Serial Numbers Missing on Some Ballots in Arizona Election Audit

The county is the lowest level. The people doing the counting would have had to do it in this case.

OK let’s go with that

The guy with the suitcases of fake ballots shows up at the county collection point and adds them to the count.
Let’s say he has 10,000 fake ballots.

Then the county publishes the results with 10,000 fake votes.
But each town in that county has recorded its own votes before they sent them to the county.

Someone would add up the votes registered by each town and conclude that there are 10,000 extra votes

Doesn’t happen
No, they would have to dump the fake ballots in the largest counties instead of worrying about each town and each county in the state which would result in Biden winning fewer counties than Obama but still having "more" votes. Remember biden only won a little over 1/2 the counties that Obama did-------------CLEARLY FRAUDULENT VOTES were added in.
Again, people don’t vote as a county. There is no generic county vote. Each town and city has its own ballot with its own candidates in local elections.
So you can’t just dump ballots at the county level. If you try it at the city or town level, the number of votes counted won’t match the number recorded in each town.
I didn't say they needed nor cared about any individual town....the dems cheated multiple ways. In this instance, they targeted larger population areas and stuff ballots there which is why we see the lopsided loss of entire counties to biden (when compared to Obama) but he somehow got more votes in the much fewer counties.

This isn't human nature--if biden was more popular than Obama, you would see more counties go for Biden not 40% or so less.

What you are babbling about has nothing to do with anything, but I think you know this right.

You keep posting on probabilities and ignoring realities, and trying to put the numbers into statistical probability charts.

None of your statistical analysis matters. What matters is the vote count, and they put the lie to EVERYTHING you post.
The delirium among America's right is off the charts.

Trump did this.

Why? Because he puts himself above the interests of America.
I really wish you would not mention America in your posts. You clearly hate this country.

You are the one who hates this country. Otherwise you wouldn't be attacking it.
I am not attacking the country by asking for election integrity. Try again nitwit.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
It is the Democrats ignoring the Constitution. Those audits are a Constitutional right. They are well in the purview of the state legislatures that control and make the laws about elections. Calling those people traitors shows the disrespect Democrats have for the Constitution, not the people behind the audits.

The States election laws were all followed in 2020 and the results were certified. There is no official audit being conducted that can change the results of the election. Having lost faith in our Constitution, the Neo-GOP are becoming more radical.
The states election laws were changed without the state legislature. Start telling the truth.

I don't believe a single law was changed. All 50 States certified their election results in 2020.
There were some management and rule changes to accommodate COVID conditions...that Secretary of States put in.... Booth separation, sanitizing, fewer voting places and consolidation in to mega huge voting places, and many things for safety....but Secretary of States are given in their State constitutions and in election law by legislatures to put out rules and guidance for voters and on how to execute the election, so they run smoothly, or to ensure accuracy, or to accommodate that one man one vote is equal and fair kind of things that circumstances in their state required at the time.

Many times the republican legislature with the Trump campaign sued the Secretary of States, to stop some of the guidance they gave.... These are cases that are said to be the 60 or so that Trump lost, even on appeal, that are mentioned a lot... Only one that I know of, made it to the Supreme court after the election, that I mentioned in my previous post....which disagree with a lower court ruling.
Rule changes are illegal unless that state legislature votes on it, moron.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

There was no fraud to investigate. Many Republicans who voted to overturn the elecrtion know this and they did it for political reasons.
The reason was fraud, douchebag.

You can repeat your talking points over and over until doomsday, but only the gullible are buying it.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.

You are attempting to strip Americans of their voting rights and free speech rights. That is attacking this country. The goal is to keep you Nazis in power.
Exposing fraud isn't stripping anyone of anything except for criminals.
 
The county is the lowest level. The people doing the counting would have had to do it in this case.

OK let’s go with that

The guy with the suitcases of fake ballots shows up at the county collection point and adds them to the count.
Let’s say he has 10,000 fake ballots.

Then the county publishes the results with 10,000 fake votes.
But each town in that county has recorded its own votes before they sent them to the county.

Someone would add up the votes registered by each town and conclude that there are 10,000 extra votes

Doesn’t happen
No, they would have to dump the fake ballots in the largest counties instead of worrying about each town and each county in the state which would result in Biden winning fewer counties than Obama but still having "more" votes. Remember biden only won a little over 1/2 the counties that Obama did-------------CLEARLY FRAUDULENT VOTES were added in.
Again, people don’t vote as a county. There is no generic county vote. Each town and city has its own ballot with its own candidates in local elections.
So you can’t just dump ballots at the county level. If you try it at the city or town level, the number of votes counted won’t match the number recorded in each town.
I didn't say they needed nor cared about any individual town....the dems cheated multiple ways. In this instance, they targeted larger population areas and stuff ballots there which is why we see the lopsided loss of entire counties to biden (when compared to Obama) but he somehow got more votes in the much fewer counties.

This isn't human nature--if biden was more popular than Obama, you would see more counties go for Biden not 40% or so less.

What you are babbling about has nothing to do with anything, but I think you know this right.

You keep posting on probabilities and ignoring realities, and trying to put the numbers into statistical probability charts.

None of your statistical analysis matters. What matters is the vote count, and they put the lie to EVERYTHING you post.
The delirium among America's right is off the charts.

Trump did this.

Why? Because he puts himself above the interests of America.
I really wish you would not mention America in your posts. You clearly hate this country.

You are the one who hates this country. Otherwise you wouldn't be attacking it.
I am not attacking the country by asking for election integrity. Try again nitwit.
Don't you love the low-life tactics these leftwing scumbags use?

“If you were against the New Deal and its wholesale buying of pauper votes, then you were against Christian charity. If you were against the gross injustices and dishonesties of the Wagner Labor Act, then you were against labor. If you were against packing the Supreme Court, then you were in favor of letting Wall Street do it. If you are against using Dr. Quack’s cancer salve, then you are in favor of letting Uncle Julius die. If you are against Holy Church, or Christian Science, then you are against god. It is an old, old argument.”

–H.L. Mencken
 
4 minute video. Worth every second.
So the patriots in Maricopa county -- most of them Republicans -- aren't afraid of discovery, while the frauditors are crapping themselves over the thought.

You know the frauditors are madly trying to delete data now, even though they've been ordered to preserve it.

It's getting real. Some of the frauditor subcontractors are talking now, and that doesn't bode well for the frauditors.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
The Constitution was overthrown when Fraud Faux Xiden illegally took up residence in The White House.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
It is the Democrats ignoring the Constitution. Those audits are a Constitutional right. They are well in the purview of the state legislatures that control and make the laws about elections. Calling those people traitors shows the disrespect Democrats have for the Constitution, not the people behind the audits.

The States election laws were all followed in 2020 and the results were certified. There is no official audit being conducted that can change the results of the election. Having lost faith in our Constitution, the Neo-GOP are becoming more radical.
The states election laws were changed without the state legislature. Start telling the truth.

I don't believe a single law was changed. All 50 States certified their election results in 2020.
There were some management and rule changes to accommodate COVID conditions...that Secretary of States put in.... Booth separation, sanitizing, fewer voting places and consolidation in to mega huge voting places, and many things for safety....but Secretary of States are given in their State constitutions and in election law by legislatures to put out rules and guidance for voters and on how to execute the election, so they run smoothly, or to ensure accuracy, or to accommodate that one man one vote is equal and fair kind of things that circumstances in their state required at the time.

Many times the republican legislature with the Trump campaign sued the Secretary of States, to stop some of the guidance they gave.... These are cases that are said to be the 60 or so that Trump lost, even on appeal, that are mentioned a lot... Only one that I know of, made it to the Supreme court after the election, that I mentioned in my previous post....which disagree with a lower court ruling.
Rule changes are illegal unless that state legislature votes on it, moron.

Not all rule changes need to be approved. It depends on the States. For example the Republican Gov. of Texas expanded the dates for early voting in Texas. The Republican's sued him of course, but the Texas Supreme Court agreed with the Gov,
 
4 minute video. Worth every second.
So the patriots in Maricopa county -- most of them Republicans -- aren't afraid of discovery, while the frauditors are crapping themselves over the thought.

You know the frauditors are madly trying to delete data now, even though they've been ordered to preserve it.

It's getting real. Some of the frauditor subcontractors are talking now, and that doesn't bode well for the frauditors.
It has already been posted the the auditors and the Senate already planned to save everything involved in the audit. You are uninformed and irrelevant.
 
Well, well, this is interesting.

Serial numbers missing between original, duplicate ballots in Arizona election audit: official​

EXCERPT:

The liaison between Senate Republicans who authorized the audit and county officials told a hearing Tuesday that serial numbers were missing on damaged ballots that were duplicated so they could be read by vote tabulation machines.

But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law.

Asked by Fann if Maricopa County could assist in that effort, Bennett said county officials have made clear to him several times they wouldn't work with any of the auditors the Senate Republicans hired. He will ask for their help directly, Bennett said.

Oh dear. How shocking. That's enough to revoke joes presidency.
What a revelation for repigs. Lets all rejoice and sing hyms.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
The Constitution was overthrown when Fraud Faux Xiden illegally took up residence in The White House.
Hahaha, Thanks for the laugh. I love ya man.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
It is the Democrats ignoring the Constitution. Those audits are a Constitutional right. They are well in the purview of the state legislatures that control and make the laws about elections. Calling those people traitors shows the disrespect Democrats have for the Constitution, not the people behind the audits.

The States election laws were all followed in 2020 and the results were certified. There is no official audit being conducted that can change the results of the election. Having lost faith in our Constitution, the Neo-GOP are becoming more radical.
The states election laws were changed without the state legislature. Start telling the truth.

I don't believe a single law was changed. All 50 States certified their election results in 2020.
There were some management and rule changes to accommodate COVID conditions...that Secretary of States put in.... Booth separation, sanitizing, fewer voting places and consolidation in to mega huge voting places, and many things for safety....but Secretary of States are given in their State constitutions and in election law by legislatures to put out rules and guidance for voters and on how to execute the election, so they run smoothly, or to ensure accuracy, or to accommodate that one man one vote is equal and fair kind of things that circumstances in their state required at the time.

Many times the republican legislature with the Trump campaign sued the Secretary of States, to stop some of the guidance they gave.... These are cases that are said to be the 60 or so that Trump lost, even on appeal, that are mentioned a lot... Only one that I know of, made it to the Supreme court after the election, that I mentioned in my previous post....which disagree with a lower court ruling.
Rule changes are illegal unless that state legislature votes on it, moron.

Not all rule changes need to be approved. It depends on the States. For example the Republican Gov. of Texas expanded the dates for early voting in Texas. The Republican's sued him of course, but the Texas Supreme Court agreed with the Gov,
Then neither honored the law. State legislatures have plenary power concerning elections. Period.
 
Well, well, this is interesting.

Serial numbers missing between original, duplicate ballots in Arizona election audit: official​

EXCERPT:

The liaison between Senate Republicans who authorized the audit and county officials told a hearing Tuesday that serial numbers were missing on damaged ballots that were duplicated so they could be read by vote tabulation machines.

But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law.

Asked by Fann if Maricopa County could assist in that effort, Bennett said county officials have made clear to him several times they wouldn't work with any of the auditors the Senate Republicans hired. He will ask for their help directly, Bennett said.
How do we know the auditors didn't remove them themselves? There's a definite agenda to prove something went on and some are getting nervous, because very little has been found. I wouldn't put it past the more crazed individuals to go rogue.
Any proof these auditors are “crazed”? There are three different auditor groups, and independent observers.

Well the owner of the Cyber Ninjas is self-admitted believer in Q-Anon. One of the workers has been identified as having been at the Capitol on January 6th, also self-admitted. These people are convinced the election was stolen from the start.
Really?

Post the evidence.
 
Then neither honored the law. State legislatures have plenary power concerning elections. Period.
Which they then delegated, by law, to election officials.

Did your cult not mention that tiny bit of common sense to you? Did you really think that historically, state legislatures had to vote on every precinct change or any tiny change in ballot design?
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
It is the Democrats ignoring the Constitution. Those audits are a Constitutional right. They are well in the purview of the state legislatures that control and make the laws about elections. Calling those people traitors shows the disrespect Democrats have for the Constitution, not the people behind the audits.

The States election laws were all followed in 2020 and the results were certified. There is no official audit being conducted that can change the results of the election. Having lost faith in our Constitution, the Neo-GOP are becoming more radical.
The states election laws were changed without the state legislature. Start telling the truth.

I don't believe a single law was changed. All 50 States certified their election results in 2020.
There were some management and rule changes to accommodate COVID conditions...that Secretary of States put in.... Booth separation, sanitizing, fewer voting places and consolidation in to mega huge voting places, and many things for safety....but Secretary of States are given in their State constitutions and in election law by legislatures to put out rules and guidance for voters and on how to execute the election, so they run smoothly, or to ensure accuracy, or to accommodate that one man one vote is equal and fair kind of things that circumstances in their state required at the time.

Many times the republican legislature with the Trump campaign sued the Secretary of States, to stop some of the guidance they gave.... These are cases that are said to be the 60 or so that Trump lost, even on appeal, that are mentioned a lot... Only one that I know of, made it to the Supreme court after the election, that I mentioned in my previous post....which disagree with a lower court ruling.
Rule changes are illegal unless that state legislature votes on it, moron.

Not all rule changes need to be approved. It depends on the States. For example the Republican Gov. of Texas expanded the dates for early voting in Texas. The Republican's sued him of course, but the Texas Supreme Court agreed with the Gov,
That rule needs to be approved because the dates are specified in TX state law. A judge cannot change state election law, period.
 
Then neither honored the law. State legislatures have plenary power concerning elections. Period.
Which they then delegated, by law, to election officials.

Did your cult not mention that tiny bit of common sense to you? Did you really think that historically, state legislatures had to vote on every precinct change or any tiny change in ballot design?
Hmmm . . . . . . . . .no. The constitution doesn't allow that. They have to vote an anything specified in state election law, douchebag.
 
Where do you come up with this stupidity?

This isn't a debate. You're being an imbecile. According to you, elections have all been unconstitutional for the past 200 years, just because your cult recently decided that was the case.

Meanwhile, back in reality, state legislatures passed laws giving control of elections to election officials, and those laws were entirely valid.
 
Where do you come up with this stupidity?

This isn't a debate. You're being an imbecile. According to you, elections have all been unconstitutional for the past 200 years, just because your cult recently decided that was the case.

Meanwhile, back in reality, state legislatures passed laws giving control of elections to election officials, and those laws were entirely valid.
Those election officials cannot change state law. That's so simple even a brain damaged moron like you can understand it.
 

Trump and his supporters are attacking this country. You are trying to establish a dictatorship and assaulting free speech rights in this country.
Trying to get the courts to acknowledge the election was stolen is not attacking the country.
Like they did on Jan 6?
Congress are the people who fucked up Jan 6th. They knew 40% of voters wanted fraud investigated and they did nothing. It is in the hands of the people in the swing states now and they are going to prove fraud.

The Faithless Party will never be able to overturn the 2020 election. Their only hope is to overthrow the Constitution that they've obviously lost faith in.
It is the Democrats ignoring the Constitution. Those audits are a Constitutional right. They are well in the purview of the state legislatures that control and make the laws about elections. Calling those people traitors shows the disrespect Democrats have for the Constitution, not the people behind the audits.

The States election laws were all followed in 2020 and the results were certified. There is no official audit being conducted that can change the results of the election. Having lost faith in our Constitution, the Neo-GOP are becoming more radical.
The states election laws were changed without the state legislature. Start telling the truth.

I don't believe a single law was changed. All 50 States certified their election results in 2020.
There were some management and rule changes to accommodate COVID conditions...that Secretary of States put in.... Booth separation, sanitizing, fewer voting places and consolidation in to mega huge voting places, and many things for safety....but Secretary of States are given in their State constitutions and in election law by legislatures to put out rules and guidance for voters and on how to execute the election, so they run smoothly, or to ensure accuracy, or to accommodate that one man one vote is equal and fair kind of things that circumstances in their state required at the time.

Many times the republican legislature with the Trump campaign sued the Secretary of States, to stop some of the guidance they gave.... These are cases that are said to be the 60 or so that Trump lost, even on appeal, that are mentioned a lot... Only one that I know of, made it to the Supreme court after the election, that I mentioned in my previous post....which disagree with a lower court ruling.
Rule changes are illegal unless that state legislature votes on it, moron.

Not all rule changes need to be approved. It depends on the States. For example the Republican Gov. of Texas expanded the dates for early voting in Texas. The Republican's sued him of course, but the Texas Supreme Court agreed with the Gov,
Then neither honored the law. State legislatures have plenary power concerning elections. Period.

Precedent says otherwise in that the Court has ruled broadly that the term "Legislature" in the Constitution with regards to this includes the states law making apparatus, not just the Legislatures.
 

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