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Well, when you think about it we're celebrating a myth. We weren't friendly with the Indians. Those of you who had European ancestors here in those days are celebrating genocide over a couple hundred years.
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No, that isn't what we're celebrating. Thanksgiving is not a celebration of myth or genocide.Well, when you think about it we're celebrating a myth. We weren't friendly with the Indians. Those of you who had European ancestors here in those days are celebrating genocide over a couple hundred years.
Because the gawds are on our side.FACT: Atheists can do whatever they want.
One pass through the Southeast, and Desoto expedition left behind viruses that decimated the East Coast Indians before the first Englishmen arrived..Well, when you think about it we're celebrating a myth. We weren't friendly with the Indians. Those of you who had European ancestors here in those days are celebrating genocide over a couple hundred years.
Well, when you think about it we're celebrating a myth. We weren't friendly with the Indians. Those of you who had European ancestors here in those days are celebrating genocide over a couple hundred years.
I'm not a religious extremist. I'm just a regular everyday Catholic. There's nothing extreme about anything I believe in.We can certainly thank people like you for providing object lessons on the dangers of religious extremism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
LOL, if I need to get a life then so does everyone else on this forum.Thanksgiving's my least favorite holiday. Completely fabricated origin story covering up brutal treatment of the natives.
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As an effective atheist, prefer 'areligious' but it hasn't caught on yet, most holidays have secular versions. Christmas, Easter with Santa and Easter Bunny et al. Wanna "celebrate" the religious part or completely ignore it, you're probably still gonna get the day off so might as well. Plus, more cravenly for myself, if I get free candy or presents, I'll celebrate whatever you say.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
They can thank whoever they want.
Hell, you do not have to believe in a god to be thankful.
And, almost everyone likes turkey.
I think somebody needs to get a life, if their mind dwells on shit like this.
Just because somebody is atheist doesn't mean they don't believe in a higher power, that is called nihilism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
If you believe in a higher power, you are not an atheist.Just because somebody is atheist doesn't mean they don't believe in a higher power, that is called nihilism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
Atheists I know absolutely believe in a higher power, namely the force of nature, and I believe many of them are thankful for it. They simply don't personify it or worship it. But this non personified even non intelligent force of nature provides them with many things they both need and want.
That isn't correct, all atheism means is without theism. You can even be religious without theism.If you believe in a higher power, you are not an atheist.Just because somebody is atheist doesn't mean they don't believe in a higher power, that is called nihilism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
Atheists I know absolutely believe in a higher power, namely the force of nature, and I believe many of them are thankful for it. They simply don't personify it or worship it. But this non personified even non intelligent force of nature provides them with many things they both need and want.
I know what an atheist is. An atheist does not believe in God or any gods or any other supernatural entity or spirit. You are simply wrong. This is a ridiculous argument.That isn't correct, all atheism means is without theism. You can even be religious without theism.If you believe in a higher power, you are not an atheist.Just because somebody is atheist doesn't mean they don't believe in a higher power, that is called nihilism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
Atheists I know absolutely believe in a higher power, namely the force of nature, and I believe many of them are thankful for it. They simply don't personify it or worship it. But this non personified even non intelligent force of nature provides them with many things they both need and want.
There already is a word for not believing in anything, that is called nihilism. Nihilism and atheist aren't synonyms.
I am just a regular guy who's noticed that atheists do a lot of pretending just to get along with friends and family and co-workers.Who are you to say which holidays atheists can celebrate?
This is correct.I know what an atheist is. An atheist does not believe in God or any gods.That isn't correct, all atheism means is without theism. You can even be religious without theism.If you believe in a higher power, you are not an atheist.Just because somebody is atheist doesn't mean they don't believe in a higher power, that is called nihilism.Atheists can argue that Christmas and Easter have pagan roots, since the Early Church replaced pagan holidays with Christian holidays and adopted many of the same symbols....
But Thanksgiving has no pagan roots. It has been since the beginning a holiday about thanking God for the blessings we have in our life, as individuals, and as a nation.
You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Thanksgiving, but you do have to believe there is some divine power that is providing us with the things we need in life. So a Jew, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist, or a Shinto could celebrate Thanksgiving.
But an atheist has no one to thank. He thinks that everything good in life is entirely his own doing, or just a result of good luck or fortunate circumstances.
So let me ask you atheists, do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
And if you do, don't you see that it is rather hypocritical to celebrate a holiday to thank a divine power you don't believe in?
Atheists I know absolutely believe in a higher power, namely the force of nature, and I believe many of them are thankful for it. They simply don't personify it or worship it. But this non personified even non intelligent force of nature provides them with many things they both need and want.
There already is a word for not believing in anything, that is called nihilism. Nihilism and atheist aren't synonyms.
This isn't true. I know atheists that believe in ghosts and even an afterlife. They just don't worship a god. They are simply without theism. It seems you don't really know what an atheist is.or any other supernatural entity or spirit.
I am willing to accept that I am wrong but you are going to have to enlighten me as to what you are defining as theism.You are simply wrong.
Than why did you start this thread?This is a ridiculous argument.
Yes, there is. You "go along to get along" -- one atheist admits he pretends to pray on Thanksgiving. You celebrate Christmas, but secretly despise Christ. But you keep it to yourself, you don't want Mom and Dad to get upset, or any of your other relatives.I am just a regular guy who's noticed that atheists do a lot of pretending just to get along with friends and family and co-workers.Who are you to say which holidays atheists can celebrate?
There's no "pretending" involved.
Heaven forbid an atheist respect religious and love his religious family.Yes, there is. You "go along to get along" -- one atheist admits he pretends to pray on Thanksgiving. You celebrate Christmas, but secretly despise Christ. But you keep it to yourself, you don't want Mom and Dad to get upset, or any of your other relatives.I am just a regular guy who's noticed that atheists do a lot of pretending just to get along with friends and family and co-workers.Who are you to say which holidays atheists can celebrate?
There's no "pretending" involved.