2aguy
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LA, NYC, and Chicago have a much lower murder rate than very pro-gun St Louis MO--and this with the big cities being much more densely populated !!Not this one, doesn't California have strict gun laws?What kind of a dumbass celebrates a school shooting?
Leftist Maniacs that's who, they celebrate all school shooters it gives them an orgasm because it means they can all take to Twitter demanding that all guns need confiscating etc.
very pro-gun MO has a murder rate almost twice as much as CA and NY
..and this without standard national laws
this is cross checked with STL being much higher on most dangerous cities lists--sometimes number 1
let me add that I love guns...wish I could afford a lot
1. Alaska
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 19.8
No permit required for purchase of a firearm.
2. Louisiana
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 19.3
No permit required for a purchase of a firearm.
3. Mississippi
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 17.8
No permit required for a purchase of a firearm
4. Alabama
The top 20 are red states.
- Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 17.6
No permit required for purchase of a firearm.
5. Arkansas
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.8
No permit required for purchase of a firearm.
6. Montana (TIE)
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.7
No permit required for a purchase of a firearm.
6. Wyoming (TIE)
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.7
No permit required for a purchase of a firearm.- 8. Oklahoma
Death by firearm per 100,000 population: 16.5
No permit required for a purchase of a firearm.
Death by gun: Top 20 states with highest rates
And the truth...
Would Cracking Down on Guns in the U.S. Really Reduce Violence? , by Robert VerBruggen, National Review
There is actually no simple correlation between states’ homicide rates and their gun-ownership rates or gun laws.
This has been shown numerous times, by different people, using different data sets.
A year ago, I took state gun-ownership levels reported by the Washington Post (based on a Centers for Disease Control survey) and compared them with murder rates from the FBI: no correlation.
The legal scholar Eugene Volokh has compared states’ gun laws (as rated by the anti-gun Brady Campaign) with their murder rates: no correlation.
David Freddoso of the Washington Examiner, a former National Review reporter, failed to find a correlation even between gun ownership in a state and gun murders specifically, an approach that sets aside the issue of whether gun availability has an effect on non-gun crime. (Guns can deter unarmed criminals, for instance, and criminals without guns may simply switch to other weapons.)
, I recently redid my analysis with a few tweaks. Instead of relying on a single year of survey data, I averaged three years. (The CDC survey, the best available for state-level numbers, included data on gun ownership only in 2001, 2002, and 2004. Those were the years I looked at.)
And instead of comparing CDC data with murder rates from a different agency, I relied on the CDC’s own estimates of death by assault in those years. Again: no correlation.
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Left-leaning media outlets, from Mother Jones to National Journal, get around this absence of correlation by reporting numbers on “gun deaths” rather than gun homicides or homicides in general.
More than 60 percent of gun deaths nationally are suicides, and places with higher gun ownership typically see a higher percentage of their suicides committed with a gun.
Focusing on the number of gun deaths practically guarantees a finding that guns and violence go together. While it may be true that public policy should also seek to reduce suicide, it is homicide — often a dramatic mass killing — that usually prompts the media and politicians to call for gun control, and it is homicide that most influences people as they consider supporting measures to take away their fellow citizens’ access to guns.
There are large gaps among the states when it comes to homicide, with rates ranging all the way from about two to twelve per 100,000 in 2013, the most recent year of data available from the CDC. These disparities show that it’s not just guns that cause the United States to have, on average, a higher rate of homicide than other developed countries do. Not only is there no correlation between gun ownership and overall homicide within a state, but there is a strong correlation between gun homicide and non-gun homicide — suggesting that they spring from similar causes, and that some states are simply more violent than others. A closer look at demographic and geographic patterns provides some clues as to why this is.