Shootings of Asian-Americans in Atlanta

Morality involves how we treat others.
modern lib culture treats women very badly

ghetto rap music is an example of that

and child pornography on the internet that leads to child sex trafficking across the southern border

there is no excuse for what Long did

but there are influences leading up to it
 
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The guy who did this was obviously mentally ill, and because solely of his skin color he was a white supremacist. Yeah getting tired of this shit.

What folks are getting tired of is because he is white "oh he is mentally ill", but had he been black that is just what we do.


I'm happy to discuss the mental illness of black criminals when they are mentally ill.


Too often they seem motivated by racial or political hate.

.....and whites don't. When someone black comics a crime you want to lump all black folks together, but when it is someone white that person I'd an individual.
That they are "mentally ill" or "having a bad day" or the victims deserved it or the shooter is secretly a lib.................excusing or deflecting.


1 Mentally ill is rarely a valid defense against responsibility for a crime. YOu have to be so far gone that you cannot distinguish right from wrong. It is unlikely that sexual addiction will justify such a defense.

2. "Having a bad day" was the cop talking like a regular person, not used to dealing with people like you. I'm sure if you told him he was "defending" the guy's actions, he would call you a fucking liar to your face.

3. No one has suggested that the women deserved to be shot.

4. Secretly a lib? That is not a defense but additional bad behavior.
 
Sex workers should carry firearms.
After an appropriate training course and licensing, naturally.


No reason for a license. Get as much training as you can afford in time and money...no mandate.
I have seen too many idiots with guns.


And yet with 600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people able to carry guns in public for self defense........accidental gun deaths have been going down, not up......and before the democrats decided to destroy the police, violent crime was going down, not up....
I have no problem with people carrying guns. I carry mine, of course I am trained, qualified and licensed. I am just not in favor of every idiot in America carrying one with no training, no knowledge of applicable law, and no certification. If your were ever on a unregulated shooting range, you wouldn't either. I've seen military people that didn't need to be carrying one for their own good and the good of everybody in the chow hall or near the sand barrel.


I agree....but......any licensing, will become a ban by other means.....the requirements will become impossible to meet for anyone who isn't rich or well connected...this is how they do it in Britain for the few hunting shotguns they allow people to own....as well as on the continent...

Sorry.....not supporting a restriction on a Right like that...
Got no problem with "right to keep and bear arms" and not debating what a "well regulated militia" is, but gun nuts do not believe in any intelligent regulation at all and that is wrong, makes no sense, gives responsible gun owners a bad name and does away with "well regulated" in any way shape form or fashion. Yesterday some sex addict shot up 3 different whorehouses in Georgia. Today some depressed nut ball from Texas brought all his guns to Washington and got arrested outside what he thought was the home of the Vice President. His mother said he had been depress and phoned to say he was in Washington and going to solve his problems. Would proper licensing solve all that? No. It might help the idiot factor though, having to at least sit a professionally instructed class, take tests of safety and operation before a certified instructor. I say, in your home for personal defense keep anything you want. I do and always have, but some people are a danger to themselves and everybody around them, and should not have them on the street. Everybody free to carry anything they want, just about anywhere they want is in no way well regulated, and your position is poor people may not be able to pay for training and getting a license doesn't make sense. These weapons today are not flint locks or even 6 shooter and this ain't the old west. Wait til you see the hill billy militia guys swaggering around on a range (if you can call it that) with mac 10s dangling with full clips until they line up and start shooting at sticks of dynamite on a berm 40 feet away and walking around drinking beer between rounds. People like them, with no respect for their fire power or safety and you who will indulge any carry anytime by anyone as some sacred right make us all look bad.


600 million guns in private hands......over 19.4 million people legally carry guns in public...

One guy broke the law.....all the laws regarding guns, and murdered people......

Meanwhile, the other 600 million guns were not used to murder anyone, and the 19.4 million people who carry their guns legally did not murder anyone.


You have no rational argument for what you want......we have a history of governments using massive regulations to prevent people who have the legal Right to own and carry guns from being able to own and carry guns...

You are wrong......that is just a fact.

And before the democrats decided to make war on our police.....27 years of more people owning and carrying guns and what was the impact on those things you fear?

49% reduction in gun murder.

75% reduction in gun crime.

72% reduction in violent crime in general.

You have no rational argument for the policies that we know will result in the government barring people from owning and carrying guns.

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


From the CDC.....

Accidental Gun deaths...

1999.....824
2000.....776
2001.....802
2002.....762
2003.....730
2004.....649
2005.....789
2006.....642
2007.....613
2008.....592
2009.....554
2010.....606
2011.....591
2012.....548
2013.....505
2014.....461
2015.....489
2016.....495
2017.....486
2018.....458
2019.....486
I am just not as paranoid as you over the 2nd amendment. The key statement was in your first line "people legally carry guns in public...". We just disagree about what should be considered legal and whether there should be any regulations regarding weapons at all. Your number 19.4 legally carrying in public sounds dubius and I could not locate a sources for it. Equilly or more dubius is the Washington Post number, I saw of 3 million. I suspect the number is in between those two. Here is an interesting number for you. In the year 1800 there were 5,308,483 counted in the census of the United State. Here is a fact to go along with it. As numbers climbed to the 330,000,000 plus of today it has become necessary for the common good to increase regulation in just about everything to avoid chaos and create a society that works for the whole population. In my opinion, rolling gun regulation back to 1790 standards is ludicrous, beyond rational thought.
If looking for how many weapons injuries, it seems everybody is more interested in weapons deaths annually. Available numbers are large, unless compared to the number legally carrying. I am confident the number of accidental shootings, including accidental deaths could be reduced with proper training. Unlike you, I feel it is worth the inconvenience to reduce weapons accidents, and training would (not might) reduce that number.
For all your, numbers, bits of info you try to string together to support your cause, I suspect you went to the trouble of getting your own carry permit and are (like myself) a licensed carry permit holder. It is not the people like you and I that concern me. We are unlikely to be involve in an accidental or illegal shooting situation, as all the permit holders, I know are very serious people, as opposed to the people I have personally witnessed. As someone trained not only on weapons, but in the field of safety itself, you will never be able to convince me, proper training does not make any complex operation safer for all concerned, and therefore unnecessary and certainly not regarding weapons. Trying to wrap the flag around your concept only works on the simple minded.

There are already regulations on gun ownership and it isn't doing any good. Putting more regulations on gun ownership doesn't seem like the answer.
The answer is to get the criminals off the street and use the death penalty more. Defunding the police forces certainly isn't a solution. That's just plain moronic.
 
Asian massage parlors. More hate WuFlu hate?
Hmmmmmm...Most crimes against Asians are done by Black Thugs.

That has been the history....though they usually go for older asians who are walking down some NYC city street aka the city of hate.

If they can't find an asian.....they look for a Jew. If they can't find a jew they will settle for some little old white lady....as a last resort they will attack an older black guy in a wheel chair.
Yes. It is a game they play called 'Sucka Punch". Any kid in a "Divirse" Public School knows that game from direct experience.

How do YOU know?
Direct experience.

Loons ^ love their myths! :rolleyes-41:

Since I have SEEN it happen ,I know it to be true. Usually it was five or six rotten savages buggin' one White Nerd. "Gimme some money ,Mtthafucka". After the kid gave it up ,one of those Thugs would punch him anyway. Cause Blacks are cowards. As well as savages. Their favorite method of fighting is "swarming".

I think you made that up :laugh2:
Why bother. Know what a racist really is? anyone who has been mugged ,robbed ,carjacked ,beaten ,or raped by Black Thugs.
So, what do you call white mass murderers?
Republicans

Bush lied us into Iraq. How many died? Thousands? Republican governor poisoned the people of Flint with LEAD. He is finally being charged criminally for it. 115 people they say died from it.

Trump didn't tell us corona was serious when he found out. Says he didn't want to panic us. 500,000 deaths later, he should have quaranteened us for 2 weeks and told us all to wear masks. Instead he mocked people who wore masks and told us he had it under control. Nothing to worry about.
Tell us which countries took COVID seriously?
HINT: None.
Actually there are countries who had zero cases before the vaccine Because they did what republicans refuse to do.
Tell me what Republicans refuse to do.
The 3 Black D communities in Nassau County went maskless for months on end and are still spiking and dying.
Wear masks and not host trump rallies
Your slogans are old and boring.
Tell that to all the Liberals who didn't wear masks and died.
Let's compare Biden rallies to Trump rallies. Oh yea, Biden didn't have rallies. He knew better.

So why is the USA the worst at Corona? Republicans.


Biden didn't have rallies because he was afraid how pathetically small they would be.
Yet he got more votes. So did Hillary actually but biden got them where they count. Five swing states.


Maybe. But if he did, imo, it was because of massive lying and censorship creating a false impression of Trump and motivating people to vote against him, and not for Biden.

The pathetic rallies would have shown that.
 
The guy who did this was obviously mentally ill, and because solely of his skin color he was a white supremacist. Yeah getting tired of this shit.

What folks are getting tired of is because he is white "oh he is mentally ill", but had he been black that is just what we do.


I'm happy to discuss the mental illness of black criminals when they are mentally ill.


Too often they seem motivated by racial or political hate.

.....and whites don't. When someone black comics a crime you want to lump all black folks together, but when it is someone white that person I'd an individual.

Black folks commit crimes at a higher rate than white folks. Look at the ANTIFA riots and the black on black murder rate.
 
Asian massage parlors. More hate WuFlu hate?
Hmmmmmm...Most crimes against Asians are done by Black Thugs.

That has been the history....though they usually go for older asians who are walking down some NYC city street aka the city of hate.

If they can't find an asian.....they look for a Jew. If they can't find a jew they will settle for some little old white lady....as a last resort they will attack an older black guy in a wheel chair.
Yes. It is a game they play called 'Sucka Punch". Any kid in a "Divirse" Public School knows that game from direct experience.

How do YOU know?
Direct experience.

Loons ^ love their myths! :rolleyes-41:

Since I have SEEN it happen ,I know it to be true. Usually it was five or six rotten savages buggin' one White Nerd. "Gimme some money ,Mtthafucka". After the kid gave it up ,one of those Thugs would punch him anyway. Cause Blacks are cowards. As well as savages. Their favorite method of fighting is "swarming".

I think you made that up :laugh2:
Why bother. Know what a racist really is? anyone who has been mugged ,robbed ,carjacked ,beaten ,or raped by Black Thugs.
So, what do you call white mass murderers?
Republicans

Bush lied us into Iraq. How many died? Thousands? Republican governor poisoned the people of Flint with LEAD. He is finally being charged criminally for it. 115 people they say died from it.

Trump didn't tell us corona was serious when he found out. Says he didn't want to panic us. 500,000 deaths later, he should have quaranteened us for 2 weeks and told us all to wear masks. Instead he mocked people who wore masks and told us he had it under control. Nothing to worry about.
Tell us which countries took COVID seriously?
HINT: None.
Actually there are countries who had zero cases before the vaccine Because they did what republicans refuse to do.
Tell me what Republicans refuse to do.
The 3 Black D communities in Nassau County went maskless for months on end and are still spiking and dying.
Wear masks and not host trump rallies
Your slogans are old and boring.
Tell that to all the Liberals who didn't wear masks and died.
Let's compare Biden rallies to Trump rallies. Oh yea, Biden didn't have rallies. He knew better.

So why is the USA the worst at Corona? Republicans.


Biden didn't have rallies because he was afraid how pathetically small they would be.
Yet he got more votes. So did Hillary actually but biden got them where they count. Five swing states.


Maybe. But if he did, imo, it was because of massive lying and censorship creating a false impression of Trump and motivating people to vote against him, and not for Biden.

The pathetic rallies would have shown that.
A lot of people voted for anyone but Hillary too. So what?
 
The guy who did this was obviously mentally ill, and because solely of his skin color he was a white supremacist. Yeah getting tired of this shit.

What folks are getting tired of is because he is white "oh he is mentally ill", but had he been black that is just what we do.


I'm happy to discuss the mental illness of black criminals when they are mentally ill.


Too often they seem motivated by racial or political hate.

.....and whites don't. When someone black comics a crime you want to lump all black folks together, but when it is someone white that person I'd an individual.
That they are "mentally ill" or "having a bad day" or the victims deserved it or the shooter is secretly a lib.................excusing or deflecting.

Owning a gun sure as hell didn't cause him to go on a killing spree.
 
Asian massage parlors. More hate WuFlu hate?
Hmmmmmm...Most crimes against Asians are done by Black Thugs.

That has been the history....though they usually go for older asians who are walking down some NYC city street aka the city of hate.

If they can't find an asian.....they look for a Jew. If they can't find a jew they will settle for some little old white lady....as a last resort they will attack an older black guy in a wheel chair.
Yes. It is a game they play called 'Sucka Punch". Any kid in a "Divirse" Public School knows that game from direct experience.

How do YOU know?
Direct experience.

Loons ^ love their myths! :rolleyes-41:

Since I have SEEN it happen ,I know it to be true. Usually it was five or six rotten savages buggin' one White Nerd. "Gimme some money ,Mtthafucka". After the kid gave it up ,one of those Thugs would punch him anyway. Cause Blacks are cowards. As well as savages. Their favorite method of fighting is "swarming".

I think you made that up :laugh2:
Why bother. Know what a racist really is? anyone who has been mugged ,robbed ,carjacked ,beaten ,or raped by Black Thugs.
So, what do you call white mass murderers?
Republicans

Bush lied us into Iraq. How many died? Thousands? Republican governor poisoned the people of Flint with LEAD. He is finally being charged criminally for it. 115 people they say died from it.

Trump didn't tell us corona was serious when he found out. Says he didn't want to panic us. 500,000 deaths later, he should have quaranteened us for 2 weeks and told us all to wear masks. Instead he mocked people who wore masks and told us he had it under control. Nothing to worry about.
Tell us which countries took COVID seriously?
HINT: None.
Actually there are countries who had zero cases before the vaccine Because they did what republicans refuse to do.
Tell me what Republicans refuse to do.
The 3 Black D communities in Nassau County went maskless for months on end and are still spiking and dying.
Wear masks and not host trump rallies
Your slogans are old and boring.
Tell that to all the Liberals who didn't wear masks and died.
Let's compare Biden rallies to Trump rallies. Oh yea, Biden didn't have rallies. He knew better.

So why is the USA the worst at Corona? Republicans.


Biden didn't have rallies because he was afraid how pathetically small they would be.
Yet he got more votes. So did Hillary actually but biden got them where they count. Five swing states.


Maybe. But if he did, imo, it was because of massive lying and censorship creating a false impression of Trump and motivating people to vote against him, and not for Biden.

The pathetic rallies would have shown that.
A lot of people voted for anyone but Hillary too. So what?


I made a point about his lack of real support. YOu asked me about it. That is "what".


What more do you want from me?
 
Asian massage parlors. More hate WuFlu hate?
Hmmmmmm...Most crimes against Asians are done by Black Thugs.

That has been the history....though they usually go for older asians who are walking down some NYC city street aka the city of hate.

If they can't find an asian.....they look for a Jew. If they can't find a jew they will settle for some little old white lady....as a last resort they will attack an older black guy in a wheel chair.
Yes. It is a game they play called 'Sucka Punch". Any kid in a "Divirse" Public School knows that game from direct experience.

How do YOU know?
Direct experience.

Loons ^ love their myths! :rolleyes-41:

Since I have SEEN it happen ,I know it to be true. Usually it was five or six rotten savages buggin' one White Nerd. "Gimme some money ,Mtthafucka". After the kid gave it up ,one of those Thugs would punch him anyway. Cause Blacks are cowards. As well as savages. Their favorite method of fighting is "swarming".

I think you made that up :laugh2:
Why bother. Know what a racist really is? anyone who has been mugged ,robbed ,carjacked ,beaten ,or raped by Black Thugs.
So, what do you call white mass murderers?
Republicans

Bush lied us into Iraq. How many died? Thousands? Republican governor poisoned the people of Flint with LEAD. He is finally being charged criminally for it. 115 people they say died from it.

Trump didn't tell us corona was serious when he found out. Says he didn't want to panic us. 500,000 deaths later, he should have quaranteened us for 2 weeks and told us all to wear masks. Instead he mocked people who wore masks and told us he had it under control. Nothing to worry about.
Tell us which countries took COVID seriously?
HINT: None.
Actually there are countries who had zero cases before the vaccine Because they did what republicans refuse to do.
Tell me what Republicans refuse to do.
The 3 Black D communities in Nassau County went maskless for months on end and are still spiking and dying.
Wear masks and not host trump rallies

You mean like this Trump rally last June?

Who cares about the size of the Rump Rallies? That's not how we decide presidents. I think a lot of folks were pissed off about the Super-Spreaders Donald irresponsibly hosted.

Always about ratings and crowd size with Trumpublicans. Dear Leader taught them well! ;)
Republicans didn’t like how things were looking in Florida in 2000 so they started what is now called the brooks brother riots. Similar to this years riot. And it worked. It got Florida to stop the recount and the supremes gave bush the win.

We need to know this as a society. Democrats feel we lost Florida because we didnt fight as hard as republicans did for it.

Well what should we do in 2014? Should democrats build an army to show up and riot if we don’t like the results? If we did what republicans do, it’d be a civil war.

Republicans would love this. Scary. Nazis. But maybe we need to form militias too. Be ready for next years midterms.
Hispanics own businesses and hate Democrats.
Exactly. So why do republicans claim we let mexicans in because they vote for us?
I should have been specific...
Cubans, Columbians, Brazilians and some others who have businesses hate Democrats.
When republicans are done using mexicans and gays and even blacks as political punching bags you’ll find many of them are conservative. Look at Bruce jenner

You really are blind, and stupid as well....the democrat party has been using racism as a weapon since it was founded by slave owners. The people beating and killing Asians in democrat party controlled cities are blacks......they are doing this because the democrat party has taken their futures away from them with the democrat party controlled education system...in the past racist democrats wouldn't let blacks into good schools, and now the racist democrats won't let blacks escape from horrible schools.......it is all about seperating people by race, and class, and then creating anger and hate among them...that is how the democrats gain and hold power.....
 
Asian massage parlors. More hate WuFlu hate?
Hmmmmmm...Most crimes against Asians are done by Black Thugs.

That has been the history....though they usually go for older asians who are walking down some NYC city street aka the city of hate.

If they can't find an asian.....they look for a Jew. If they can't find a jew they will settle for some little old white lady....as a last resort they will attack an older black guy in a wheel chair.
Yes. It is a game they play called 'Sucka Punch". Any kid in a "Divirse" Public School knows that game from direct experience.

How do YOU know?
Direct experience.

Loons ^ love their myths! :rolleyes-41:

Since I have SEEN it happen ,I know it to be true. Usually it was five or six rotten savages buggin' one White Nerd. "Gimme some money ,Mtthafucka". After the kid gave it up ,one of those Thugs would punch him anyway. Cause Blacks are cowards. As well as savages. Their favorite method of fighting is "swarming".

I think you made that up :laugh2:
Why bother. Know what a racist really is? anyone who has been mugged ,robbed ,carjacked ,beaten ,or raped by Black Thugs.
So, what do you call white mass murderers?
Republicans

Bush lied us into Iraq. How many died? Thousands? Republican governor poisoned the people of Flint with LEAD. He is finally being charged criminally for it. 115 people they say died from it.

Trump didn't tell us corona was serious when he found out. Says he didn't want to panic us. 500,000 deaths later, he should have quaranteened us for 2 weeks and told us all to wear masks. Instead he mocked people who wore masks and told us he had it under control. Nothing to worry about.
Tell us which countries took COVID seriously?
HINT: None.
Actually there are countries who had zero cases before the vaccine Because they did what republicans refuse to do.
Tell me what Republicans refuse to do.
The 3 Black D communities in Nassau County went maskless for months on end and are still spiking and dying.
Wear masks and not host trump rallies

You mean like this Trump rally last June?

Who cares about the size of the Rump Rallies? That's not how we decide presidents. I think a lot of folks were pissed off about the Super-Spreaders Donald irresponsibly hosted.

Always about ratings and crowd size with Trumpublicans. Dear Leader taught them well! ;)
Republicans didn’t like how things were looking in Florida in 2000 so they started what is now called the brooks brother riots. Similar to this years riot. And it worked. It got Florida to stop the recount and the supremes gave bush the win.

We need to know this as a society. Democrats feel we lost Florida because we didnt fight as hard as republicans did for it.

Well what should we do in 2014? Should democrats build an army to show up and riot if we don’t like the results? If we did what republicans do, it’d be a civil war.

Republicans would love this. Scary. Nazis. But maybe we need to form militias too. Be ready for next years midterms.
Hispanics own businesses and hate Democrats.
Exactly. So why do republicans claim we let mexicans in because they vote for us?
I should have been specific...
Cubans, Columbians, Brazilians and some others who have businesses hate Democrats.
When republicans are done using mexicans and gays and even blacks as political punching bags you’ll find many of them are conservative. Look at Bruce jenner

You really are blind, and stupid as well....the democrat party has been using racism as a weapon since it was founded by slave owners. The people beating and killing Asians in democrat party controlled cities are blacks......they are doing this because the democrat party has taken their futures away from them with the democrat party controlled education system...in the past racist democrats wouldn't let blacks into good schools, and now the racist democrats won't let blacks escape from horrible schools.......it is all about seperating people by race, and class, and then creating anger and hate among them...that is how the democrats gain and hold power.....
And Trump never played the race card. Nevah. LOL
 
Y'all are projecting your racism (and all of us have prejudices) onto this guy who had delusional obessions of sexual violence for asian women. Wierd, very wierd. Y'all might want to think about how you differ.
 
Morality involves how we treat others.
modern lib culture treats women very badly

ghetto rap music is an example of that

and child pornography on the internet that leads to child sex trafficking across the southern border

there is no excuse for what Long did

but there are influences leading up to it
Xians had problems with JK Rowling, so keep your baggage to your own obsessions. Thanks.
 
Morality involves how we treat others.
modern lib culture treats women very badly

ghetto rap music is an example of that

and child pornography on the internet that leads to child sex trafficking across the southern border

there is no excuse for what Long did

but there are influences leading up to it
Xians had problems with JK Rowling, so keep your baggage to your own obsessions. Thanks.

Jesus, our Mackey seems to be getting nuttier by the moment.
An intervention by Mr Potato Head may be needed. :lol:
 
Owning a gun sure as hell didn't cause him to go on a killing spree.
True. He didn't own a gun and then when he decided he went out and bought one and started murdering.

I knew a psychiatrist in Cincinnati who did that back when Ohio laws allowed you to walk into a store and carry the gun out the same day. He bought a gun, shot his wife to death, and they only put him away for three years. A lot of people were pretty indignant, including me ------- she was popular and well-liked. (Him, not so much!)
 
Owning a gun sure as hell didn't cause him to go on a killing spree.
True. He didn't own a gun and then when he decided he went out and bought one and started murdering.

I knew a psychiatrist in Cincinnati who did that back when Ohio laws allowed you to walk into a store and carry the gun out the same day. He bought a gun, shot his wife to death, and they only put him away for three years. A lot of people were pretty indignant, including me ------- she was popular and well-liked. (Him, not so much!)

He would have been just a nutty after a 10 day waiting period as he was Tuesday.
 
Has NOTHING to do with culture.
Of course this has to do with our culture

Thanks to our liberal culture he was obsessed by sex to the exclusion of anything else

and then he snapped


YOU experience our culture as liberal and sexually obsessed. Not everyone shares your POV.
It's a very odd stance for someone who worships the Pu**y grabber who was Epstein's BFF, isn't it?

It's a very odd stance for someone who worships the Pu**y grabber who was Epstein's BFF, isn't it?

Why bring up Clinton?



You mean where he banned him from Trump Properties while just about every single powerful democrat politician, actor and low life visited the rape island? Including bill clinton more than 20 times...often without Secret Service to see what was going on?

You moron.

He banned him over a property fight not because he was a pedophile.
 

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