church | History Today

 

[PoliticalChic]

The Enlightenment quest to promote reason as the basis for legitimacy and progress found little to praise in the Church. While the philosophes appreciated the value of religion in promoting moral and social order, the Church itself was condemned for its power and influence. The scandal surrounding the divisive theological movement of Jansenism, exacerbated by the heavy-handed treatment of its followers earlier in the century, furnished one reason for attacking the Church’s authority and its close links with the monarchy. France’s lack of toleration for religious minorities provided another. - See more at: The French Revolution and the Catholic Church | History Today

Yet another attempt to change the subject....
....meaning yet another full out retreat.


Now do you see why you should have stayed in school instead of running off to join the circus?

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

There are even proposals for a new clock of precisely 100,000 seconds each day.Reason, reason!...The new calendar is the kind of logical idea imposed by clever people that completely ignores habit, emotion, and human nature and thus forecasts the Revolution’s doom.

Your colonial revolution [the American Revolution] was one of political independence. This one in France is about the very order of life. My God, a king guillotined! "

Oliver Cromwell the PURITAN (you know, like those colonial Christians David Limbaugh lovingly propagandizes about?)

and his cohorts beheaded a King in 1649, more than a century before the French Revolution.

Why don't you tell us all about the atheism of that revolution?

Eh, spew some new sewage for a change.