Should Army National Guard Troops Shoot Illegal Border Crossers ?

[danielpalos]

Think we are just about getting to the point where the people take matters into their own hands. If the government cant fulfill it's most basic obligation, well that's why we have something called the 2nd Amendment. The people do the job the government wont.

Interesting. I like that idea, but I bet you'd bail on it pretty quickly. Freedom isn't exactly a Republican value.

they prefer to give women a hard time, with abortion laws.

 

[danielpalos]

What's deranged about helping people in need and seeking asylum? Now when USA invades other countries, watch out. We level entire countries on the pretext that maybe some dictator had wmds'. Totally none of our concern if we were minding our own business like the founders of this country advised us to do. These poor folks coming from central America for refuge.....now be good little obedient patriots and don't forget to rip them apart from any kids that may be traveling with them.

Here's what's deranged about it >>

Harms of Immigration

1. 1. Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).
   
   2. Wage reduction.
   
   3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).
   
   4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($138Billionyear).Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2016
   
2. 
   5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.
   
   6. Increased crime.
   
   7. Increased traffic congestion.
   
   8. Increased pollution.
   
   9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.
   
   10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.
   
   11. Overcrowding in government offices.
   
   12. Overcrowding in schools.
   
   13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.
   
   14. Cultural erosion.
   
   15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)
   
   16. Introduction of foreign diseases

17. Forest fires

18. Litter

19. Influx of terrorists

In addition, the allowance of illegal aliens, shows both a disrespect for our immigration law and to the people who immigrate here through the legal channels. Highly UNFAIR to them.

let's end our drug war to stop creating refugees.

 

[danielpalos]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

 

[Claudette]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

Nope. Not when illegals are trying to get to US. The illegals that cost we taxpayers billions every year.

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

Light 'em up and don't think twice about it.

 

[EasyPeasy]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Go Trump!

"With that said, Trump added, “If that doesn’t work out, we’re calling up the military, not the guard, we’re calling up the military and we’re going to have the military stationed. They’re not coming into this country, they might as well turn back.”


4k Troops have already been authorized. That's probably enough.

2,000 migrants return to Honduras, foreign ministry says

 

[RealDave]

If an American citizen were to shoot someone who crossed the border unofficially, what would be the legal consequences?

Murder charges.

 

[RealDave]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

 

[RealDave]

When I served in the Army National Guard, I was told the first duty of the Army National Guard is to do what the name "National Guard" clearly states > to guard the nation. And the first priority of that is to stop foreigners from invading the USA.

And the definition of invading

? > "to enter forcibly or hostilely" (Webster's New World College Dictionary, 5th ed.) Well, the caravaners already entered Mexico, from Guatemala, forcibly, and one could call it hostilely, being that it's disrespecting Mexico's immigration and border law. In doing so, the border crossers tore down fences and physical barriers.

There's no doubt that the thousands of people in this caravan have exactly that same thing in mind for the United States. The solution to stop them, according to my National Guard officers is to meet the force with greater force, and use whatever force is necessary to stop and repel the invaders.

Since an effective border wall is not yet in place or electrified fencing, barbed wire, etc, this would mean possibly shooting hundreds of the caravaners, gassing them at the border, or possibly even using artillery. The military has its job to do, the question is can (and should) we allow Honduras, Guatemala and other countries to invade us ?​

This is just what a Federal Government is suppose to do. China, Korea, Japan, Germany Russia and more have armed Military standing guard just for that reason. We for some reason don't. Why Mexico use to be friends, now they have a big problem us. We are the problem because we have gotten lazy on stopping the drug trade and the open border is just to easy for the criminals to cross. Most of the Mexicans are not criminals but have lost control of their Nation. We have to maintain the border or we might as well just close up shop and do away with the Constitution and start all over.

We have as drug trade because Amertcans want to buy them.

Quit blaming Mexico because of a problem the US created.

 

[EasyPeasy]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

 

[RealDave]

Trump needs to declare a state of emergency and martial law. This would effectively suspend the bill of rights. The military should be immediately deployed along the border to prevent invasion from mexico. All ports of entry to mexico gets closed. All federal officers should be put on capture and deport duty for those already here. Cities that declare themselves sanctuaries will have city officials arrested for obstruction of justice.

That's just to start.

The new Nazi Germany. Trump should be impeached immediately.

Any day now.

5,000 mostly men storming the border is an invasion.

Lying fuck.

About half seek asylum in Mexico, not the US.

Good thing Donald Trump was not the ruler of some land back when the caravan of Jews left Egypt.

 

[Claudette]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Funny how thousands are now "seeking asylum" you stupid shit.

 

[RealDave]

All I see is people are running from death. Hunger, danger for a better life and we have plenty of land, food and resources let's help them like jesus would. Americans can share their huge wasted food portions and massive empty lands. Stop being greedy...

FALSE! America does not have "plenty of land (habitable), food and resources. Fresh water is one resource, for example, that is only plentiful right after hurricanes and tropical storms. For the most part, in most areas of the country, fresh water is scarce, especially in the western states.

At Least 36 U.S. States Face Water Shortage

Much of western US facing severe water shortage - The Boston Globe

These 11 Cities May Completely Run Out Of Water Sooner Than You Think | HuffPost

Saudi Arabia is buying up farmland in US Southwest

Clean water crisis threatens US

You have to love it.
AS Trump lover who is all for lessening our clean wster protections, dumping fracking fluid in our rivers is saying we take take in refugees because we don't have enough clean water.

 

[RealDave]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

So there is no violence or such in Honduras,. You actually get dumber every day.

 

[Claudette]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

So there is no violence or such in Honduras,. You actually get dumber every day.

Who cares you dumb shit. Violence in Honduras doesn't mean thousands of Hondurans coming to this country.

You sure are tree stump dumb.

 

[EasyPeasy]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Never said it was dumbfuck... do try and keep up.

 

[EasyPeasy]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

So there is no violence or such in Honduras,. You actually get dumber every day.

Jesus you're stupid. Honduras is listed as one of the most violent countries in the world.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The National Guard would be a strong force on the border.

Shoot at a few trying to cross. The rest will get the damned message.

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

So there is no violence or such in Honduras,. You actually get dumber every day.

Whatever is going on in Honduras is irrelevant to the issue of a mob of thousands of people trying to forcibly enter the US without permission. Either we have open borders or they must be stopped by whatever means are necessary, including the use of lethal force if that is deemed necessary to stop them.

 

[RealDave]

don't care about natural rights?

No one has a natural night to enter the U.S. illegally.

Seeking asylum is not illegal you stupid shit

Of course not, fleeing poverty is not a valid reason for asylum however. If it were, we'd have billions trying to come here on an ongoing basis.

So there is no violence or such in Honduras,. You actually get dumber every day.

Whatever is going on in Honduras is irrelevant to the issue of a mob of thousands of people trying to forcibly enter the US without permission. Either we have open borders or they must be stopped by whatever means are necessary, including the use of lethal force if that is deemed necessary to stop them.

What is going on in Honduras is relevant according to US law.

I thought you assholes were all about "This is a country of laws" bullshit.