Should Muller's investigation include Trump's financial history?

[bripat9643]

And here it is broken down pretty well...mueller is doing opposition research for the democrats for the 2020 race, and his hilary supporting lawyers will leak whatever they find to the press and the democrats...

Blog: What is Mueller investigating?

The purpose of a special counsel is to investigate if a federal crime was committed. There has been no charge or allegation that Trump or his campaign workers violated any federal law. The authorization by Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein to Mueller read:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

What are "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump?" "Links and Coordination" is not a specific charge of violation of federal law. It is not like the Russians and others paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 in speech fees to Bill Clinton in connection with Hillary approving the sale of 20% of our uranium by a Canadian company to the Russians.

The authorization given by Rosenstein is broad and vague, which allows Mueller to investigate anything he wants under the guise that it is a "link" or "coordination." Rosenstein should have given a specific authorization to investigate any Russian or other foreign efforts that affected the results of the election. Of course, we know there is no evidence that voting machines were hacked to change votes, or that thousands of Russians illegally came to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan to vote for Trump. There is no such evidence because these things did not occur.

It is basic criminal law that a criminal statute must be specific and clear to define the conduct that is declared illegal so that one knows that the conduct is illegal. Similarly, if one is being investigated, the investigators must be authorized to seek out some specific conduct that is illegal and have probable cause to believe that the target of the investigation is involved illegally. There is no such evidence here.

It appears that Mueller is using the "link and/or coordination" authority to investigate matters totally unrelated to whether the Russians affected the 2016 election. For example, according to the latest leaks, most likely from the Obama-Clinton attorneys on the Mueller staff:

Yep. and those leaks are illegal. Mewler's thugs belong behind iron bars.

 

[Divine Wind]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

So if the IRS audits me I can just say "no" and they have to respect my 5th amendment rights? Who knew!?

IRS? What do they have to do with this? Trump filed his taxes just like everyone else and the IRS has found that over decades of business, he is a lawful tax payer.

Are you PWD? Nice leap, but off the wrong cliff.

 

[Divine Wind]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

So if the IRS audits me I can just say "no" and they have to respect my 5th amendment rights? Who knew!?

No......this is an investigation looking for a crime...not an investigation into an actual crime..there is a huge difference. Transactions 8 years ago have no bearing on the 2016 election.....as Rush pointed out, mueller is essentially doing the opposition research for the democrat party for the 2020 election and he is now allowed to dig through every personal aspect of Trump's life with federal warrants and handcuffs.....the wet dream of the democrats going into 2020.....

As legal analysts have pointed out...there is no crime here...there should never have been a special council appointed since the actual statute dictates that an actual crime needs to have occurred to trigger the special council law....this is, in truth, a witch hunt and opposition research with federal arrest powers behind it.....

There was an actual crime committed in Whitewater......there is no crime in this Russia investigation, except for the unmasking of flynn and the leaks by comey......and since mueller is a good and close personal friend of comey, he should have recused himself from the beginning....

Bill Clinton; Whitewater then Monica. The investigation should go where it goes.

I'm good with "draining the swamp".

 

[Wry Catcher]

Q. Should Muller's investigation include Trump's financial history?

A. Follow the money is always a good plan.

 

[Wry Catcher]

And here it is broken down pretty well...mueller is doing opposition research for the democrats for the 2020 race, and his hilary supporting lawyers will leak whatever they find to the press and the democrats...

Blog: What is Mueller investigating?

The purpose of a special counsel is to investigate if a federal crime was committed. There has been no charge or allegation that Trump or his campaign workers violated any federal law. The authorization by Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein to Mueller read:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

What are "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump?" "Links and Coordination" is not a specific charge of violation of federal law. It is not like the Russians and others paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 in speech fees to Bill Clinton in connection with Hillary approving the sale of 20% of our uranium by a Canadian company to the Russians.

The authorization given by Rosenstein is broad and vague, which allows Mueller to investigate anything he wants under the guise that it is a "link" or "coordination." Rosenstein should have given a specific authorization to investigate any Russian or other foreign efforts that affected the results of the election. Of course, we know there is no evidence that voting machines were hacked to change votes, or that thousands of Russians illegally came to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan to vote for Trump. There is no such evidence because these things did not occur.

It is basic criminal law that a criminal statute must be specific and clear to define the conduct that is declared illegal so that one knows that the conduct is illegal. Similarly, if one is being investigated, the investigators must be authorized to seek out some specific conduct that is illegal and have probable cause to believe that the target of the investigation is involved illegally. There is no such evidence here.

It appears that Mueller is using the "link and/or coordination" authority to investigate matters totally unrelated to whether the Russians affected the 2016 election. For example, according to the latest leaks, most likely from the Obama-Clinton attorneys on the Mueller staff:

Yep. and those leaks are illegal. Mewler's thugs belong behind iron bars.

Who should be trust, bripat or 2aguy, or this man:

Who is special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller?

Is there any doubt on who should be trusted and which should be ignored?

 

[Wry Catcher]

No. It's time for this stupid witch hunt to end. Waste of time, money and energy. Trump won. Get over it and move on.

Denial, or desperation ^^^?

Probably both, anyone who continues to defend Trump&Co is not only a fool, they have crossed a line alien to Americana, i.e. truth, justice and the American way.

No one is above the law. To support quashing an investigation and call it a "witch hunt" before all the facts are in is criminal on its face, and in doing so in concert with others is a conspiracy.

 

[rightwinger]

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Not this crap again......

Conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election IS against federal election law....

Stomp your feet, throw your dirty diaper around, have a fit...BUT Donnie-baby is in legal trouble and he dragged Kushner and Manafort in the same pile of poop.

Wrong, taking money from foreign governments would be illegal, but simply receiving information is perfectly legal. Once again, all you got is a big nothing burger:

Hate to break it to you......but your "nothing burger" is actually a shit sandwich

 

[rightwinger]

And here it is broken down pretty well...mueller is doing opposition research for the democrats for the 2020 race, and his hilary supporting lawyers will leak whatever they find to the press and the democrats...

Blog: What is Mueller investigating?

The purpose of a special counsel is to investigate if a federal crime was committed. There has been no charge or allegation that Trump or his campaign workers violated any federal law. The authorization by Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein to Mueller read:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

What are "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump?" "Links and Coordination" is not a specific charge of violation of federal law. It is not like the Russians and others paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 in speech fees to Bill Clinton in connection with Hillary approving the sale of 20% of our uranium by a Canadian company to the Russians.

The authorization given by Rosenstein is broad and vague, which allows Mueller to investigate anything he wants under the guise that it is a "link" or "coordination." Rosenstein should have given a specific authorization to investigate any Russian or other foreign efforts that affected the results of the election. Of course, we know there is no evidence that voting machines were hacked to change votes, or that thousands of Russians illegally came to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan to vote for Trump. There is no such evidence because these things did not occur.

It is basic criminal law that a criminal statute must be specific and clear to define the conduct that is declared illegal so that one knows that the conduct is illegal. Similarly, if one is being investigated, the investigators must be authorized to seek out some specific conduct that is illegal and have probable cause to believe that the target of the investigation is involved illegally. There is no such evidence here.

It appears that Mueller is using the "link and/or coordination" authority to investigate matters totally unrelated to whether the Russians affected the 2016 election. For example, according to the latest leaks, most likely from the Obama-Clinton attorneys on the Mueller staff:

Yep. and those leaks are illegal. Mewler's thugs belong behind iron bars.

Who should be trust, bripat or 2aguy, or this man:

Who is special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller?

Is there any doubt on who should be trusted and which should be ignored?

Hard not to ignore finger boy

 

[NYcarbineer]

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Not this crap again......

Conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election IS against federal election law....

Stomp your feet, throw your dirty diaper around, have a fit...BUT Donnie-baby is in legal trouble and he dragged Kushner and Manafort in the same pile of poop.

Wrong, taking money from foreign governments would be illegal, but simply receiving information is perfectly legal. Once again, all you got is a big nothing burger:

Hate to break it to you......but your "nothing burger" is actually a shit sandwich

...minus the bread.

 

[initforme]

if one wants to run for office one forfeits their privacy. So yes search away although nothing will be found.

 

[bripat9643]

And here it is broken down pretty well...mueller is doing opposition research for the democrats for the 2020 race, and his hilary supporting lawyers will leak whatever they find to the press and the democrats...

Blog: What is Mueller investigating?

The purpose of a special counsel is to investigate if a federal crime was committed. There has been no charge or allegation that Trump or his campaign workers violated any federal law. The authorization by Assistant Attorney General Rosenstein to Mueller read:

(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

What are "links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump?" "Links and Coordination" is not a specific charge of violation of federal law. It is not like the Russians and others paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and $500,000 in speech fees to Bill Clinton in connection with Hillary approving the sale of 20% of our uranium by a Canadian company to the Russians.

The authorization given by Rosenstein is broad and vague, which allows Mueller to investigate anything he wants under the guise that it is a "link" or "coordination." Rosenstein should have given a specific authorization to investigate any Russian or other foreign efforts that affected the results of the election. Of course, we know there is no evidence that voting machines were hacked to change votes, or that thousands of Russians illegally came to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan to vote for Trump. There is no such evidence because these things did not occur.

It is basic criminal law that a criminal statute must be specific and clear to define the conduct that is declared illegal so that one knows that the conduct is illegal. Similarly, if one is being investigated, the investigators must be authorized to seek out some specific conduct that is illegal and have probable cause to believe that the target of the investigation is involved illegally. There is no such evidence here.

It appears that Mueller is using the "link and/or coordination" authority to investigate matters totally unrelated to whether the Russians affected the 2016 election. For example, according to the latest leaks, most likely from the Obama-Clinton attorneys on the Mueller staff:

Yep. and those leaks are illegal. Mewler's thugs belong behind iron bars.

Who should be trust, bripat or 2aguy, or this man:

Who is special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller?

Is there any doubt on who should be trusted and which should be ignored?

All partisan douche bags should trust Mewler. He is obviously determined to produce convictions for you, no matter what the evidence indicates.

 

[bripat9643]

if one wants to run for office one forfeits their privacy. So yes search away although nothing will be found.

You don't forfeit your Constitutional rights, moron. I know, you turds think Republicans have no Constitutional rights.

 

[bripat9643]

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Not this crap again......

Conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election IS against federal election law....

Stomp your feet, throw your dirty diaper around, have a fit...BUT Donnie-baby is in legal trouble and he dragged Kushner and Manafort in the same pile of poop.

Wrong, taking money from foreign governments would be illegal, but simply receiving information is perfectly legal. Once again, all you got is a big nothing burger:

Hate to break it to you......but your "nothing burger" is actually a shit sandwich

Ironic coming from someone with shit for brains.

 

[rightwinger]

Donald Jr's. e-mails are not evidence of any crime, moron. They are evidence of Americans exercising their Constitutional rights.

Not this crap again......

Conspiring with a foreign government to influence an election IS against federal election law....

Stomp your feet, throw your dirty diaper around, have a fit...BUT Donnie-baby is in legal trouble and he dragged Kushner and Manafort in the same pile of poop.

Wrong, taking money from foreign governments would be illegal, but simply receiving information is perfectly legal. Once again, all you got is a big nothing burger:

Hate to break it to you......but your "nothing burger" is actually a shit sandwich

Ironic coming from someone with shit for brains.

What a "witty" comeback

Befitting of an anarchist

 

[initforme]

It goes for ANY politician not just republicans...youwant the office then your financial situation is an open book.

 

[Dragonlady]

No. Trump says it is off limits and his 5th amendment rights should be observed.

So if the IRS audits me I can just say "no" and they have to respect my 5th amendment rights? Who knew!?

No......this is an investigation looking for a crime...not an investigation into an actual crime..there is a huge difference. Transactions 8 years ago have no bearing on the 2016 election.....as Rush pointed out, mueller is essentially doing the opposition research for the democrat party for the 2020 election and he is now allowed to dig through every personal aspect of Trump's life with federal warrants and handcuffs.....the wet dream of the democrats going into 2020.....

As legal analysts have pointed out...there is no crime here...there should never have been a special council appointed since the actual statute dictates that an actual crime needs to have occurred to trigger the special council law....this is, in truth, a witch hunt and opposition research with federal arrest powers behind it.....

There was an actual crime committed in Whitewater......there is no crime in this Russia investigation, except for the unmasking of flynn and the leaks by comey......and since mueller is a good and close personal friend of comey, he should have recused himself from the beginning....

You were all for the 7 Benghazi investigations which went on for 5 years and found nothing. My how your tune changes when it's a Republican being investigated.

The difference is that Trump and his minions really are up to no good.

 

[initforme]

Part of the reason this country's political system is such a disaster is because of all the big money involved. Voters should be able to see where it's coming from.

 

[Wry Catcher]

A lack of transparency by the government is never good for the American People.

 

[Nia88]

If the finances are relevant to the investigation then he has every right.

 

[nat4900]

If the finances are relevant to the investigation then he has every right.

The Trumpster would have to explain Why and How he gets millions in loans from a German bank that just had to pay regulators $600 MILLION for alleged Russian money laundering......

That should be "fun"......