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so far the facts show that the other guy was actually a nut job.
1. the old guy asked him to stop texting as is the rule. he did not.
2. the old guy did not quarrel, but instead went to the administration to complain - actually the perfect proof he was trying to resolve the matter in a civilized manner.
3. When he returned, the texting guy got all up in arms because he was mad that the guy complained about him.
the detailed process how did it escalate further is up to the investigation to find out.
But if the wife of the killed man was trying to hold him back and he WAS yelling - that is a proof of a threat to the old guy.
Would it be enough to get him acquitted? from the murder charges - most probably, for manslaughter ones - I don't know.
Well, unfortunately, this is Florida, where they let guys who shoot children in the street walk if they are the wrong race or social class, so there's that.
This guy needs to go to prison for the rest of his life, first degree murder. And we need to stop giving guns out to any asshole who wants one.
well, unfortunately, this is the US and it is so far a law governed society.
And the laws will decide if what happened was justified or not.
In a meanwhile it would be better to refresh and undust some old rules of living in the society and the manners which has been helping to live for centuries.
If the young guy would just stop texting or just go outside - he will be alive today.
Simple, isn't it?
The wife raised her hand to shield her husband..
More is coming out, just like the Martin case.
Oulsen was the aggressor.
although it looks like an up hill battle for a self defense claim
there is not enough information out
when it comes to self defense claims
often it appears to be a slam dunk
and turns out differently
take John Wayne Rogers another Florida self defense claim
where the defendant was granted immunity after shooting
his drinking buddy with a 308
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
6:26 p.m. EST, January 10, 2014
SANFORD The murder trial of a blind man was cut short Friday after a judge granted a "stand your ground" motion for immunity and ruled the man acted in self-defense when he shot a drinking buddy in the chest with an assault rifle.
Hours after the ruling, John Wayne Rogers, 40, left the Seminole County Jail, a free man for the first time in nearly two years.
He had killed James T. DeWitt, 34, an overnight guest on March 27, 2012, after a long drinking session in Rogers' home in Geneva, a rural community in eastern Seminole County.
'Stand your ground' immunity granted for blind man who fatally shot drinking buddy - Orlando Sentinel
That is a very good law and I am glad it is being applied wider and wider.
c'mon, you know it is not going to fly. there is no great bodily injury from popcorn flying around.
The killed man was stupid. Stubborn, rude and stupid.
But it does not mean he deserved to be killed or posed ANY threat to 71 year old.
Is there an age limit for legally carrying a gun?
no, why should there be?
although it looks like an up hill battle for a self defense claim
there is not enough information out
when it comes to self defense claims
often it appears to be a slam dunk
and turns out differently
take John Wayne Rogers another Florida self defense claim
where the defendant was granted immunity after shooting
his drinking buddy with a 308
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
6:26 p.m. EST, January 10, 2014
SANFORD The murder trial of a blind man was cut short Friday after a judge granted a "stand your ground" motion for immunity and ruled the man acted in self-defense when he shot a drinking buddy in the chest with an assault rifle.
Hours after the ruling, John Wayne Rogers, 40, left the Seminole County Jail, a free man for the first time in nearly two years.
He had killed James T. DeWitt, 34, an overnight guest on March 27, 2012, after a long drinking session in Rogers' home in Geneva, a rural community in eastern Seminole County.
'Stand your ground' immunity granted for blind man who fatally shot drinking buddy - Orlando Sentinel
That is a very good law and I am glad it is being applied wider and wider.
so do i
The wife raised her hand to shield her husband..
Seems improbable.
The wife raised her hand to shield her husband..
Seems improbable.
There were witnesses this time.
SYG is bad law that has so far been used successfully when one drug dealer kills another.
How so ?
Florida law deems he is at greater jeopardy of great bodily harm or death at the outset.
it comes down to reasonableness
For which the threshold is reduced as elderly citizen per law.
The wife raised her hand to shield her husband..
Seems improbable.
The wife raised her hand to shield her husband..
Seems improbable.
There were witnesses this time.
SYG is bad law that has so far been used successfully when one drug dealer kills another.
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well, unfortunately, this is the US and it is so far a law governed society.
And the laws will decide if what happened was justified or not.
In a meanwhile it would be better to refresh and undust some old rules of living in the society and the manners which has been helping to live for centuries.
If the young guy would just stop texting or just go outside - he will be alive today.
Simple, isn't it?
If the old crazy guy didn't have a gun, he'd still be alive, too.
And frankly, that works better.
I find people who text annoying, but damn, shooting the poor man.
I guess you guys need yourself a new hero now that Zimmerman's turned into a total shitheel, eh?
seems improbable.
there were witnesses this time.
Syg is bad law that has so far been used successfully when one drug dealer kills another.
it is not a syg case
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well, unfortunately, this is the US and it is so far a law governed society.
And the laws will decide if what happened was justified or not.
In a meanwhile it would be better to refresh and undust some old rules of living in the society and the manners which has been helping to live for centuries.
If the young guy would just stop texting or just go outside - he will be alive today.
Simple, isn't it?
If the old crazy guy didn't have a gun, he'd still be alive, too.
He was in fear of great bodily injury.
it comes down to reasonableness
For which the threshold is reduced as elderly citizen per law.
yes i read that
however leaving the area and returning to the "fight" is not supportive
of a self defense claim
For which the threshold is reduced as elderly citizen per law.
yes i read that
however leaving the area and returning to the "fight" is not supportive
of a self defense claim
quite to the contrary.
he left in order to PREVENT the fight - he complained to the administration, not engaged in the word exchange with the younger guy - it was the killed guy who started the fight upon the older returning to his seat as he was pissed that he was reported.
yes i read that
however leaving the area and returning to the "fight" is not supportive
of a self defense claim
quite to the contrary.
he left in order to PREVENT the fight - he complained to the administration, not engaged in the word exchange with the younger guy - it was the killed guy who started the fight upon the older returning to his seat as he was pissed that he was reported.
Why didn't he change seats?
For which the threshold is reduced as elderly citizen per law.
yes i read that
however leaving the area and returning to the "fight" is not supportive
of a self defense claim
quite to the contrary.
he left in order to PREVENT the fight - he complained to the administration, not engaged in the word exchange with the younger guy - it was the killed guy who started the fight upon the older returning to his seat as he was pissed that he was reported.
quite to the contrary.
he left in order to PREVENT the fight - he complained to the administration, not engaged in the word exchange with the younger guy - it was the killed guy who started the fight upon the older returning to his seat as he was pissed that he was reported.
Why didn't he change seats?
Dementia combined with pent up anger and rage.
A false sense of righteousness -- that everyone would see things his way because he had a gun.
Why didn't he change seats?
Dementia combined with pent up anger and rage.
A false sense of righteousness -- that everyone would see things his way because he had a gun.
You make a lot of sense..
Who kills someone over bad manners?
The young father may have said something.. like .. hold on I am texting the babysitter.
Senseless murder...... makes me sick.
I am wondering if he went to his car to get his gun.. Why couldn't he wait a moment to speak with the theater Mgr?
