Separation of Church and State Hypocrisy

[Delta4Embassy]

Reading around yesterday for other things I saw a lot of court cases about 10 Commandments monuments and displays. If we have separation of church and state, but swear in every politician with their hand to heaven, their other hand on the Bible (or whatever their religious faith's holy text is,) and in a trial swear people in also using a religious text, then obviously the separation isn't absolute. And if that's the case, we should allow these 10 Commandments monuments on government lands as well as allow religious classes in public schools. As long as the classes are electives, I don't see the problem.

Either have separation and forbid everything, or accept that we don't actually have separation and allow everything.

 

[DiamondDave]

We have no separation of church and state (this lame shit again?? seriously?)

We have, within the constitution, rules against having a state formed, sponsored, or otherwise stated ESTABLISHED religion

 

[JakeStarkey]

Reading around yesterday for other things I saw a lot of court cases about 10 Commandments monuments and displays. If we have separation of church and state, but swear in every politician with their hand to heaven, their other hand on the Bible (or whatever their religious faith's holy text is,) and in a trial swear people in also using a religious text, then obviously the separation isn't absolute. And if that's the case, we should allow these 10 Commandments monuments on government lands as well as allow religious classes in public schools. As long as the classes are electives, I don't see the problem.

Either have separation and forbid everything, or accept that we don't actually have separation and allow everything.

No issue. Such classes are available as electives.

Anyone can pray or not as they wish as long as one does not coerce another or disrupt the educational process.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We have no separation of church and state (this lame shit again?? seriously?)

We have, within the constitution, rules against having a state formed, sponsored, or otherwise stated ESTABLISHED religion

No shit...why can't people get this through their heads??

 

[Delta4Embassy]

We have no separation of church and state (this lame shit again?? seriously?)

We have, within the constitution, rules against having a state formed, sponsored, or otherwise stated ESTABLISHED religion

Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
First Amendment | U.S. Constitution | LII / Legal Information Institute

In other words, there can be no state religion. But not that we can't have religious expressions in or on government lands. Putting up a plaque or monument isn't the state creating one reliigon for all. Especially if you then allow other religious displays.

"Freedom of religion does not mean freedom from religion." - Gov. Rick Perry (eh, even a broken watch is right twice a day.)

How many tiny towns have citizenry who all attend the same church? Should will deny these little towns where everyone's in agreement about their faith from displaying religious symbols on their courthouse property or elsewhere?

What about multi-faith communities? Should we forbid any expression of religious texts period yet still swear people in using religious texts? Ya, that makes sense.